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Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 03 Dec 2020, 10:12
by Ruthless-RKO
Weigh-In Report
Saunders: 167.3 pounds
Murray: 167.4 pounds
OTHER WEIGHTS:
Shannon Courtenay 117.9 lbs. vs. Dorota Norek 115.9 lbs.—8 rds., bantamweight
Lerrone Richards 172 lbs. vs. Timo Laine 171.6 lbs.—8 rds., super middleweight
Lewis Edmonson 172 lbs. vs. John Telford 170 ½ lbs.—6 rds., super middleweight
Donte Dixon 127.6 lbs. vs. Angelo Dragone 127.9 lbs.—6 rds., junior lightweight
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:24
by ThereByTheGrace
Anyone think saunders will stop murray. Or just coast to an easy points win?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:27
by rd350lc
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 10:24
Anyone think saunders will stop murray. Or just coast to an easy points win?
I'd love an upset here but it's the later.
Murray is a tough lad and i can't see it being a stoppage.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:34
by ThereByTheGrace
rd350lc wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 10:27
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 10:24
Anyone think saunders will stop murray. Or just coast to an easy points win?
I'd love an upset here but it's the later.
Murray is a tough lad and i can't see it being a stoppage.
Fair enough. I think you are right. Saunders unanimous then.
Maybe just thinking old age catching up with murray but saunders just does enough to win rounds
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:39
by Jimmy2020
I like Martin Murray a lot but he is easy pickings for a switched on Billy Joe, very easy. Saunders is, from a reliable(ish) source, very focused at the moment. Thinks he's got his mind on retiring at the end of 2022.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:04
by CaptainSpacerod
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:18
by Counter-puncher
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:04
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
it's just possible that his trainers struggle to adapt to his instinctive, impish grasp of comedy.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:25
by Jimmy2020
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:04
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
No.
Jimmy Tibbs had reached the point in his life where he wanted to do less and being in camp in Marbella was something he didn't want to do anymore.
Davidson and Vaughan probably couldn't teach him much.
Doubt he gelled with Booth who is an acquired taste.
Probably too easy to lose focus in Sheffield, get bored, etc...
Now he's back with a Tibbs, he'll be right.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:38
by CaptainSpacerod
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:18
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:04
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
it's just possible that his trainers struggle to adapt to his instinctive, impish grasp of comedy.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:42
by CaptainSpacerod
Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:25
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:04
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
No.
Jimmy Tibbs had reached the point in his life where he wanted to do less and being in camp in Marbella was something he didn't want to do anymore.
Davidson and Vaughan probably couldn't teach him much.
Doubt he gelled with Booth who is an acquired taste.
Probably too easy to lose focus in Sheffield, get bored, etc...
Now he's back with a Tibbs, he'll be right.
I’d have thought ingle would be the perfect fit for him and living in Sheffield isn’t such a massive sacrifice to make to see if he can really achieve anything special in what’s left of his career.
Isn’t going back to Tibbs the easy option ? Can Bill maybe get away with more under Tibbs than he’d be able to under a more in charge head trainer.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 11:55
by emallini
Murray might come out swinging because it is his last chance and get rocked then stopped with a counter.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 12:36
by Jimmy2020
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:42
Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:25
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:04
Why does BJS change trainers so often - do they bail out because he’s not disciplined enough ?
No.
Jimmy Tibbs had reached the point in his life where he wanted to do less and being in camp in Marbella was something he didn't want to do anymore.
Davidson and Vaughan probably couldn't teach him much.
Doubt he gelled with Booth who is an acquired taste.
Probably too easy to lose focus in Sheffield, get bored, etc...
Now he's back with a Tibbs, he'll be right.
I’d have thought ingle would be the perfect fit for him and living in Sheffield isn’t such a massive sacrifice to make to see if he can really achieve anything special in what’s left of his career.
Isn’t going back to Tibbs the easy option ? Can Bill maybe get away with more under Tibbs than he’d be able to under a more in charge head trainer.
Shit weather in Sheffield, lonely and maybe the Ingle gym is a bit cultish, busy and better if you've grown up with it?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020
Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 12:55
by CaptainSpacerod
Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 12:36
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:42
Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 11:25
No.
Jimmy Tibbs had reached the point in his life where he wanted to do less and being in camp in Marbella was something he didn't want to do anymore.
Davidson and Vaughan probably couldn't teach him much.
Doubt he gelled with Booth who is an acquired taste.
Probably too easy to lose focus in Sheffield, get bored, etc...
Now he's back with a Tibbs, he'll be right.
I’d have thought ingle would be the perfect fit for him and living in Sheffield isn’t such a massive sacrifice to make to see if he can really achieve anything special in what’s left of his career.
Isn’t going back to Tibbs the easy option ? Can Bill maybe get away with more under Tibbs than he’d be able to under a more in charge head trainer.
Shit weather in Sheffield, lonely and maybe the Ingle gym is a bit cultish, busy and better if you've grown up with it?
Can’t argue with that. Anyhow his time with Ingle adds a bit of spice to any future clash with Williams hopefully