Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 22 Apr 2023, 16:59

Davis - Decision
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5%
Davis - T/KO
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56%
DRAW
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Garcia - T/KO
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Garcia - Decision
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17%
 
Total votes: 103

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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by margaret thatcher »

wow, a sh!t hot fight actually gets made in fairly timely fashion, awesome :yay:

both very talented, but garcia really sticks his chin in the air and his trip to the canvas was from a southpaw left, i also think despite the length difference he doesnt really use his length most effectively. i lean tank, who aside from work rate and being 3 foot 2 i think is top notch in pretty much every area, also with deeper experience
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Feb 2023, 15:10 wow, a sh!t hot fight actually gets made in fairly timely fashion, awesome :yay:

both very talented, but garcia really sticks his chin in the air and his trip to the canvas was from a southpaw left, i also think despite the length difference he doesnt really use his length most effectively. i lean tank, who aside from work rate and being 3 foot 2 i think is top notch in pretty much every area, also with deeper experience
At a shitty catch-weight, unfortunately.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by NateJR »

jtourettes wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 05:13
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Feb 2023, 15:10 wow, a sh!t hot fight actually gets made in fairly timely fashion, awesome :yay:

both very talented, but garcia really sticks his chin in the air and his trip to the canvas was from a southpaw left, i also think despite the length difference he doesnt really use his length most effectively. i lean tank, who aside from work rate and being 3 foot 2 i think is top notch in pretty much every area, also with deeper experience
At a shitty catch-weight, unfortunately.
I dont mind the catch weight, especially since I don't feel it gives either guy a real advantage.

I'm all for the catch weight fights if it mean 2 top fighters facing each other.

We wouldn't complain if Hearns and Leonard fought at a catch weight. A good fight is a good fight. As much as we complain about all the watered down titles, there should be no complaints about catch weight fights when it's a great match up.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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NateJR wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 17:31
jtourettes wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 05:13
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Feb 2023, 15:10 wow, a sh!t hot fight actually gets made in fairly timely fashion, awesome :yay:

both very talented, but garcia really sticks his chin in the air and his trip to the canvas was from a southpaw left, i also think despite the length difference he doesnt really use his length most effectively. i lean tank, who aside from work rate and being 3 foot 2 i think is top notch in pretty much every area, also with deeper experience
At a shitty catch-weight, unfortunately.
I dont mind the catch weight, especially since I don't feel it gives either guy a real advantage.

I'm all for the catch weight fights if it mean 2 top fighters facing each other.

We wouldn't complain if Hearns and Leonard fought at a catch weight. A good fight is a good fight. As much as we complain about all the watered down titles, there should be no complaints about catch weight fights when it's a great match up.
I would complain as for me there would always be an asterisk against the win. Catchweights and rehydration clauses are designed to give a fighter the advantage.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by NateJR »

jtourettes wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 17:41
NateJR wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 17:31
jtourettes wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 05:13

At a shitty catch-weight, unfortunately.
I dont mind the catch weight, especially since I don't feel it gives either guy a real advantage.

I'm all for the catch weight fights if it mean 2 top fighters facing each other.

We wouldn't complain if Hearns and Leonard fought at a catch weight. A good fight is a good fight. As much as we complain about all the watered down titles, there should be no complaints about catch weight fights when it's a great match up.
I would complain as for me there would always be an asterisk against the win. Catchweights and rehydration clauses are designed to give a fighter the advantage.
It really depends on the situation of both fighters. Rehydration clauses are bullshit regardless. In this case a catchweight with no rehydration clause, I don't see a real advantage to either guy.

I agree about the asterisk next to the fight based on the catchweight. But if that's what it took to get the fight made and both agreed to it, I'm just happy we're getting a good fight.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by Bandog »

NateJR wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 17:31
jtourettes wrote: 26 Feb 2023, 05:13
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Feb 2023, 15:10 wow, a sh!t hot fight actually gets made in fairly timely fashion, awesome :yay:

both very talented, but garcia really sticks his chin in the air and his trip to the canvas was from a southpaw left, i also think despite the length difference he doesnt really use his length most effectively. i lean tank, who aside from work rate and being 3 foot 2 i think is top notch in pretty much every area, also with deeper experience
At a shitty catch-weight, unfortunately.
I dont mind the catch weight, especially since I don't feel it gives either guy a real advantage.

I'm all for the catch weight fights if it mean 2 top fighters facing each other.

We wouldn't complain if Hearns and Leonard fought at a catch weight. A good fight is a good fight. As much as we complain about all the watered down titles, there should be no complaints about catch weight fights when it's a great match up.
I've never been a fan of catch weights, but at least this isn't for a major belt. 17 different weights should prevent that. If for a championship, I strongly oppose any catchweights, regardless of who is fighting.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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I'll go along with it, but these types of fights should be a steamroll job for Davis if he wants to prove himself.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia: Rematch Clause Favors Davis In Contracts For April 22 PPV Fight

Gervonta Davis joked during his post-fight press conference January 8 that Ryan Garcia agreed to virtually everything proposed in their contracts for a pay-per-view showdown that was finalized last week for April 22.

Garcia’s eagerness to prove himself versus Davis is evident in the details of their rematch clause. BS.com has learned that it favors Davis because they are contractually obliged to a rematch only if Garcia defeats Davis in their 12-round, 136-pound bout.

If Davis loses, he will then have the option of exercising his contractual right to an immediate rematch within a certain amount of time following their fight. If Garcia loses, Davis, who is considered the “A” side of their event, won’t have a contractual obligation to fight him again.

Davis opened as slightly less than a 3-1 favorite to defeat Garcia, according to Caesars Sportsbook.

Davis, 28, and Garcia, 24, confirmed Friday through their social media accounts that their much-discussed deal was completed for April 22 at a site to be determined in Las Vegas. The targeted date for their fight had long been April 15, but it was pushed back one week.

A site deal for the Davis-Garcia card hadn’t been finalized as of Wednesday. Three Las Vegas venues – the Raiders’ Allegiant Stadium, MGM Grand Garden Arena and T-Mobile Arena – are under consideration for the highest-profile fight on the 2023 boxing calendar.

Garcia and Davis previously announced November 17 on social media that they tentatively agreed to fight sometime in 2023 in Las Vegas.

Baltimore’s Davis (28-0, 26 KOs) first needed to defeat Dominican southpaw Hector Luis Garcia in an interim bout that took place January 7 at Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C. Davis stopped Garcia (16-1, 10 KOs, 3 NC) early in the ninth round of their 12-round, 135-pound fight, which headlined a Showtime Pay-Per-View event.

Garcia (23-0, 19 KOs), of Victorville, California, passed on a proposed tune-up fight against Filipino southpaw Mercito Gesta (33-3-3, 17 KOs), which would’ve taken place January 28. The popular knockout artist last fought July 16, when he dropped Dominican southpaw Javier Fortuna three times and knocked out Fortuna (37-4-1, 26 KOs, 2 NC) in the sixth round at Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Vito Mielnicki Jr. To Face Elias Espadas on the undercard
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia could take place at gigantic $2billion ‘Death Star’ stadium in Las Vegas

Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia has now been officially announced to take place on April 22 in Las Vegas.

However, the specific venue has not yet been confirmed.

The 136lbs catchweight clash is one of the biggest fights in boxing and could take place on a huge stage.

Showtime’s Stephen Espinoza has told ESPN Knockout that two venues being considered are the T-Mobile Arena and the the new Allegiant Stadium, which opened in 2020 for the Las Vegas Raiders NFL team.

This gigantic ultra-modern structure stands out in the Nevada desert, with Vegas’ other landmarks made to look small in comparison.

Sin City has never had a mega stadium before and is used to hosting big fights in its famous indoor arenas.

However, the T-Mobile Arena only has a capacity of around 20,000.

The Allegiant Stadium can host upwards of 60,000.

The stadium itself cost $1.975billion to build and ran $175million over the initial £1.8billion budget.

It has garnered the nickname ‘The Death Star’ because of the futuristic outer appearance.

The Allegiant Stadium was previously been linked with hosting Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder 3 and Canelo Alvarez vs Billy Joe Saunders, with both ultimately going elsewhere.

It would be a stunning boxing debut for the venue if it ended up hosting Davis vs Garcia.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by Evander »

I'm trying to get into the fight as a pro boxing match with credibility, but every time I look at it it screams hype fight rather that point bearing meaningful match up at the high level.
At this point it's balloons and colorful streams raining down on me man.
Where's the edge ?
The transition is difficult.
How do I go from an edgy ringside in Baltimore to an online fan crowd following Garcia.
Sell it to me.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Tank has to knock him out.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia: T-Mobile Arena In Las Vegas Site For April 22 PPV Fight

Gervonta Davis and Ryan Garcia have a site for their pay-per-view showdown April 22 in Las Vegas.

Premier Boxing Champions and Showtime announced Monday night that Davis and Garcia will fight at T-Mobile Arena, the venue where numerous high-profile boxing events have been held since it opened in 2016. The Raiders’ Allegiant Stadium and MGM Grand Garden Arena also were considered before organizers of Davis-Garcia agreed on T-Mobile Arena, home of the NHL’s Golden Knights.

Tickets for Davis-Garcia figure to sell out quickly. T-Mobile Arena can accommodate approximately 22,000 fans for boxing, roughly 5,000 more than nearby MGM Grand Garden Arena, which also has been the site of countless huge boxing cards since it opened in 1993.

Allegiant Stadium hasn’t held a boxing event since it opened in 2020. Thanks to expansive floor seating, Allegiant Stadium could hold more than 70,000 fans for boxing.

Neither Davis, who has packed various venues throughout the United States, nor Garcia have headlined a show at T-Mobile Arena. Davis and Garcia have fought once apiece at T-Mobile Arena, but on pay-per-view cards that featured Floyd Mayweather and Canelo Alvarez, respectively.

Baltimore’s Davis and Garcia, of Victorville, California, officially announced February 24 through their social media accounts that their Showtime Pay-Per-View main event was set for April 22, a week later than anticipated. April 15 was the targeted date for their fight during much of the prolonged conclusion to their negotiations after Davis stopped Hector Luis Garcia on January 7, but it was pushed back one week.

Davis and Garcia initially announced on social media November 17 that they would fight on an unspecified date in 2023 at an undetermined venue in Las Vegas.

With their fight scheduled for six weeks from Saturday night, Davis and Garcia will participate in two press conferences this week to promote their 12-round, 136-pound bout.

Davis (28-0, 26 KOs) and Garcia (23-0, 19 KOs) will first come face to face Wednesday in Manhattan. They’ll then fly to Los Angeles, where the rivals will participate in another press conference Thursday in Beverly Hills.

They’ll then return to their training camps to continue preparing for the biggest fight on the boxing calendar in the United States this year.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

Post by AngryGoon38 »

I don't like this bout for Garcia's behalf.

I don't have a good feeling about it.

7th round tko is what I'm sensing. Hopefully it's not a Brutal type of loss for Garcia.

Garcia would be better off versus Teo, or Taylor, or Prograis, or even versus Haney.

He Could develop into having the capability to win by a close decision versus Tank.

I just don't see that being a realistic perspective/outcome at this point though.

I think that Garcia is just simply too Green at this point in time. To be able to properly handle the power and pressure of The Mighty Tank Davis. I don't completely count him out though. Especially if his style Really Correlates on his behalf. He may actually have Tank's number. That's how Boxing is at times. Unpredictable and Certain bouts take us by surprise.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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If Garcia loses, it’s not for him.

He dared to be great.

This is 2 of the best fight each other.

We know what both are capable of. Garcia is young, plenty of fights and belts to be won.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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more i think about this the more it Feels like a terrible match up for Garcia, and at a bad weight (big cut but no fake belt), and tank has the rematch clause....

So all those things combined fvcking fair play Garcia taking it. his team must see somthing in it (or mabey its just cash)...

even with a loss I Think garcia could be a real problem at 140. Feel like haney will go to 140 and win belts, but id back 140 garcia vs 140 haney so i just hope if he makes millions and loses he is still motivated to keep at it.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Will be a 2nd weigh in before the fight.

Both can’t come above 146 pounds
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Mar 2023, 17:22 Will be a 2nd weigh in before the fight.

Both can’t come above 146 pounds
fornicating hell. Does Ryan Garcia have gambling debts or somthing? Mad that he has agreed to rehydration clause and rematch clause.

I would of though Garcia has been coming into his last few near 156…
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Mar 2023, 17:22 Will be a 2nd weigh in before the fight.

Both can’t come above 146 pounds
This makes me favour Davis. Garcia will be far from his best but still win..seems more unlikely now.
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Re: Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia | Showtime PPV - April 22, 2023

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If the second weigh-in is at 9 or 10 A.M. then Garcia can put on another 7 or 8 pounds, easily.
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