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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:21 Molina wasnt even hurt

he quit

lazboy wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 19:06 Wow I can’t believe povetkin stood up to that massive haymaker.

Me neither.

That was shocking.

I'm not surprised that Dillian was concerned for Sasha afterwards.

I don't see any top 10 heavyweight walking on to that and continuing the way Povetkin did.

Two warriors, shame one had to lose.

Absolutely. I wanted Dillian to win but at the same time I didn't want Povetkin to lose. Obviously two incompatible outcomes. At his age Povetkin is very close to retirement, in fact as much as I respect and admire him, and love to watch him fight, I hope he doesn't fight again.

He went down battling as you'd expect. How I wish we had more heavyweights that are as fearless and as eager to take on anybody as these two.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:18

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:16 Ok om pissed this is wasting my time. Im actively rooting for molina to land a hail mary

Me too.

This Fabio kid is füçkíñg garbage!

This kid is 25 years old and never had an amateur fight. He got into boxing by the "white-collar" route which is named for office workers (and anyone else) who fancies trying their luck against similar untrained, like-minded individuals, so at this point he's knocked out a two-time world title challenger after an 11 fight apprenticeship.

Molina is now pretty poor by world level standards, truth be told he always was, but he was a good test for a relative novice like Wardley. Dismissing the lad as "f*cking garbage" is absurd. It's all about levels. Not too many boxers are ever going to trouble the top 10 or 20 in the world, it doesn't make them garbage. You know this and I'd be considerably less civil about it if I thought you really meant that.

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 12:25

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:18

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:16 Ok om pissed this is wasting my time. Im actively rooting for molina to land a hail mary

Me too.

This Fabio kid is füçkíñg garbage!

Dismissing the lad as "f*cking garbage" is absurd. It's all about levels. Not too many boxers are ever going to trouble the top 10 or 20 in the world, it doesn't make them garbage. You know this and I'd be considerably less civil about it if I thought you really meant that.

Sky Sports Hype justifies my garbage claims.

If they marketed him as mediocre talent, I wouldn’t have said a word.

And if Fabio wasn’t showboating or cocky, then I wouldn’t have said a word.

They are trying to market and push him to a ranking if hes fighting before the main event

So in that case hes fair game to criticize. He fought like crap and molina packed it in

So, it wasn't possible for 41 year old Povetkin to come back fit after covid. No speed and explosiveness anymore, his legs and chin are gone. Povetkin must retire.

@ EO and JL: Ok I can at least see where you're coming from. Wardley's style is naturally what might reasonably described as showboating, hands low, relying on his reflexes. It does come across as cocky but whether or not it's fair to demand a higher standard of performance from a boxer who employs such a style, I'm not convinced.

As for Sky Sports, maybe their over-exuberance stems from Wardley's handling of Richard Lartey being more impressive than that of Daniel Dubois or Nathan Gorman? Ok, Lartey isn't much more than a domestic level fighter but he earned respect for his toe to toe action with DDD, I have to say I was impressed by Wardley that night.

His win over Molina was not at all convincing, but he got him out of there in five. I wouldn't write him off on the basis of one lacklustre stoppage win over a guy who gave Hrgovic some problems in his last fight, and who once shook up a prime Deontay Wilder.

lartey is a patsy, never won a single round vs anyone half decent, i have to lol at the instence some ppl have of him being any sort of legit test

btw, hrgovic dropped molina 3x in 3 rounds and stopped him easily. molina had like a 10 second spell in the 2nd where he landed some rights over hrg's lazy defense and that was it. a bit of a stretch to say that hrgovic has trouble in that fight. his whole demeanor and the result said it was a walk in the park for him

wardly has some good raw tools and can prob improve given he's young and not experienced, but defo did not look hawt against molina and you could really see the limitations there. if molina had half a heart wardley wouldve been in some serious trouble

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 21:56 wardly has some good raw tools and can prob improve given he's young and not experienced, but defo did not look hawt against molina and you could really see the limitations there. if molina had half a heart wardley wouldve been in some serious trouble

Nothing can be said much about Wardly now. He's a decent prospect, that's it. But prospects not always become someone big. Molina is a never-was and an oldman, who is getting worse with every fight. This bout proves nothing.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 21:56 lartey is a patsy, never won a single round vs anyone half decent, i have to lol at the instence some ppl have of him being any sort of legit test

btw, hrgovic dropped molina 3x in 3 rounds and stopped him easily. molina had like a 10 second spell in the 2nd where he landed some rights over hrg's lazy defense and that was it. a bit of a stretch to say that hrgovic has trouble in that fight. his whole demeanor and the result said it was a walk in the park for him

wardly has some good raw tools and can prob improve given he's young and not experienced, but defo did not look hawt against molina and you could really see the limitations there. if molina had half a heart wardley wouldve been in some serious trouble

I'm not sure Dubois would agree with your assessment of Lartey. I already made the point he is domestic level but the fact remains Wardley dealt with him better than Dubois or Gorman did. I'm not saying that is terribly significant but it suggests Wardley has some degree of promise.

Molina is not and never was, a fighter who deserved two cracks at a world title but he is experienced and was a decent enough test for a young fighter whose only experience was ten pro fights and however many white-collar fights he had.

I'm making no claims that Wardley is going to be anything special but let's give the kid a chance before writing him off shall we?

dubois steamrolled lartey, lartey hasnt won a single round against anyone half decent, you are making too much of a guy who is basically a punch bag with a funny beard. it's happened a lot after the dub-lartey fight, same thing led to a number of ppl picking lartey to trouble or even beat gorman........guess what, lartey couldnt win a round, like is always the case when he faces someone with a pulse

and as far as comparing results vs common opponents, i mean, i could also say dom breazeale had an easier time with molina than wilder did, but what significance did that really have when they met each other or other good opponents?

not writing wardley off at all, he has some talent and time to improve, which youd expect there is room for him to do given his lack of expeirence. i just dont buy into the idea of lartey being a credible test or that molina troubled hrg

Lartey is now regarded as a joke but that has largely been a result of his getting crushed by Wardley. Nobody is saying that prior to that he was highly rated, but he engaged in a punch-out with Dubois that made him quite popular in the UK. Yes he did get steam-rollered but the way they were going at it, ignoring defence, this was going to happen to one or the other, Lartey being the way more likely candidate.

Lartey has now lost three in a row, the last a devastating knockout, so of course it's easy to describe him as just a punchbag and equally difficult to deny.

Hrgovic was never in danger of losing to Molina but Molina did make him look way too easy to hit. Of course that may be because Hrgovic had no respect for, no fear of, Molina's power.

That's all I'm going to say on the subject because this is getting tedious. Feel free to get the last word.

Lartey is shit. thats the simple truth of it. anyone that has anyyy aspiration of making it to brittish levle should beat him easily. DDD weirdly decided to trade with him, whitch made him land a punch or 2 and people cling to this like he is euro levle... he is bad, just a big guy thats not in terrible shape thats the extent of it.

boxrec has him as 192nd in the world, might be better than that, but not mch better. He never was good, never will be good, he is basicaly lovejoy... beat some plebs but will find his ceiling at about tom little levle....

Les Norton wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 06:18

morm wrote: ↑28 Feb 2021, 08:50 Can not , first time it was just a lucky shot
Whyte destroy him if he meet him again.

Well if he gets lucky again, he leaves him cold again.

or not :)

candyslim wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 03:58 Lartey is now regarded as a joke but that has largely been a result of his getting crushed by Wardley. Nobody is saying that prior to that he was highly rated, but he engaged in a punch-out with Dubois that made him quite popular in the UK. Yes he did get steam-rollered but the way they were going at it, ignoring defence, this was going to happen to one or the other, Lartey being the way more likely candidate.

Lartey has now lost three in a row, the last a devastating knockout, so of course it's easy to describe him as just a punchbag and equally difficult to deny.

Hrgovic was never in danger of losing to Molina but Molina did make him look way too easy to hit. Of course that may be because Hrgovic had no respect for, no fear of, Molina's power.

That's all I'm going to say on the subject because this is getting tedious. Feel free to get the last word.

Nah, not true, I was saying he was tomato soup even before the Gorman fight. And it's not just down to the Wardley fight at all, because on 3 occasions before that fight Lartey had faced prospects, and in all 3 fights he never won a round. He's basically a colourful punchbag who isnt good enough to win a round vs opponents with pulses. he's also been stopped in 3 of the 4, not like he was some proven iron man.

I mean, if people wanna get excited over Wardley beating him that's fine, but it's not something i'll ever be impressed with, Lartey is nothing.

gregregegg wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 04:13 Lartey is shit. thats the simple truth of it. anyone that has anyyy aspiration of making it to brittish levle should beat him easily. DDD weirdly decided to trade with him, whitch made him land a punch or 2 and people cling to this like he is euro levle... he is bad, just a big guy thats not in terrible shape thats the extent of it.

boxrec has him as 192nd in the world, might be better than that, but not mch better. He never was good, never will be good, he is basicaly lovejoy... beat some plebs but will find his ceiling at about tom little levle....