When did Frank tell you this (I assume you mean Frank Grant, I don't pretend to be on first name terms with him)? The story that Pigg Wilson told certainly had the air of veracity about it.mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 18:21 Frank said it never happened. I sort of knew Frank when he was a fearsome man in the nineties. He admits in BM with our Terry he was dangerous.
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Great point and great way of putting it.Carlos wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 21:21 But we all have to have that conversation with ourselves sooner or later or else you're boring everyone down the pub and family get togethers about 'I couldda been playing for Tranmere Rovers/in the SAS/prop forward for Wales' I mean - it is all right telling other people I suppose (because people tend to think they're full of shite even if it is true) but when you need to believe it yourself? That's when the problems start.
After 15 years of fannying around in boxing gyms - a few months of training, lose interest, year off, rinse and repeat - I finally had a white collar fight last year (being too old and crap, frankly, for any proper amateur gym). I won, and won well, but any illusions I might have had that I ever could have cut it at any decent level were (literally) bashed out of me in the ten weeks of training leading up to it. A great experience and all that, but that clarity (that closure?) was the most valuable thing, I think.
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Mickey, Terry has asked me to let you know in between winding Eddie Hearn up he’s caught up with Frank and that story as you say is false.mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 18:21 Frank said it never happened. I sort of knew Frank when he was a fearsome man in the nineties. He admits in BM with our Terry he was dangerous.
Shame we can’t have a corona virus amnesty and get these posters back.
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I'm gutted that it's not true.Dirk Kelly wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 16:13Mickey, Terry has asked me to let you know in between winding Eddie Hearn up he’s caught up with Frank and that story as you say is false.mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 18:21 Frank said it never happened. I sort of knew Frank when he was a fearsome man in the nineties. He admits in BM with our Terry he was dangerous.
Shame we can’t have a corona virus amnesty and get these posters back.
I might keep it going though, like Tesco Joe!
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Big difference between , being able to punch your weight , and being a ko puncher , 99 out of 100 people walk in a gym and CANNOT punch there weight ,, some hit hard but can then be taught to hit harder ,,, Occasionaly you get a guy walks in and the trainer goes wow , this kid can bang , and its just natural , but were not talking about your Mike Tysons , were talking average boxer ,, , Now i would be willing to bet Big John can punch his weight , its so natural for him , When boxing, has you learn,, and start to hit harder , your sparring partners , and opponents get better with you , so you don't always see knockouts all the time , . ..margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 19:57 John Fury 1 stoppage in 13 fights (a guy retiring on a shoulder injury), big John could punch his big weight all right
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Ya, or he could just be a big guy with featherfists, hence 1 stoppage (a shoulder injury) in 13 fights. Just as some guys can punch some can't. His record shows very little power, and with big John there is very little to go on apart from that. He's from a family of arm punching slappers too, not sure if that's him or not, again, haven't seen him fight.
I'm sure being a pro big John was far more than Micky Theo ever was, but age has a way of leveling out things like that and the more years on the more that can change. Personally I am so hyped for this, let's get it live and exclusive only on Sky Sports
I'm sure being a pro big John was far more than Micky Theo ever was, but age has a way of leveling out things like that and the more years on the more that can change. Personally I am so hyped for this, let's get it live and exclusive only on Sky Sports
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What coneye is telling you is that this 1 KO came against experienced pros who know how to move around a ring and where to position themselves - Theo is a NOT a professional boxer - if Fury hits him he will hurt him because like it has been said already, he doesn't know how to defend properly and probably doesn't know how to block shots and if he does - Fury's punches will go straight through them anyway if he doesn't know how to move around - more than likely Fury will get the second KO of his career but they're better both staying in bed and enjoying their lives - which is what I am doing.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 02:05 Ya, or he could just be a big guy with featherfists, hence 1 stoppage (a shoulder injury) in 13 fights. Just as some guys can punch some can't. His record shows very little power, and with big John there is very little to go on apart from that. He's from a family of arm punching slappers too, not sure if that's him or not, again, haven't seen him fight.
I'm sure being a pro big John was far more than Micky Theo ever was, but age has a way of leveling out things like that and the more years on the more that can change. Personally I am so hyped for this, let's get it live and exclusive only on Sky Sports![]()
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Good on yer - at least you got your answers out of it and you did it and it was a great experience!dookus wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 15:44Great point and great way of putting it.Carlos wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 21:21 But we all have to have that conversation with ourselves sooner or later or else you're boring everyone down the pub and family get togethers about 'I couldda been playing for Tranmere Rovers/in the SAS/prop forward for Wales' I mean - it is all right telling other people I suppose (because people tend to think they're full of shite even if it is true) but when you need to believe it yourself? That's when the problems start.
After 15 years of fannying around in boxing gyms - a few months of training, lose interest, year off, rinse and repeat - I finally had a white collar fight last year (being too old and crap, frankly, for any proper amateur gym). I won, and won well, but any illusions I might have had that I ever could have cut it at any decent level were (literally) bashed out of me in the ten weeks of training leading up to it. A great experience and all that, but that clarity (that closure?) was the most valuable thing, I think.
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Shhhh wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 08:28Yeah I was always one of those idiots that believed those folk. I never understood until recently how many people are bare arsed liarsCarlos wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 21:21
But we all have to have that conversation with ourselves sooner or later or else you're boring everyone down the pub and family get togethers about 'I couldda been playing for Tranmere Rovers/in the SAS/prop forward for Wales' I mean - it is all right telling other people I suppose (because people tend to think they're full of shite even if it is true) but when you need to believe it yourself? That's when the problems start.
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I give everyone the benefit of the doubt - except for this big fat lump in Telford who told me he was in the Gulf war with the SAS (his parent regiment was meant to be the Sherwood Foresters so I knew it was bullshite
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He was a regular in Casa Loco in Leeds in those days, so yes, I knew him a little bit.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 12:13When did Frank tell you this (I assume you mean Frank Grant, I don't pretend to be on first name terms with him)? The story that Pigg Wilson told certainly had the air of veracity about it.mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 18:21 Frank said it never happened. I sort of knew Frank when he was a fearsome man in the nineties. He admits in BM with our Terry he was dangerous.
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Well one of the familly of slappers , went and beat , a long reigning champion ,, and last i heard he stopped a guy who was un beaten , and looking to be proclaimed the hardest puncher of all time ,, and i can tell you now , he never commanded there respect by having featherfist ,,, Some guys just don't pocess ko power but will hurt you with most everything they throw .. This one will not even come to that ,,, Even against a young man who was inexperienced John would do OK , theres a lot too it ,,, This guy will not land a punch on john , UNLESS its ochestrated ,,, , Only way i would watch if its on U tube a few days after ... Like someone else said , i'd rather watch Shane , and that other fella , named himself after Dillan Whytemargaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 02:05 Ya, or he could just be a big guy with featherfists, hence 1 stoppage (a shoulder injury) in 13 fights. Just as some guys can punch some can't. His record shows very little power, and with big John there is very little to go on apart from that. He's from a family of arm punching slappers too, not sure if that's him or not, again, haven't seen him fight.
I'm sure being a pro big John was far more than Micky Theo ever was, but age has a way of leveling out things like that and the more years on the more that can change. Personally I am so hyped for this, let's get it live and exclusive only on Sky Sports![]()
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Ahahahahaha, well I value my sightCarlos wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 04:23Good on yer - at least you got your answers out of it and you did it and it was a great experience!dookus wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 15:44 Great point and great way of putting it.
After 15 years of fannying around in boxing gyms - a few months of training, lose interest, year off, rinse and repeat - I finally had a white collar fight last year (being too old and crap, frankly, for any proper amateur gym). I won, and won well, but any illusions I might have had that I ever could have cut it at any decent level were (literally) bashed out of me in the ten weeks of training leading up to it. A great experience and all that, but that clarity (that closure?) was the most valuable thing, I think.You didn't go and challenge John Fury to an all out brawl!
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Dean Whyte, or whatever he’s called, looks a handful on the pads and Big Shane is out of shape.
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Big John, Big Shane? Where's your self-respect? You sound like a sycophant.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 08:14 Dean Whyte, or whatever he’s called, looks a handful on the pads and Big Shane is out of shape.
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I didn't ask if you had once nodded your head at him in a Leeds nightclub. I asked when did he tell you Pigg Wilson's story was untrue?mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 04:33He was a regular in Casa Loco in Leeds in those days, so yes, I knew him a little bit.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 12:13
When did Frank tell you this (I assume you mean Frank Grant, I don't pretend to be on first name terms with him)? The story that Pigg Wilson told certainly had the air of veracity about it.
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Can someone please tell me who is Dean Whyte? And what is the story with Shane Fury?Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:42Big John, Big Shane? Where's your self-respect? You sound like a sycophant.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 08:14 Dean Whyte, or whatever he’s called, looks a handful on the pads and Big Shane is out of shape.
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Good job he wasn't on the balcony thenCarlos wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 04:29![]()
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt - except for this big fat lump in Telford who told me he was in the Gulf war with the SAS (his parent regiment was meant to be the Sherwood Foresters so I knew it was bullshite) and was in Iraq behind enemy lines - he must have been 25 stone - the Iraqis - even the blind ones with no sense of smell would have spotted this fat lump - I wouldn't have said any of this to his face - he was like 6ft 4ins and worked on the doors somewhere in the Midlands - best thing to do is go 'yeah, yeah'
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Dillian Whyte was doing a video with his 'brother' Dean Whyte (he's not really his brother but I don't really know much about all of that)and Dil dropped his brother in it I think joking that he could beat Shane Fury. 'Dean' or whatever his name is, is about 6'7 and gives it the hardman a bit, I think then said he was up for it. Cue Shane accepting the fight in a very un-John like fashion calmly saying if he wanted it he could have it. Dean did a video where he did a bit of bit of back peddling saying he wouldn't do a 'straightener' as he was an MMA guy and not a boxer or something like that. Excited schoolgirl Kugan Cassius continued to try and build the feud but by then both brothers stopped biting.Muttley wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:57Can someone please tell me who is Dean Whyte? And what is the story with Shane Fury?Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:42
Big John, Big Shane? Where's your self-respect? You sound like a sycophant.
That sort of sums it up, I think?
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you just summed up about 80% of his 'career'.clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 10:51 Excited schoolgirl Kugan Cassius continued to try and build the feud
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Thanks for the info. So basically Kugan Cassius is a S--t stirer?clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 10:51Dillian Whyte was doing a video with his 'brother' Dean Whyte (he's not really his brother but I don't really know much about all of that)and Dil dropped his brother in it I think joking that he could beat Shane Fury. 'Dean' or whatever his name is, is about 6'7 and gives it the hardman a bit, I think then said he was up for it. Cue Shane accepting the fight in a very un-John like fashion calmly saying if he wanted it he could have it. Dean did a video where he did a bit of bit of back peddling saying he wouldn't do a 'straightener' as he was an MMA guy and not a boxer or something like that. Excited schoolgirl Kugan Cassius continued to try and build the feud but by then both brothers stopped biting.
That sort of sums it up, I think?
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You could also say he was a wanker.Muttley wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 11:30Thanks for the info. So basically Kugan Cassius is a S--t stirer?clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 10:51
Dillian Whyte was doing a video with his 'brother' Dean Whyte (he's not really his brother but I don't really know much about all of that)and Dil dropped his brother in it I think joking that he could beat Shane Fury. 'Dean' or whatever his name is, is about 6'7 and gives it the hardman a bit, I think then said he was up for it. Cue Shane accepting the fight in a very un-John like fashion calmly saying if he wanted it he could have it. Dean did a video where he did a bit of bit of back peddling saying he wouldn't do a 'straightener' as he was an MMA guy and not a boxer or something like that. Excited schoolgirl Kugan Cassius continued to try and build the feud but by then both brothers stopped biting.
That sort of sums it up, I think?
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Re: Big John Fury called out
I did a bit more than nod at him. If you don’t believe me, believe Terry.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:54I didn't ask if you had once nodded your head at him in a Leeds nightclub. I asked when did he tell you Pigg Wilson's story was untrue?mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 04:33
He was a regular in Casa Loco in Leeds in those days, so yes, I knew him a little bit.
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Did you say "Hello Frank" to him as well? Just answer the question, please.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 12:34I did a bit more than nod at him. If you don’t believe me, believe Terry.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:54
I didn't ask if you had once nodded your head at him in a Leeds nightclub. I asked when did he tell you Pigg Wilson's story was untrue?
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As Mickey said, just ask Terry.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 12:45Did you say "Hello Frank" to him as well? Just answer the question, please.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 12:34
I did a bit more than nod at him. If you don’t believe me, believe Terry.