Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:20
He's so much fun I can hardly stand it. I call him the gift that keeps on giving. He never gives up!
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Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:25
Quote my words where I stated it as being a fact, not opinion?punchoutsb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:09 You made the claim...
...that the two minute round is the main culprit preventing stoppages in women's boxing. You stated that as fact, not as your opinion,Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jul 2020, 03:59 The two minute round rule isn't the fault of the competitors. And this is the main culprit preventing stoppages.
I noticed you didn’t, so you obviously can’t.
You do realise by pretending I used the word “fact” about that sentence you quoted is a blatant lie, because you can’t even quote my words saying this.
I think you need to be honest and either admit to lying or quit the forum.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:30
People disprove you all the time however you fail to acknowledge it. There would be no point in anyone rehashing past arguments given this. There's only one other avenue, ridicule. You are the joke of the boxrec forum. You've done this to yourself. Any professional connections or impression you were trying to make to establish a career as a boxing journalist have been scuppered by your own behaviour.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:19If I lied as often as people claimed, then surely it should be easy to prove it?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:11 Challenges going out left , right, and centre. Dudes getting called out ervrywhere.
Men down in abundance
However, people are side-stepping my challenge, by either ignoring it (i.e. Riddick Blowe) or resorting to insults, because it’s clear they can’t prove things that never once occurred in reality.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:32
...and THAT ends That!lazboy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:30People disprove you all the time however you fail to acknowledge it. There would be no point in anyone rehashing past arguments given this. There's only one other avenue, ridicule. You are the joke of the boxrec forum. You've done this to yourself. Any professional connections or impression you were trying to make to establish a career as a boxing journalist Ibeen scuppered by your own behaviour.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:19If I lied as often as people claimed, then surely it should be easy to prove it?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:11 Challenges going out left , right, and centre. Dudes getting called out ervrywhere.
Men down in abundance
However, people are side-stepping my challenge, by either ignoring it (i.e. Riddick Blowe) or resorting to insults, because it’s clear they can’t prove things that never once occurred in reality.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:33
Your presence in the forum doesn't concern me. I have a life.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:40Words from a 'man' who has consistently lied about the things I’ve said.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:35Words from a 'man' who has never had a woman. Sifting through your posting history would be much worse than eating a gun.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:00 Every single person who claims I’ve said or claimed something I clearly haven’t, will be asked to accept the same challenge.
If they don’t like me and want me to permanently leave the forum, then if I think they’re lying, I’ll ask then to quote my words... and if they can, then consider me gone.
But if they can’t, they should either admit to lying or quit the forum.
Too many people have lied about me and it’s time for them to walk the talk or admit to being liars.
And it’s abundantly clear that Riddick Blowe is terrified to accept the challenge, hence his silence.
You have a golden opportunity to see me quit the forum,
Why don’t you take it by quoting my words?
You won’t, because you’re not stupid enough to attempt to prove things that NEVER happened!
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:33
So you're saying you made a claim that wasn't factually based on anything? How can I trust you going forward if your posts aren't based on some sort of verifiable facts?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:25Quote my words where I stated it as being a fact, not opinion?punchoutsb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:09 You made the claim...
...that the two minute round is the main culprit preventing stoppages in women's boxing. You stated that as fact, not as your opinion,Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jul 2020, 03:59 The two minute round rule isn't the fault of the competitors. And this is the main culprit preventing stoppages.
I noticed you didn’t, so you obviously can’t.
You do realise by pretending I used the word “fact” about that sentence you quoted is a blatant lie, because you can’t even quote my words saying this.
I think you need to be honest and either admit to lying or quit the forum.
If you knew you were just making false claims for the fun of it you really should have started the sentence with something like "In my own uneducated opinion..." or "According to me, my wife, and a couple of other women I know..." to avoid confusion for those of us who were unaware you were just posting to use up bandwidth.
I'm very disappointed in you.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:35
I'm not positive that was part of it. It would have been the biggest card ever.Tony1244 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:43
He went to jail but Don King didn't, go figure. I remember Cooney wanted him to be his promoter, but I don't remember the card he was going to put on. If you do, I'd be curious to hear it.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 20:42
Quick Google.
Cooney/Norton
Saad/mustafa
Kenty/arguello
Hearns/benitez
Gomez/Ayala
I'm way off with my memory here.
Cooney/Norton
Saad/mustafa
Kenty/arguello
Hearns/benitez
Gomez/Ayala
I'm way off with my memory here.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 00:09
It's funny that size gets so much play. I would find it much more compelling if it could be shown that fighters were getting faster, or were better conditioned in terms of punch output throughout fights, or even if it could somehow be demonstrated that they took punches better or even actually threw punches with more force. Not to mention, if it could ever really be shown that fighters were actually getting better in terms of boxing intellect, skills and technique.
But, all we ever get is he is bigger and stronger, it's not nothing, but it's not exactly the kind of thing that makes me think, there is no way these guys could lose then.
But, all we ever get is he is bigger and stronger, it's not nothing, but it's not exactly the kind of thing that makes me think, there is no way these guys could lose then.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 00:35
You don’t remember the details of me claiming that “size is the only thing that matters” because those were words I’ve never written.Tony1244 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:51Your assumption would be incorrect. You have pages of implications overestimating weight. I don't remember the details but you favored Ruiz over some all time great on account of his being 50 pounds overweight.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 19:46I’m assuming you agree that Riddick Blowe lied, because if you feel he didn’t, you wouldn’t have side-stepped my response to your comment on my post?
You previously admitted that I’d never written those words, so there was once a point in time when you were being honest.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 00:46
Like I said before, I am able to justify my opinion about two minute rounds being used as a safety measure in women’s boxing, by quoting the claims made by the WBC (based on their own research).punchoutsb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:33So you're saying you made a claim that wasn't factually based on anything? How can I trust you going forward if your posts aren't based on some sort of verifiable facts?
I can also share the opinions of several high-profile female boxers, such as Katie Taylor, who are against the use of two-minute rounds.
I can also quote the words of media articles who even suggested using two minute rounds as a safety measure for the September 12th Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition.
I never once claimed to possess medical research on the matter and I never claimed that it was a categorical and irrefutable fact that two minute rounds completely eliminates KO’s in women’s boxing.
My opinion is based on the opinions of others, who should be considered as being experts on the matter.
I did not lie about my opinion of two minute rounds. In fact, I stand by it.
This is a failed attempt on your part to either prove I lied or to divert attention from my honesty challenge.
And on a separate note, I never once said that “size is the only thing that matters”. Anyone claiming that is lying. They cannot quote my words claiming this.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 00:53
I’m still waiting for people to walk the talk.oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:32...and THAT ends That!lazboy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:30People disprove you all the time however you fail to acknowledge it. There would be no point in anyone rehashing past arguments given this. There's only one other avenue, ridicule. You are the joke of the boxrec forum. You've done this to yourself. Any professional connections or impression you were trying to make to establish a career as a boxing journalist Ibeen scuppered by your own behaviour.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:19
If I lied as often as people claimed, then surely it should be easy to prove it?
However, people are side-stepping my challenge, by either ignoring it (i.e. Riddick Blowe) or resorting to insults, because it’s clear they can’t prove things that never once occurred in reality.
No one, not one single human being, is capable of proving I lied about anything.
No one can backup their false belief about me claiming that “size was the only thing that matters”. No one...
Telling me I’m “wrong” about something I never once claimed or calling me a “joke”, is essentially a blatant admission that you’ve lied.
And do you want to know the reason why? It’s because you lied and don’t want to admit it.
You basically resort to insults, because you’re far too scared to admit to lying!
...and THAT ends That!
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 00:55
You cannot justify an opinion with an opinion.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:46Like I said before, I am able to justify my opinion about two minute rounds being used as a safety measure in women’s boxing, by quoting the claims made by the WBC (based on their own research).punchoutsb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:33So you're saying you made a claim that wasn't factually based on anything? How can I trust you going forward if your posts aren't based on some sort of verifiable facts?
I can also share the opinions of several high-profile female boxers, such as Katie Taylor, who are against the use of two-minute rounds.
I can also quote the words of media articles who even suggested using two minute rounds as a safety measure for the September 12th Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition.
I never once claimed to possess medical research on the matter and I never claimed that it was a categorical and irrefutable fact that two minute rounds completely eliminates KO’s in women’s boxing.
My opinion is based on the opinions of others, who should be considered as being experts on the matter.
I did not lie about my opinion of two minute rounds. In fact, I stand by it.
This is a failed attempt on your part to either prove I lied or to divert attention from my honesty challenge.
And on a separate note, I never once said that “size is the only thing that matters”. Anyone claiming that is lying. They cannot quote my words claiming this.
In the future please make sure to use a disclaimer to warn other posters when you’re going to spout unverifiable nonsense.
Thanks!
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 01:11
The problem here is that you are attempting to make the determination, of whether you are lying or not. But you are the accused. There's a serious conflict of interest. It would be absurd if an accused liar gets to determine if they are a liar or not.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:53I’m still waiting for people to walk the talk.oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:32...and THAT ends That!lazboy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 20:30
People disprove you all the time however you fail to acknowledge it. There would be no point in anyone rehashing past arguments given this. There's only one other avenue, ridicule. You are the joke of the boxrec forum. You've done this to yourself. Any professional connections or impression you were trying to make to establish a career as a boxing journalist Ibeen scuppered by your own behaviour.
No one, not one single human being, is capable of proving I lied about anything.
No one can backup their false belief about me claiming that “size was the only thing that matters”. No one...
Telling me I’m “wrong” about something I never once claimed or calling me a “joke”, is essentially a blatant admission that you’ve lied.
And do you want to know the reason why? It’s because you lied and don’t want to admit it.
You basically resort to insults, because you’re far too scared to admit to lying!
...and THAT ends That!
If you source a impartial third person; perhaps people (including you) will put their arguments to that person, for some type of decision and ultimately a resolution.
Otherwise I suggest you be quiet. And I'll also be quiet on it.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 04:23
This thread reminds me of one of those old westerns where the hero goes into a saloon bar, orders a drink whilst sitting at the bar and for some inexplicable reason, gets into an altercation with some other bloke and lamps him and before you know it, random blokes are lamping each other and it's impossible to tell who is on what side.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 04:31
The opinions of experts are admissible as evidence of fact in lawsuits.punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:55You cannot justify an opinion with an opinion.
In the future please make sure to use a disclaimer to warn other posters when you’re going to spout unverifiable nonsense.
So yes, you can justify a personal opinion, using the opinion of an expert or multiple experts.
Therefore, please make sure YOU use a disclaimer to warn other posters when you’re going to spout unverifiable nonsense.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 04:36
What a load of nonsense!lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 01:11The problem here is that you are attempting to make the determination, of whether you are lying or not. But you are the accused. There's a serious conflict of interest. It would be absurd if an accused liar gets to determine if they are a liar or not.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:53I’m still waiting for people to walk the talk.
No one, not one single human being, is capable of proving I lied about anything.
No one can backup their false belief about me claiming that “size was the only thing that matters”. No one...
Telling me I’m “wrong” about something I never once claimed or calling me a “joke”, is essentially a blatant admission that you’ve lied.
And do you want to know the reason why? It’s because you lied and don’t want to admit it.
You basically resort to insults, because you’re far too scared to admit to lying!
...and THAT ends That!
If you source a impartial third person; perhaps people (including you) will put their arguments to that person, for some type of decision and ultimately a resolution.
Otherwise I suggest you be quiet. And I'll also be quiet on it.
I suggest you stay quiet.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 04:39
It’s either that or a majority vote. Of course we cannot have you judging your behaviour, given it’s a conflict of interest and you’re generally irrational.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:36What a load of nonsense!lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 01:11The problem here is that you are attempting to make the determination, of whether you are lying or not. But you are the accused. There's a serious conflict of interest. It would be absurd if an accused liar gets to determine if they are a liar or not.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:53
I’m still waiting for people to walk the talk.
No one, not one single human being, is capable of proving I lied about anything.
No one can backup their false belief about me claiming that “size was the only thing that matters”. No one...
Telling me I’m “wrong” about something I never once claimed or calling me a “joke”, is essentially a blatant admission that you’ve lied.
And do you want to know the reason why? It’s because you lied and don’t want to admit it.
You basically resort to insults, because you’re far too scared to admit to lying!
...and THAT ends That!
If you source a impartial third person; perhaps people (including you) will put their arguments to that person, for some type of decision and ultimately a resolution.
Otherwise I suggest you be quiet. And I'll also be quiet on it.
I suggest you stay quiet.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 04:42
People can't judge words that were never posted to this forum.lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:39It’s either that or a majority vote. Of course we cannot have you judging your behaviour, given it’s a conflict of interest and you’re generally irrational.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:36What a load of nonsense!lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 01:11
The problem here is that you are attempting to make the determination, of whether you are lying or not. But you are the accused. There's a serious conflict of interest. It would be absurd if an accused liar gets to determine if they are a liar or not.
If you source a impartial third person; perhaps people (including you) will put their arguments to that person, for some type of decision and ultimately a resolution.
Otherwise I suggest you be quiet. And I'll also be quiet on it.
I suggest you stay quiet.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 05:23
It reminds me of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' and the part where Cheswick wants his cigarettes.Syntax Error wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:23 This thread reminds me of one of those old westerns where the hero goes into a saloon bar, orders a drink whilst sitting at the bar and for some inexplicable reason, gets into an altercation with some other bloke and lamps him and before you know it, random blokes are lamping each other and it's impossible to tell who is on what side.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 05:27
Oh yes.The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 05:23It reminds me of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' and the part where Cheswick wants his cigarettes.Syntax Error wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:23 This thread reminds me of one of those old westerns where the hero goes into a saloon bar, orders a drink whilst sitting at the bar and for some inexplicable reason, gets into an altercation with some other bloke and lamps him and before you know it, random blokes are lamping each other and it's impossible to tell who is on what side.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:21
The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 05:23It reminds me of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' and the part where Cheswick wants his cigarettes.Syntax Error wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:23 This thread reminds me of one of those old westerns where the hero goes into a saloon bar, orders a drink whilst sitting at the bar and for some inexplicable reason, gets into an altercation with some other bloke and lamps him and before you know it, random blokes are lamping each other and it's impossible to tell who is on what side.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:29
Ok, if we play by your silly rules...Looking back...Riddick never said you specifically stated those words. Here's what he said:Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:42 People can't judge words that were never posted to this forum.
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 12:41 I wonder how many threads we have now with the same moronic argument that size means everything in boxing
And I wonder how many involve EO
He's merely stating you are involved in those threads.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 18:37I wonder about how many times you keep fückîng lying, by your pretending I hold a stance I’ve never once conveyed.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 12:41 I wonder how many threads we have now with the same moronic argument that size means everything in boxing
Why don’t you, for once, show some integrity by proving your allegations against me by quoting my actual words?
If you either can’t or flatly refuse to do it, then you’re obviously fückïng lying!
I can understand an argument that he is implying it, although it's debatable. And it's certainly debatable that you have implied that size means everything in boxing, as you have said comments like "Andy Ruiz beats Sonny Liston because size matters".
But if we play by your silly rules, where we ignore implications and inferences. You've called Blow a liar for something he did not say and
Pretty dumb stuff man. You certainly judged Blowe, calling him a liar.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:42 People can't judge words that were never posted to this forum.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:33
If it's so "dumb", why don't you quote my words where I supposedly said that "size is the only thing that matters"?lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:29Pretty dumb stuff man. You certainly judged Blowe, calling him a liar.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:42 People can't judge words that were never posted to this forum.
I've never said that and it doesn't represent my thoughts.
And it is "pretty dumb" to hold me accountable for other people's lies, because that's precisely what they are.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:36
Man seriously...get help.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:33If it's so "dumb", why don't you quote my words where I supposedly said that "size is the only thing that matters"?lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:29Pretty dumb stuff man. You certainly judged Blowe, calling him a liar.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:42 People can't judge words that were never posted to this forum.
I've never said that and it doesn't represent my thoughts.
And it is "pretty dumb" to hold me accountable for other people's lies, because that's precisely what they are.