A barn-burner virtually guaranteed with this one. Unfortunately the BS coming from the 'big lug's' division
will garner all the column inches. Warrington called Taylor/Prograis "boxing porn", and this has all the same
credentials. Cant wait for this, i'm like a dog with two dix.
Ramirez comes over as a decent bloke so wouldn't expect any clownery in the build up. Can't be having Josh at
1.4 in the betting. Only 7% 'ish better than Canello the other week Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
still fresh in the memory.
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 05:05A barn-burner virtually guaranteed with this one. Unfortunately the BS coming from the 'big lug's' division
will garner all the column inches. Warrington called Taylor/Prograis "boxing porn", and this has all the same
credentials. Cant wait for this, i'm like a dog with two dix.
Ramirez comes over as a decent bloke so wouldn't expect any clownery in the build up. Can't be having Josh at
1.4 in the betting. Only 7% 'ish better than Canello the other week Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
still fresh in the memory.
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑17 May 2021, 09:05
People seem confident Taylor will win. I think it’s a really dangerous fight. He’s fought abroad in WSB and Amateur but not as a pro. The Vegas time difference always has an effect. I’m not as confident as everyone else.
He’s been in Vegas for weeks so should be well adjusted.
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 05:05
A barn-burner virtually guaranteed with this one. Unfortunately the BS coming from the 'big lug's' division
will garner all the column inches. Warrington called Taylor/Prograis "boxing porn", and this has all the same
credentials. Cant wait for this, i'm like a dog with two dix.
Ramirez comes over as a decent bloke so wouldn't expect any clownery in the build up. Can't be having Josh at
1.4 in the betting. Only 7% 'ish better than Canello the other week Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
still fresh in the memory.
I am as excited as you are for this one. The outcome has historic implications no matter which way it goes.
I am not as convinced as you are that it will be “a barn-burner” though, based on the blueprint that Postol presented v Ramirez last August. Unlike in his fight with Taylor, the Ukrainian chose not to engage in firefights, boxing on the back foot from distance for nearly the entire 12 rounds. It made for a less than stellar watch, but it resulted in a close decision.
It is possible that Team Taylor will take a similar approach.
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 05:05
A barn-burner virtually guaranteed with this one. Unfortunately the BS coming from the 'big lug's' division
will garner all the column inches. Warrington called Taylor/Prograis "boxing porn", and this has all the same
credentials. Cant wait for this, i'm like a dog with two dix.
Ramirez comes over as a decent bloke so wouldn't expect any clownery in the build up. Can't be having Josh at
1.4 in the betting. Only 7% 'ish better than Canello the other week Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
still fresh in the memory.
I am as excited as you are for this one. The outcome has historic implications no matter which way it goes.
I am not as convinced as you are that it will be “a barn-burner” though, based on the blueprint that Postol presented v Ramirez last August. Unlike in his fight with Taylor, the Ukrainian chose not to engage in firefights, boxing on the back foot from distance for nearly the entire 12 rounds. It made for a less than stellar watch, but it resulted in a close decision.
It is possible that Team Taylor will take a similar approach.
Team Taylor might... but like I say I sense a bit of Calzaghe in Taylor, I don’t think he likes to cede even the idea of dominance to an opponent.
When the chips were down with Prograis he made the (slightly surprising, to me) decision to go on the inside and lean/wrestle/maul Prograis, rather than box from the outside. More difficult to do that against the taller (than Regis) Ramirez but it’s an example of his getting gritty not slick when occasion demanded
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 05:05
A barn-burner virtually guaranteed with this one. Unfortunately the BS coming from the 'big lug's' division
will garner all the column inches. Warrington called Taylor/Prograis "boxing porn", and this has all the same
credentials. Cant wait for this, i'm like a dog with two dix.
Ramirez comes over as a decent bloke so wouldn't expect any clownery in the build up. Can't be having Josh at
1.4 in the betting. Only 7% 'ish better than Canello the other week Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
still fresh in the memory.
I am as excited as you are for this one. The outcome has historic implications no matter which way it goes.
I am not as convinced as you are that it will be “a barn-burner” though, based on the blueprint that Postol presented v Ramirez last August. Unlike in his fight with Taylor, the Ukrainian chose not to engage in firefights, boxing on the back foot from distance for nearly the entire 12 rounds. It made for a less than stellar watch, but it resulted in a close decision.
It is possible that Team Taylor will take a similar approach.
Team Taylor might... but like I say I sense a bit of Calzaghe in Taylor, I don’t think he likes to cede even the idea of dominance to an opponent.
When the chips were down with Prograis he made the (slightly surprising, to me) decision to go on the inside and lean/wrestle/maul Prograis, rather than box from the outside. More difficult to do that against the taller (than Regis) Ramirez but it’s an example of his getting gritty not slick when occasion demanded
I hope you are right, but that may be all wrong for Taylor in this one.
While Taylor is not my favourite person, I would love to be out in Vegas to see this. To see a Scottish Fighter headline our there is long been a thing I've wanted to see.
It's interesting the venue went from the mandalay bay arena to what was called the big joint, which was always used for the Thursday/Friday shows that were heald ahead of the bigger Saturday show.
Makes me think, that they were banking on Scottish Fight Fans being out of Quarantine and being over for it.
TOM GRAY: TAYLOR UD
“Taylor established himself as the finest 140-pounder in the world when he defeated Regis Prograis in October 2019. Ramirez is solid and a very good fighter but very good won’t be enough here. Taylor is special, and he’s superior in almost every department. A late stoppage wouldn’t be a surprise, but I think the Mexican-American’s pride and toughness will see him reach the finish line. I see Taylor thoroughly dominating this fight.”
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: TAYLOR UD
“I feel Taylor is a more rounded fighter and will be a step ahead of Ramirez. I feel Taylor can box off the backfoot and also be aggressive when he needs to be. Ramirez tends to just be the aggressor. I think a firefight suits Ramirez, and then you can flip a coin. I just feel Taylor will pick his spots when to box and when to stand and trade. The Scottish fighter will win a comfortable unanimous decision, something like 8-4 in rounds. I wouldn’t rule out a late stoppage for him either.”
LEE GROVES: RAMIREZ PTS
“As is the case in most fights, the outcome will be determined by which man forces his pace as well as his style of fighting. If Ramirez forces a slugging match, his superior work rate will help his cause but if Taylor slows things down and uses his lefty stance to stymie Ramirez’s jab, he will take a big step toward victory. I see Taylor doing well in the early rounds with Ramirez picking things up later. It will be an exciting, nip-and-tuck affair and while the cards may very well be divided, I believe Ramirez’s aggression and output will swing enough rounds his way.”
MICHAEL WOODS: RAMIREZ PTS
“I believe there is an 85-percent chance that we get a whole bunch of give and take, ebb and flow. I sense the timing being right for a truly fan-friendly structured rumble. Two points maybe will separate these two end of night. Ramirez, a tad grittier, will be the busier man later. Will, not power or stamina, will prove the difference maker. By a slight margin, after a couple minor classic rounds, Jose has his hand raised.”
RON BORGES: RAMIREZ PTS
“Although Josh Taylor is a heavy favorite to defeat Jose Ramirez, hold on a minute. Heavy favorite based on what? They both went the distance with Postol, and while some point out two of the undefeated Ramirez’s last three title defenses were won by majority decision, his critics forget to add that not a single judge voted against him. Four had him winning and two had draws. Ramirez is well trained by Robert Garcia, a proud guy with a shot to make history among Mexican fighters with a win. He is durable, can box and has the skills to outpoint and outhustle Taylor, which he will do by winning a tight decision.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: TAYLOR MD
“I envision a close fight, with an intangible like Taylor having boxed the better level of opposition and superior timing making the difference. While Ramirez owns size, reach, and age advantages, I don’t see him overcoming Taylor’s versatility and jab which pushes foes in directions Taylor dictates. In my opinion Ramirez has overachieved to date, so it is hard to bet against his determined mindset. Taylor’s eye-catching combinations and greater accuracy should give him the slightest of nods from the judges. I will go with a majority decision for Taylor via 115-113 against 114-114 range.”
MICHAEL MONTERO: TAYLOR PTS
“This is the very definition of a ‘pick em’ fight; I can honestly see it going either way. Inactivity could play a factor. Both men fought once in 2020, but Ramirez fough 12 hard rounds with Viktor Postol, while Taylor needed less than a round to get rid of his IBF mandatory opponent. In the end, I just think Taylor has an extra degree that will help him edge this one out. Gimme Taylor points, 115-113.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: TAYLOR UD
“Two fighters, both in their prime, in a fight for all of the pieces of the junior welterweight title. What’s not to like? The safest pick is Fight of the Year. In the end however, the edge goes to Taylor, who has more in his skillset than Jose Ramirez has. Ramirez’ toughness, his dogged durability, means he’ll be there for 12 rounds. But it also means he’ll be there as a target for Taylor’s precise, often explosive punches until the punishing end of a decisive victory for the Scot.”
BOXING INSIDERS
STEVE FARHOOD (TV ANALYST): TAYLOR PTS
“Great matchup. Both of these two are proven at the highest level, and this figures to be worthy of a fight that will crown a four-belt champion. Once again, Ramirez’s style will require constant aggression. My guess is that Taylor has ample opportunities to counter, score, and win rounds. Taylor by close decision in an action fight.”
DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): RAMIREZ MD
“It’s not often we see a unified match up where both champions are at the top of their game. Both Taylor and Ramirez are on a mission to be No. 1. Taylor is arguably the better boxer, very tidy, fit, strong and won’t back up in this fight. We know both are combative and pugnacious. I feel Ramirez is better at in-fighting, as neither boxer will take a backwards step. I lean towards Ramirez, who has a relentless mean streak in his work. He hooks savagely to head and body and is a good finisher. Ramirez wins a majority decision.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): TAYLOR PTS
“I feel Taylor has more dimensions to his game and is crispier with his shots. Ramirez is a warrior will be coming forward all night long. Taylor can’t be drawn into a war. I’m going with Taylor by decision.”
VIKTOR POSTOL (FORMER WBC JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT TITLEHOLDER): TAYLOR PTS
“If Ramirez can’t catch Taylor with good punch, I’d go with Taylor. Taylor can box different ways; he is more versatile and can adapt to many styles. I think Taylor wins it on points.”
ALEX STEEDMAN (COMMENTATOR): TAYLOR PTS
“Ramirez always brings it and Taylor is a class act. You have to feel that Ramirez will require more than he has shown so far to win but he will ask questions. Can the pace, intensity and reach of Ramirez cause enough problems? I don’t think so but a close fight could unfold. Ultimately, I see Taylor’s technique and variety being the difference on the cards.”
KATHY DUVA (PROMOTER, MAIN EVENTS): RAMIREZ PTS
“This is truly a pick ’em fight, and I am interested to see it. In the end, though, I have to give the edge to Ramirez. I don’t think that Taylor is likely to stop him, so I expect that Ramirez is more likely to win a decision given his hometown advantage.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): TAYLOR UD
“I am going to go with Taylor on this one, based off of his southpaw stance. The last time Ramirez fought a southpaw was against Zepeda, which was a close fight. I am giving the edge to Taylor in this one by unanimous decision.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER, GOLDEN BOY): RAMIREZ UD
“Very even and very close fight. I see both having their moments and rounds going back and forth. I usually favor the boxer over the more aggressive fighter, but in this case I must favor the one that has the more experience and the one that has had the tougher fights. I see a unanimous decision for Jose Ramirez in a very close and entertaining fight.”
REGIS PROGRAIS (FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT TITLEHOLDER): TAYLOR SD
“I think Taylor should be able to outbox him, keep the southpaw jab in his face all night, then he can hit him with some big shots. Ramirez has had trouble with boxers. He wants to get on the inside, bang the body, but if Josh tries to keep him on the outside, he should win. I think it will definitely be a close fight. I see a split decision for Taylor.”
CAMERON DUNKIN (PROMOTER, D&D BOXING): RAMIREZ TKO
“I like Ramirez, I think he has a shot at stopping Taylor late. I think Ramirez is going to be tremendous shape, he’s not going to stop punching, he’s going to push Taylor. It’s going to be a firefight and I think Ramirez stops him late.”
BRANDUN LEE (JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CONTENDER): TAYLOR PTS
“It’s going to be a good fight. Josh Taylor by decision. He’s faster, a southpaw, better skills, light on his feet, and the better boxer overall.”
RICKY HATTON (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ TRAINER): TAYLOR PTS
“A good fight, two unbeaten champions, neither knows what it’s like to lose and an unbeaten fighter is a dangerous fighter. It’s a big unification and should be a cracker. It’s hard to go against Josh Taylor. He’s in form and at the top of his game, having fought at the higher level, so I’m going with Josh on points.”
Interesting, I didn’t expect to see so many picks for the Mexican, usually the predictions tend to reflect the bookies view ...damn, i think old Duke McKenzie is usually quite a good judge of who wins a fight.
But there is no way I can’t back our man Taylor: chin, heart, punch, boxing nous, he’s got it all - but it’s going to be a close one !
Taylor's eye after the Prograis win is
Not certain...but I am confident that it will be late and early simultaneously.