yeah, i’d get rid of Fly and replace with CruiserAngryGoon38 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:48Flydaz74 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:26I’m old school, take it back to 8 divisions ….AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:20
They Really Do Need to just Go ahead and make a "Junior Cruiserweight division".
176-187 Would be technically idealistic enough, and the Most Straightforward approach.
Or just 175.5-187.5, and then regular Cruiserweight would be 188-200, if we're going for Exact Technical Specificity.
176-200 is just Too Much Gap.
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So, you think that even just a slightly blown up "light heavy-weight" can take on a modern 240-260 lb Heavyweight..?
I know about Michael Spinks defeating Larry Holmes in 1985, and Roy Jones Jr defeating John Ruiz in 2003.
Spinks weighed 197, and Jones Jr weighed 193. Obviously these were still the days where you basically Only needed to weigh 190.5 to be regarded as A HW, and also were still considered to be a Legit enough sized heavyweight, with there being Very few "Size Monsters(250+ lb'ers)". And obviously, Jones Jr would've Never taken on Riddick Bowe or Lennox Lewis. Probably not even Holyfield or Mercer. Ruiz was obviously an especially Safe Opponent. And for Mike Spinks's behalf, Holmes was only around 215 lbs, and starting to decline at that point.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva | Showtime PPV - October 29, 2022
Think it needs a full revamp.daz74 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:26I’m old school, take it back to 8 divisions ….AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:20They Really Do Need to just Go ahead and make a "Junior Cruiserweight division".
176-187 Would be technically idealistic enough, and the Most Straightforward approach.
Or just 175.5-187.5, and then regular Cruiserweight would be 188-200, if we're going for Exact Technical Specificity.
176-200 is just Too Much Gap.
112,115,118,122,126,130 is a joke. But 175-200 is also a joke.
History is fun, but better off really having a think and resetting them sooner rather than later.
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Yeah, I agree with that. If the argument is people are getting bigger, then we don't need a flyweight division anymore. The junior divisions are a freaking joke and accomplish nothing other than keeping good fights from happening. When i bought my first Ring Magazine and noticed 130 LBS and 135 LBS divisions, even a newbie like me knew that was ridiculous.daz74 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:51yeah, i’d get rid of Fly and replace with CruiserAngryGoon38 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 18:48Fly
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Heavyweight
So, you think that even just a slightly blown up "light heavy-weight" can take on a modern 240-260 lb Heavyweight..?
I know about Michael Spinks defeating Larry Holmes in 1985, and Roy Jones Jr defeating John Ruiz in 2003.
Spinks weighed 197, and Jones Jr weighed 193. Obviously these were still the days where you basically Only needed to weigh 190.5 to be regarded as A HW, and also were still considered to be a Legit enough sized heavyweight, with there being Very few "Size Monsters(250+ lb'ers)". And obviously, Jones Jr would've Never taken on Riddick Bowe or Lennox Lewis. Probably not even Holyfield or Mercer. Ruiz was obviously an especially Safe Opponent. And for Mike Spinks's behalf, Holmes was only around 215 lbs, and starting to decline at that point.![]()
Re: Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva | Showtime PPV - October 29, 2022
How about Jake Paul vs Wilder. Let's end this nonsense.
Re: Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva | Showtime PPV - October 29, 2022
really doesn't need wilder for that.
any non geriatric, REAL boxer above 160, not fooling around, real technical sound, real fluid, real boxing fit, really ready, capable & willing to utilize boxing's basic tools offensively & defensively, would do the trick.
nothing wild, basically any real boxer with a decent jab and an accurate follow up shot straight down the pipe who keeps his gloves up and knows how to move around the ring will beat paul.
of course he won't fight a guy like that... maybe ever.
any pro in the top 100 of every division from middleweight up would beat him.
any real boxer.
the key word is REAL.
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Jake Paul says his fight with Anderson Silva did between 200-300,000 pay-per-view buys, which he described as ‘upsetting
Jake Paul is not pleased with the initial pay-per-view projections from his fight with Anderson Silva.
Last weekend, Paul took on Silva, who is the longest reigning champion in UFC history, and beat him by unanimous decision for a career best win.
The event was broadcast on Showtime pay-per-view, but Paul has described the initial projections in terms of buys as ‘upsetting’.
With that being said, the social media star believes it comes down to a number of reasons, from the fight almost being pulled due to Silva getting knocked out in sparring, which he later clarified did not happen.
This was compounded by the fact that Paul previously had two opponents pull out in Tommy Fury and Hasim Rahman Jr, which could have made the fans think that the fight was not going ahead yet again.
Paul also speculated there is an abundance of sport taking place in America at the moment, which could have distracted from his fight.
“I think it will probably go around 200,000 – 300,000 which is kind of upsetting,” Paul said on his brother Logan’s Impaulsive podcast.
“The pre-buys were going crazy. On Wednesday, when the news came out about Anderson saying he got knocked out [in sparring] or whatever, the fight was in jeopardy and all this press came out, the pre-buys tanked."
“The general public sees that and thinks it’s not happening. Tommy [Fury] pulled out, Hasim [Rahman Jr] pulled out,’ Jake Paul can’t get an event together, this is done’.
“It killed ticket sales, we were still selling tickets but that day everything went to zero. It was so annoying.
“Halloween, World Series and Sunday football. This is the worst time of the year to fight but guess what, I had to fight.
“All of my fights from now on will be in the summer, there’s no sports. There’s like this perfect gap in July and early August when there is no sports.
“All my other fights were during Covid when no one had anything to do and anything to watch. NBA, NFL, nothing was on.
“I had to fight this year, I just had to get it f****** done. I was tired of waiting around.”
Jake Paul is not pleased with the initial pay-per-view projections from his fight with Anderson Silva.
Last weekend, Paul took on Silva, who is the longest reigning champion in UFC history, and beat him by unanimous decision for a career best win.
The event was broadcast on Showtime pay-per-view, but Paul has described the initial projections in terms of buys as ‘upsetting’.
With that being said, the social media star believes it comes down to a number of reasons, from the fight almost being pulled due to Silva getting knocked out in sparring, which he later clarified did not happen.
This was compounded by the fact that Paul previously had two opponents pull out in Tommy Fury and Hasim Rahman Jr, which could have made the fans think that the fight was not going ahead yet again.
Paul also speculated there is an abundance of sport taking place in America at the moment, which could have distracted from his fight.
“I think it will probably go around 200,000 – 300,000 which is kind of upsetting,” Paul said on his brother Logan’s Impaulsive podcast.
“The pre-buys were going crazy. On Wednesday, when the news came out about Anderson saying he got knocked out [in sparring] or whatever, the fight was in jeopardy and all this press came out, the pre-buys tanked."
“The general public sees that and thinks it’s not happening. Tommy [Fury] pulled out, Hasim [Rahman Jr] pulled out,’ Jake Paul can’t get an event together, this is done’.
“It killed ticket sales, we were still selling tickets but that day everything went to zero. It was so annoying.
“Halloween, World Series and Sunday football. This is the worst time of the year to fight but guess what, I had to fight.
“All of my fights from now on will be in the summer, there’s no sports. There’s like this perfect gap in July and early August when there is no sports.
“All my other fights were during Covid when no one had anything to do and anything to watch. NBA, NFL, nothing was on.
“I had to fight this year, I just had to get it f****** done. I was tired of waiting around.”