Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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No problems with the Spellman stoppage, you would like to think his corner would have pulled him out at the end of the round anyway given the number of head shots he took in the round.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Thing that concerns me about the stoppage is that this wasn’t a split second decision where the guy is getting rocked on his feet and it’s a marginal call as to whether he can defend himself, it was a knockdown Involving a tough guy where the ref had an opportunity to just say ‘walk to me’. But didn’t bother.

I’m guessing the ref just thought he had no way to win which i agree with but there needs to be a bit more consistency
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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I am just not sure what the benefit of allowing him to continue would have been?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 04:52 I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
Disagree mate i think voluntary taking a knee is a wise move when hurt and under severe pressure, the amount of fights I've seen stopped when I've seen the losing fighter complain when it was clear the ref was about to step in, I'd always advise take a knee, get some respite to see if you can recover, as Riddick says, ref never even asked Spelman to walk towards him, Spelman was a few round behind in my card but still well in the fight going into that 6th, if he'd been taking a sustained beating over the course of the fight I'd have no issues with the stoppage but for me that was premature
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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I was out for dinner last night so missed the show and just caught up.

Always nice to see a prospect turned over. Harrison did really well and seems a character.

Frankham looks decent and McCauley gave it a good go.

Essuman boxed well but isn’t the most exciting. No chance at all they’ll put Conor Benn in with him. High risk for little reward.

Stupid to put Jahanzeb on before the co-main. Given all the fights before had gone the distance they should have pushed the fight back to after the main event. He’s a tidy boxer but was 6-0 before the fight and needs a proper fight rather another journeyman. He wouldn’t have learnt much last night and no one will be clamouring to see him again.

Bentley vs Heffron wasn’t bad but didn’t quite live up to the expectations I had beforehand. I thought Heffron nicked it and it was a reasonably good, competitive fight.

The main event went as most of us would have expected. Yarde cagey early on, Spelman trying his best (and is a credit to the sport) but was outclassed as soon as Yarde stepped on the gas. Stoppage was early but Yarde would have overwhelmed Spelman shortly afterwards.

The main event didn’t start until gone 11.30 - makes no sense at all. They should have started at 7 and put the Jahanzeb on after the main to get the main event on at 10.30.

I struggle to warm to Yarde. Have a lot of sympathy for what’s happened to him and his family in recent months but the ‘Lions in the camp’ stuff really grates on me and I particularly dislike Tunde.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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The stoppage looked premature to me, but it’s too easy to second guess the ref. I’ve definitely seen worse.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Spelman took some clubbing shots around the side of the temple and it looked like he was bleeding from the ear. I am guessing his equilibrium was out of balance and he looked to take a knee.

Spelman was doing well though, and was maybe just a round down, but it was noticeable that when Yarde put his foot down there only ever looked one winner.

Buatsi will handle Yarde with ease, he's far too well schooled.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 05:08
veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 04:52 I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
Disagree mate i think voluntary taking a knee is a wise move when hurt and under severe pressure, the amount of fights I've seen stopped when I've seen the losing fighter complain when it was clear the ref was about to step in, I'd always advise take a knee, get some respite to see if you can recover,
Somewhere in the world datsue is toasting the spirit of Kennedy McKinney in tribute to your post and the lost art of the tactical knee-take :TU:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Counter-puncher wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 08:07
handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 05:08
veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 04:52 I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
Disagree mate i think voluntary taking a knee is a wise move when hurt and under severe pressure, the amount of fights I've seen stopped when I've seen the losing fighter complain when it was clear the ref was about to step in, I'd always advise take a knee, get some respite to see if you can recover,
Somewhere in the world datsue is toasting the spirit of Kennedy McKinney in tribute to your post and the lost art of the tactical knee-take :TU:
Haha cheers CP
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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No problem with that stoppage at all, he was taking some heavy heavy shots at the end and clearly had no chance - save him for another day.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 05:08
veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 04:52 I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
Disagree mate i think voluntary taking a knee is a wise move when hurt and under severe pressure, the amount of fights I've seen stopped when I've seen the losing fighter complain when it was clear the ref was about to step in, I'd always advise take a knee, get some respite to see if you can recover, as Riddick says, ref never even asked Spelman to walk towards him, Spelman was a few round behind in my card but still well in the fight going into that 6th, if he'd been taking a sustained beating over the course of the fight I'd have no issues with the stoppage but for me that was premature
I get your point, and I'm on the brink of agreeing with you, but there was a gulf in class between the two. It wasn't really apparent in the first few rounds as Yarde started slowly but when he turned it up a bit, Spelman was getting punched around the ring. I dont think the ref would have stopped it if he hadnt taken the knee, but the act of doing so was - to me - a clear sign that he wanted out. Spelman is a tough man, he prides himself on that so for him to drop to the floor without being forced by a punch was enough for me to think it was the end.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 12:53
handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 05:08
veriton wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 04:52 I thought the Spelman stoppage was spot on. He didn't go down from a punch, he took a knee voluntarily so was looking for a way out. Sometimes you have to read the signs, and the ref did
Disagree mate i think voluntary taking a knee is a wise move when hurt and under severe pressure, the amount of fights I've seen stopped when I've seen the losing fighter complain when it was clear the ref was about to step in, I'd always advise take a knee, get some respite to see if you can recover, as Riddick says, ref never even asked Spelman to walk towards him, Spelman was a few round behind in my card but still well in the fight going into that 6th, if he'd been taking a sustained beating over the course of the fight I'd have no issues with the stoppage but for me that was premature
I get your point, and I'm on the brink of agreeing with you, but there was a gulf in class between the two. It wasn't really apparent in the first few rounds as Yarde started slowly but when he turned it up a bit, Spelman was getting punched around the ring. I dont think the ref would have stopped it if he hadnt taken the knee, but the act of doing so was - to me - a clear sign that he wanted out. Spelman is a tough man, he prides himself on that so for him to drop to the floor without being forced by a punch was enough for me to think it was the end.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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MightyWarrior wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 10:48 No problem with that stoppage at all, he was taking some heavy heavy shots at the end and clearly had no chance - save him for another day.
I only gave Spelman a share of the 1st but I seen a few people give him the first 2 rounds and Woodhall gave him the 5th, I thought it was a competitive fight until Yarde turned it on in the 6th, there was only seconds left in the round and I'd have strongly fancied Yarde to finish him in the 7th but who knows Yarde can be too patient sometimes, I thought it was far too premature but a lot of people who's opinion I respect disagree so maybe not so bad
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Yas see, that's one reason fighters don't take the knee I think, even when they could use the recovery time. they are worried some people will see it as a sign of how hurt they are and then jump in to stop it. 'oh but he didnt want any more of it, he was giving in'

That and their own ego and also inability to see long term past the extra point off for the kd. Plus harder to think strategically when scrambled of course lol
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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margaret thatcher wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 15:44 Yas see, that's one reason fighters don't take the knee I think, even when they could use the recovery time. they are worried some people will see it as a sign of how hurt they are and then jump in to stop it. 'oh but he didnt want any more of it, he was giving in'

That and their own ego and also inability to see long term past the extra point off for the kd. Plus harder to think strategically when scrambled of course lol
Also instead of losing the round 10-9, it’s a 10-8.. more deficit.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Not a bad fight. Spelman competed well but Yarde always had something extra.

I certainly wasn't spitting fire when the ref stepped in...and I don't like an early stoppage. I understand where those are coming from who didn't like the timing of stoppage.

The writing seemed to be on the wall and I suspect Yarde had more gears to go through, so the ref may have saved Spelman from sustaining damage detrimental to his career.

Whilst the Yarde v Arthur match-up is good on paper, it just doesn't excite me and I've got my doubts if it will turn out to be any good.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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Spelman wad overmatched, I'd have stopped it before it started to be honest. So far in Yarde's career he's bowled over domestic level guys and lost at world kevel. How about an honest contest in between?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Yarde vs. Dec Spelman - 12 September 2020

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That's the one thing his team won't take. Buatsi is the perfect fight, especially if Yarde wins the Commonwealth title against Arthur.

Yarde said himself on a recent Costello & Bunce pod that a Buatsi fight won't happen without a crowd, so not happening anytime soon it seems.

Seems the F Warren Queensbury v Matchroom proposition of contests was just a pure publicity stunt :shame:
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