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Cyclops wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 06:01

gregregegg wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 00:24 Fury wilder 3 although unnecessary for me is still very interesting. How much of furys walk fowards sucsess came from suprise? (i know he said it, but noone belived it really). Wilder has had 18 months to come up with a way around that, is it try dance around back foot a bit then load up 1-2s trying to get fury on the way in, or is it just to embrace a fire fight, chin or be chinned within the first few rounds...
I personaly think he needs to go the latter, the question is if he does is if he does at that point what are the odds on this fight? Id say fury wins 3 times out of 4, so still a big risk.

It looked to me like he's spent at least a year of that crying and moaning and getting stoned and drunk. I doubt he's done anything boxing related particularly, and definitely hasn't worked on his lack of boxing skill, which we all know wasn't the reason for the loss. With the commission inspecting Fury's floppy gloves properly this time and removing the egg weights, making sure there's enough padding, Evil snake Breland no longer in the corner, his water not poisoned with muscle relaxant and his Eyes Wide Shut Illuminati costume being significantly lighter, there's no way he can lose.

Plus, you know, he's been hitting the pads with his best mate in his spare room.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021, 17:34 Glad to see Shane out there. He's definitely in serious training now.

As long as I see Shane, I'm happy.

Tyson looks f*cking awful though. I've partied and sunbathed a lot more than I've hit the gym over the past couple of weeks and I still have muscles and don't have bags under my eyes like Tyson. Tyson looks flabby and weak and like he needs a good rest from having fun. let alone a training camp. That is my only worry here.

Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021, 21:25

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021, 17:34 Glad to see Shane out there. He's definitely in serious training now.

As long as I see Shane, I'm happy.

Tyson looks f*cking awful though. I've partied and sunbathed a lot more than I've hit the gym over the past couple of weeks and I still have muscles and don't have bags under my eyes like Tyson. Tyson looks flabby and weak and like he needs a good rest from having fun. let alone a training camp. That is my only worry here.

he kinda always looks like a mess though. even 'in shape' fury. part of his thing is that he has a hip shape that goes outwards and hence always makes him look fatter than he is. plus the bald arse head doesnt help make him look fresh and young. kinda seems like travellers always look older than they are

he looked like a bit of a tubby lard arse at the rematch weigh in then pounded him silly. id actually forgotten all about that. wilder on the other hand looked the most beastly id ever seen. ppl after the weigh in started to lean more towards wilder. and then fury bashed him up

i figure hes gotta always be more prepared than he was for the first fight, where hed fought absolutely no one for years and still got a draw. wilder is 36 soon too. obviously he's still got a hammer of a right, but he also relies a lot on his speed with that punch,, and that could be getting jepordized soon

Some people regard Wilder as a top name on Fury's record, at the same time as a found-out bum who isn't worth bothering with now. Can't have it both ways; not unless you're crediting Fury with accepting a challenge that didn't match its hype, whereas AJ (for whatever reason) didn't.

I still think Wilder has the tools to beat Fury, but mentally he's not been at the races yet, so there's not much reason to see that changing. But on the off chance he does stop Fury, there'll be those who go back to calling him the great dangerman AJ ducked.

wlad is the top rated guy fury's beaten, but he certainly beat wilder in better fashion. both very good wins over top hws

fury 60-52 pounded and stopped wilder last time, that alone is enough to think that fury already dealt with wilder. wilder is getting a 3rd try without winning any of their fights. its not that wilder isnt worthy, its more that its already been done. basically the standard being applied is that to be able prove you've dealt with a guy you need to batter and stop a guy and face him 3 times w/o losing. that's asked of very few guys though

I know, but if you give him zero chance of winning this fight that has to call into question the merit of Fury beating him. In terms of comparing his record to his heavyweight peers', that is.

You might think that Fury beats Wilder all day whereas AJ wouldn't, but until those fights happen we've only their records for comparison. It's not like when Ali beat Foreman, because nobody instantly wrote-off Foreman's wins over Frazier and Norton. Ortiz clearly isn't in that league.

Maybe Wilder could beat AJ, y'know... Maybe AJ could beat Fury, and so on. I just really want Slow Joe to come through the lot of 'em now!

I think Josh beats Wilder too, of course with the mandatory 'of course wilder has a shot because of his pwoer'


another possible game changer is the effect of the costume on wilder, maybe it did sap all his strength and he's a different man without it. or maybe his knees have been permanently crushed by the weight

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021, 23:12 I just really want Slow Joe to come through the lot of 'em now!

All aboard the juggernaut! Joe for Undisputed!

I hope Wilder was ok after that press conference, his headphones looked too heavy for him

Tyson says he’s coming into the ring at 300lbs.
Do we believe it?
I hope he doesn’t as surely he would struggle if he doesn’t blow Wilder away early? 25lbs heavier than the last fight and 50lbs away from what I believe is Fury’s best fighting weight.
I have this nagging feeling that Deontay might knockout Fury and I’m a massive fan of his.

Canelo-GGG is 1-0-1 like this bout is. That’s deserved more of a trilogy than this..

The Big Dosser wasn't even able to say anything. He knows, how deep he was buried with his excuses. He gotta be destroyed brutally.

The Gypsy King has a great attitude, some interesting stuff said:

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 05:03 Tyson says he’s coming into the ring at 300lbs.
Do we believe it?
I hope he doesn’t as surely he would struggle if he doesn’t blow Wilder away early? 25lbs heavier than the last fight and 50lbs away from what I believe is Fury’s best fighting weight.
I have this nagging feeling that Deontay might knockout Fury and I’m a massive fan of his.

of course he wont

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021, 23:24 I think Josh beats Wilder too, of course with the mandatory 'of course wilder has a shot because of his pwoer'

heavyweight boxing! anything can happen! only takes one punch!

In Wilder-Joshua matchup Wilder's puncher chance is especially big. Joshua is quite hittable and showed vulnerabilities after being hit. Anyway, that fight ain't gonna happen, because The Big Dosser will retire after being overwhelmed by The Gypsy King. Joshua will be next in the line, if he managed to handle Usyk.

Wilder spent over a year throwing every accusation at Fury, each one more bizarre than the last, finally got a chance to say it face to face and shat it, what a weasel, he knew he would have to face the music here and bottled it, he's ruined

Whats with the hair..

I thought it was KSI at first..

DrDuke wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 06:17 The Big Dosser wasn't even able to say anything. He knows, how deep he was buried with his excuses. He gotta be destroyed brutally.

The Gypsy King has a great attitude, some interesting stuff said:

Really good interview from Tyson there.

I don’t think Wilder heard a thing at the presser. He had his headphones in the whole time.. Scott had to get his attention for the face to face.

Allas wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 08:11 Wilder knocks Fury out.

what makes ya think that, couldnt do it in 2 tries so far and got a lot worse last time

for me if i am to question fury, its, does he become too confident. because outside that, i think wilder just has his usual 'big right hand' chance , which so far hasnt been enough , and little else to really get optimistic about

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 08:14

Allas wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 08:11 Wilder knocks Fury out.

what makes ya think that, couldnt do it in 2 tries so far and got a lot worse last time

for me if i am to question fury, its, does he become too confident. because outside that, i think wilder just has his usual 'big right hand' chance , which so far hasnt been enough , and little else to really get optimistic about

Fury is smart enough, he won't make mistakes like that.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 06:17

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 05:03 Tyson says he’s coming into the ring at 300lbs.
Do we believe it?
I hope he doesn’t as surely he would struggle if he doesn’t blow Wilder away early? 25lbs heavier than the last fight and 50lbs away from what I believe is Fury’s best fighting weight.
I have this nagging feeling that Deontay might knockout Fury and I’m a massive fan of his.

of course he wont

He also said he was going to come out and fight fire with fire against Wilder in the 2nd fight; no one believed him but he did.
I’m deffo not saying he will come in close to 300lbs but he can be so emotionally unstable that I wouldn’t rule it out. I mean, he’s gotta be 270lbs at the moment so a couple of stone for a man of his frame wouldn’t look ridiculously different.
Like I said, I think he will come in at 275lbs but I’ve learnt never to rule anything out with Tyson.

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 09:13

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 06:17

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 05:03 Tyson says he’s coming into the ring at 300lbs.
Do we believe it?
I hope he doesn’t as surely he would struggle if he doesn’t blow Wilder away early? 25lbs heavier than the last fight and 50lbs away from what I believe is Fury’s best fighting weight.
I have this nagging feeling that Deontay might knockout Fury and I’m a massive fan of his.

of course he wont

He also said he was going to come out and fight fire with fire against Wilder in the 2nd fight; no one believed him but he did.
I’m deffo not saying he will come in close to 300lbs but he can be so emotionally unstable that I wouldn’t rule it out. I mean, he’s gotta be 270lbs at the moment so a couple of stone for a man of his frame wouldn’t look ridiculously different.
Like I said, I think he will come in at 275lbs but I’ve learnt never to rule anything out with Tyson.

No one believed him because he's said he was going to do things 1000 times before and either not bothered, not been able to or just done the opposite.

That’s what I’m saying; with Tyson anything is possible.

Anyone else think Wilder looked big between the shoulders...my first reaction was juiced