Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Luis Ortiz | FOX PPV - September 4, 2022

[Thomastearns]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

You forgot to mention the illegal use of gloves. At one time Fury was almost bare knuckle fighting.

There is nothing much clean about Fury, but this is boxing today.

If Deontay wants redemption he will have his chance in just a fortnight's time.

As for Ruiz, I'd love to see him get his act together. With so much talent there Andy just needs to get his head together.

Of course it's much easier said than done.

Where's today's Cus D'Amato when you need him?

[oogiebe]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

Yeah, we ridiculed DW for not locking in on that shot to the ear. He said everything else but...

[Enlightened-One]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

Yeah, we ridiculed DW for not locking in on that shot to the ear. He said everything else but...

Are we referring to the third round knockdown, when Wilder twisted his face away from Fury's right hook?

"Protect yourself at all times!"

Wilder shouldn't have turned his head away. So there was no foul, because Fury didn't intentionally throw a rabbit punch.

Other than that, the fight was very clumsy. And Wilder has a very unorthodox style. Things will happen to him, because he doesn't use the guard nor head movement to avoid shots.

[oogiebe]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

Yeah, we ridiculed DW for not locking in on that shot to the ear. He said everything else but...

Are we referring to the third round knockdown, when Wilder twisted his face away from Fury's right hook?

"Protect yourself at all times!"

Wilder shouldn't have turned his head away. So there was no foul, because Fury didn't intentionally throw a rabbit punch.

Other than that, the fight was very clumsy. And Wilder has a very unorthodox style. Things will happen to him, because he doesn't use the guard nor head movement to avoid shots.

Def not a foul. My point was it was a shot worth admitting threw DW off for the fight. The only 'viable' excuse he could've used.

[Bandog]

Yeah, we ridiculed DW for not locking in on that shot to the ear. He said everything else but...

Are we referring to the third round knockdown, when Wilder twisted his face away from Fury's right hook?

"Protect yourself at all times!"

Wilder shouldn't have turned his head away. So there was no foul, because Fury didn't intentionally throw a rabbit punch.

Other than that, the fight was very clumsy. And Wilder has a very unorthodox style. Things will happen to him, because he doesn't use the guard nor head movement to avoid shots.

Def not a foul. My point was it was a shot worth admitting threw DW off for the fight. The only 'viable' excuse he could've used.

Yes, his legs were obviously gone after that. Much the same as Ruiz hitting AJ. Just trying to make a simple point about similar punches that can change a fight. Wilder was foolish with all the other excuses. Some folks don't accept losing well.

[margaret thatcher]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

bruh, you moan about people making excuses, and then you continually make a sh!t ton of them , you're evening adding in new ones as we speak

[lazboy]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

I see what you are saying here, Wilder delivered a punch to the back of Fury's head in Rd 9 of their first fight and it should have been determined a unintentional foul and recovery time allowed. I get it. So, how many rds then has Wilder won in total? R12 in their first fight and arguably rd 1 in the second.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

I see what you are saying here, Wilder delivered a punch to the back of Fury's head in Rd 9 of their first fight and it should have been determined a unintentional foul and recovery time allowed. I get it. So, how many rds then has Wilder won in total? R12 in their first fight and arguably rd 1 in the second.

Don’t think he even won r12 even with the KD. Fury dominated that round after the KD.. well at least a 10-9 Wilder instead of 10-8

[Finkel]

It's a box I think better left unopened for team Wilder. He has form for rabbit punches and getting away with hitting opponents who were already down. Wilder likes to play rough, turns out Fury was just better at it.

[lazboy]

I simply said the punch that Fury delivered was to the back of Wilder's head. It should have been determined at least an unintentional foul, and recovery time should have been allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Excuses are generally lame, yes, but at least be adult enough to admit it is the truth. Neither guy was totally clean, but Fury had a good deal more fouls (rabbit punches. headlocks, holding and hitting.)

I see what you are saying here, Wilder delivered a punch to the back of Fury's head in Rd 9 of their first fight and it should have been determined a unintentional foul and recovery time allowed. I get it. So, how many rds then has Wilder won in total? R12 in their first fight and arguably rd 1 in the second.

Don’t think he even won r12 even with the KD. Fury dominated that round after the KD.. well at least a 10-9 Wilder instead of 10-8

So Bandog is making a case for Wilder winning one round ever, that is rd 1 in their second fight.

I don’t know about you but I reckon this Bandog is a bit of a Wilder hater.

[margaret thatcher]

i think bandog is some type of parody account:

canelo is racist for not fighting andrade

furys and manny suck for being big ped users, but luis ortiz is just so awesome

he rages about hating excuses......then in the same post makes an absolute sh!t ton of them

[Onetimeonly]

i think bandog is some type of parody account:

canelo is racist for not fighting andrade

furys and manny suck for being big ped users, but luis ortiz is just so awesome

he rages about hating excuses......then in the same post makes an absolute sh!t ton of them

Brut!!!

[DrDuke]

i think bandog is some type of parody account:

canelo is racist for not fighting andrade

furys and manny suck for being big ped users, but luis ortiz is just so awesome

he rages about hating excuses......then in the same post makes an absolute sh!t ton of them

Him and boxtune are the two of the most primitive parody accounts here. Maybe even the same guy.

[Bandog]

i think bandog is some type of parody account:

canelo is racist for not fighting andrade

furys and manny suck for being big ped users, but luis ortiz is just so awesome

he rages about hating excuses......then in the same post makes an absolute sh!t ton of them

Brut!!!

No, I kind of remind myself of badhusker.

[candyslim]

Is that your way of telling us you are badhusker with a new name?

[Syntax Error]

A pretty interesting fight were it to come off.

I don't know why, but I'm a bit of a fan of Ruiz.

He let himself down big time in the Joshua rematch, but there's no doubt that he can be an exciting fighter with something to offer at the top of the HW contender tree,

My money would be on Ruiz, primarily because Ortiz was born sometime between 1899 - 1933.

[Bandog]

Is that your way of telling us you are badhusker with a new name?

No, I'd get banned if I admitted that. I'm in my 60s, much older and wiser. Just have similar favorite boxers.

[Bandog]

A pretty interesting fight were it to come off.

I don't know why, but I'm a bit of a fan of Ruiz.

He let himself down big time in the Joshua rematch, but there's no doubt that he can be an exciting fighter with something to offer at the top of the HW contender tree,

My money would be on Ruiz, primarily because Ortiz was born sometime between 1899 - 1933.

I'd be shocked if Ruiz took the fight. If he does, I predict he gets KOd in 5 or 6. If he avoids that, he has a chance to win on points. It's a no win situation for Ruiz.

[candyslim]

Is that your way of telling us you are badhusker with a new name?

No, I'd get banned if I admitted that. I'm in my 60s, much older and wiser. Just have similar favorite boxers.

I'm sure you wouldn't. Many have flaunted their return from exile with impunity. Can't blame you for avoiding any risk though it's a policy that would be endorsed by your favourite heavyweight. Welcome back

[margaret thatcher]

sounds like someone needs to grow some balls and admit it's him

[margaret thatcher]

wilder needs to do something different, but i think using the tools/strengths he already has

if he comes out and tries stuff he's really never done before, i think it will just f@ck him more

someone i know suggested he try a left hook counter punching, back foot strategy, because well its different. something like that and he's getting his sh!t pushed in twice as hard.

id say, he should try taking the forward step and being the one coming ahead, dont let himself get pushed on the back foot

[oogiebe]

wilder needs to do something different, but i think using the tools/strengths he already has

if he comes out and tries stuff he's really never done before, i think it will just f@ck him more

someone i know suggested he try a left hook counter punching, back foot strategy, because well its different. something like that and he's getting his sh!t pushed in twice as hard.

id say, he should try taking the forward step and being the one coming ahead, dont let himself get pushed on the back foot

Literally pushing back on Fury's shoulders would work except Fury too big.

[candyslim]

A pretty interesting fight were it to come off.

I don't know why, but I'm a bit of a fan of Ruiz.

He let himself down big time in the Joshua rematch, but there's no doubt that he can be an exciting fighter with something to offer at the top of the HW contender tree,

My money would be on Ruiz, primarily because Ortiz was born sometime between 1899 - 1933.

I'd be shocked if Ruiz took the fight. If he does, I predict he gets KOd in 5 or 6. If he avoids that, he has a chance to win on points. It's a no win situation for Ruiz.

If it's a no win situation for Ruiz it'll be because most fans recognize there is little credit to be had for beating a guy who sat next to Fidel Castro at school, and you sure as hell don't want to lose to him.

Not long ago I'd have suggested you were nuts if you thought Ruiz was going to get knocked out by an old man on heart medication - You saw what happened when Joshua sat him down with the sweetest right hand/ left hook combination I ever saw AJ deliver? He looked a bit shocked, got to his feet, and proceeded to beat the crap out of the unified champion. I'll let you off though because for whatever reason Ruiz looked distinctly vulnerable in the opening rounds against Arreola so your comment doesn't look so daft.

I know you Wilder fans have to sing the praises of Luis Ortiz because if he isn't a (former) top drawer fighter then Wilder has never beaten one, but the fact remains that the best fighter Ortiz ever beat (Bryant Jennings) was also beaten by the likes of Joe Joyce and Oscar Rivas. I mean he also beat Tony Thompson which was fairly respectable but that was nine years ago when Ortiz was middle-aged.

Personally I'd be shocked if Ortiz took the fight. Ruiz only took the Joshua fight after Ortiz turned down an offer of 7 million dollars (I think his highest payday up until then had been 0.5) and he's turned down offers to fight Dillian Whyte on three occasions (so I've heard - can't confirm). Ruiz went all the way to the land of orcs and elves (oh and sheep mustn't forget the sheep) in order to take Joe Parker to a highly disputed decision so he doesn't lack bottle (that's 'heart' to you foreign types)

We know Ortiz is blowing out of his arse by round 6 or 7. I'd expect Ruiz to stop him anytime after that unless his punch resistance really has gone - permanently.

[tiny_acres]

50-50 fight in my eyes.

[Onetimeonly]

Dull decision, 50/50. Neither is stopping the other. Two very overrated punchers.