There's only one thing I dislike about this forum and that's your ramblings, now that's a fact and it's been checked.
if they went of topic that's up to them, did you need to take the bait and continue going off on a tangent?
Fact checking is a great thing, regarding news and things that actually matter in life, blah... blah... blah, blah, blahhhhh......
You were wrong to blame me for going off-topic and almost everybody from this forum was wrong in claiming that size didn’t matter in the heavyweight division and that smaller heavyweights, those weighing less than 220lbs, regularly achieved success during world title fights.
Your opinion doesn’t matter to me, since you obviously make no effort whatsoever to ensure it reflects reality.
And that’s the reason you dislike those that speak the truth, it's because they’re always proving you wrong.
The next time it rains in your geographical region, please don’t forget to blame me for that and share another little rant about it with the forum!!!
And the next time you’re suffering from a severe does of diarrhoea, you may as well assume I’m the root cause for that as well!
It says a lot that only your alternative accounts and a few others actually agree with what you say, doesn't that tell you that your opinion is flawed.
I could give you facts and statistics that would make iniesta look like a bang average footballer. Those stats are irrefutable but those stats don't tell the true story.
For someone who posts so much I'm yet to actually see you post any analysis or thoughts on a fight, maybe you could give us your thoughts on the upcoming whyte vs povetkin fight.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 22:54You always think you're telling people things they don't know. You're not.
You're just an insufferable prick who won't ever admit he's not right about something.
People only choose to challenge me on the facts I supply and I can’t be wrong about those, because these are things that are out of my control and exist regardless of opinions.
If I say it’s extremely rare for small heavyweights, those weighing less than 220lbs, to achieve success in world title fights over the last twenty years, which is a conclusion supported by a comprehensive set of stats that are impossible to refute, then why should I admit to being proven wrong?
The only counter argument I tend to receive are from people either insulting me, or from those dishonest souls, such as yourself, repeatedly pretending I hold a stance I’ve never even articulated.
For instance, I’ve told you at least a dozen times that size isn’t the be-all-and-end-all… and yet you keep pretending otherwise, by repeatedly claiming I believe that it’s the only thing that matters.
And you want me to admit to being proven wrong about an opinion only YOU have conveyed?
Am I supposed to apologise for YOUR words now? Should I admit to be proven WRONG about YOUR opinions?
And what are YOU going to do now? Pretend that I’m lying, even though I can quote YOUROWN words proving that YOU have done this again-and-again?
Have you ever wondered the reason for me repeatedly asking others to quote MY actual words during debates? I'll let you think about that.
I assume you want people to quote you because you love hearing yourself talk.
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 01 Jul 2020, 11:48
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 10:03
Pacquiao was. afraid of needles
Mayweather got a tue and wouldnt vada test
Bernard Hopkins went from shot against taylor to putting on muscle and fighting well into his 40 (avoided vada)
Im not a fan but the only top fighter i look at and think they were clean is wilder
Nonito Donaire always made a point of being tested more than the average boxer. He's probably clean.
Nonito definitely clean. I think most are clean, and the suspicious ones are suspicious for one reason or another. I don’t see any reason to suspect GGG. Is there any suspicion surrounding Loma that I’m not aware of?
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 07:20
by cormack
wankstain miller is finished now
nobody will touch him with a ten foot pole
Nonito definitely clean. I think most are clean, and the suspicious ones are suspicious for one reason or another. I don’t see any reason to suspect GGG. Is there any suspicion surrounding Loma that I’m not aware of?
Unfortunately with the current testing net so full of gaping holes it seems as if you have to be either lax or unfortunate to get caught. The top boxers, surrounded by nutritionists and medical experts simply cannot fail a test without complicity.
There's some good information on the myriad ways of cheating on Jonathan Leir's channel here.
I've no doubt that Nonito Donaire was clean.
But that's about where it ends.
The one's not caught should be under suspicion.
The one's already caught we know about. Both Fury's, Whyte, Povetkin, Ortiz, Browne, Miller etc
The one's caught more than once should not be competing.
Miller denies any wrongdoing, again, and will probably be given the benefit of the doubt, again.
So why should he care? Why should the sport care, as long as it doesn't affect revenue streams?
He took a gamble it didn't pay off this time, there will always be another time.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 10:03
Mayweather got a tue and wouldnt vada test
Floyd Mayweather Jr. insisted on his opponents being PED testing by USADA before the sports’ governing bodies made it mandatory (at a time when nearly all fighters weren’t being tested) and prior to VADA’s conception in 2011.
Also, Thomas Hauser’s TUE allegations contained so many factual inaccuracies, that it compelled USADA to publish a massive rebuttal that the controversial journalist didn’t attempt to refute.
And let’s not forget that Hauser was employed by HBO when he wrote that article, with Money May contracted to their biggest rivals Showtime.
Hauser and De La Hoya, whom both worked with or for HBO, had a penchant and strong reputation for fabricating controversies during Mayweather’s fight weeks.
And to be fair, Floyd often returned fire, by engaging in the very same dubious tactics whenever HBO were staging PPV’s.
Anything to steal the limelight and diminish buyrates for rival PPV’s.
Anyway, if anyone wants to criticise Floyd using USADA instead of VADA, they need to remember that the WBC and WBA boxing programs only began and became mandatory after Mayweather Jr. had retired (after his final competitive bout).
Mayweather insisted on usada over vada as did al haymon fighters. There was a reason for that.
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 17:16
by H8Usernames
This antidoping nonsense should end. Steroids have been used for ages in this sport and with these new testing requirements its just becoming more of a game with flushing, masking agents, selecting doping organisations, getting exemptions, hiring good lawyers and next it will be bribing these doping officers. What ever happened to one guy just punching another one in his face?
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:12
by Enlightened-One
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 15:56
He refuted their rebuttal
If you actually take the time to read this lengthy USADA rebuttal, you'd surely realise Hauser didn't attempt to defend himself against the errors they highlighted about his derogatory claims.
And Mayweather used USADA long before VADA existed when he and his opponents didn't even need to be tested.
There was a reason for that.
Even Manny Pacquiao rejected a $40m payday against Mayweather Jr. due to his refusal to be randomly tested by VADA.
There was a reason for that too.
Floyd Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley, a man that admitted to a jury to using PED's, undergo drug testing by USADA, long before VADA even existed and when testing was rare in the sport.
And there has to be another reason for that too.
Do you see what I just did there?
I could do this all day.
By the way...
Thomas Hauser published his article that was originally responsible for the alleged “intravenous vitamin injections” Money May scandal during the fight-week of the Mayweather-Berto bout... which was simply a strategially-timed "fake news" ploy employed by HBO to undermine the commercial success of a Showtime PPV event.
Guess who Thomas Hauser worked for at the time?
Think I'm wrong? Check the dates.
Come on Jeff, please respond? Let me see you defend Hauser, because I've far more things up my sleeve.
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:23
by margaret thatcher
Oh sh!t! It's on again! EO gunning for glorious victory, he can issue these challenges all day
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:24
by margaret thatcher
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 15:56
He refuted their rebuttal
Mayweather insisted on usada over vada as did al haymon fighters. There was a reason for that.
Looks like an attempted refutation there from Tommy, gotta say, my ruling is that he at least attempted it ,, and thus to say he never attempted to refute the rebuttal is inaccurate and not in correspondence with the facts of the matter. The ruling is final
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:26
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 19:23
Oh sh!t! It's on again! EO gunning for glorious victory, he can issue these challenges all day
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:27
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 19:23
Oh sh!t! It's on again! EO gunning for glorious victory, he can issue these challenges all day
He won't respond, because he can't... unless he decides to lie and make stuff up.
I hope he tries though.
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:28
by oogiebe
wasn't this thread about Jarrell Miller?
Re: Jarrell Miller Fails Another PED Test?
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 19:29
by Enlightened-One
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 19:28
wasn't this thread about Jarrell Miller?
I didn't change the topic. Others did.
I'm not taking the blame if others want to digress.
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 19:28
wasn't this thread about Jarrell Miller?
I didn't change the topic. Others did.
I'm not taking the blame if others want to digress.
I'm still waiting for your essay on the fight between whyte vs povetkin, seen as though your knowledge is indisputable I would like to hear your analysis, it would make me more confident when I place a bet.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 19:29
I didn't change the topic. Others did.
I'm not taking the blame if others want to digress.
I'm still waiting for your essay on the fight between whyte vs povetkin, seen as though your knowledge is indisputable I would like to hear your analysis, it would make me more confident when I place a bet.
I'm still waiting for your essay on the fight between whyte vs povetkin, seen as though your knowledge is indisputable I would like to hear your analysis, it would make me more confident when I place a bet.
Ok e.o light I apologise