Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 05:00
Still absolutely nuts that 4 of his last 7 fights were against Crawford, GGG, Khan and Spence.
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Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 15:58
Crawford . GGG , Spence , 3 possible hall of famers , Khan for a last payday , and retire very rich ,, I would say to Brook what the hell you got to prove stay retired and sit on the beach somewhere , stay away from spanish beaches though
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:07
Eubank jr him no thanks
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 17:01
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 17:55
amazing when you list it like that. do you think he will return?
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 18:23
I don’t think he’ll come back unless they offer him crazy money. He might as well keep his name relevant when interviewed.
His only losses have come to hall of famers, as a fan of his I really don’t want to see him get beat by someone like Benn just because he’s past it.
His only losses have come to hall of famers, as a fan of his I really don’t want to see him get beat by someone like Benn just because he’s past it.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 18:56
me neither.a force wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 18:23 I don’t think he’ll come back unless they offer him crazy money. He might as well keep his name relevant when interviewed.
His only losses have come to hall of famers, as a fan of his I really don’t want to see him get beat by someone like Benn just because he’s past it.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 10:21
Brook was a good fighter but don’t want him to fight jr
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 10:41
Brook was a great fighter .he beat khan he has nothing to else to prove
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 10:42
Fighting eubank jr why ?
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:32
££££££
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:36
A risk for him
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:36
A big risk for him
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:42
for Eubank? I dont think hes bothered about belts.Craighmfc1874 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 14:36A big risk for him
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:42
Yeh eubankSeanBrennan wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 14:42for Eubank? I dont think hes bothered about belts.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:43
That seems to be the case
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:43
That seems to be the caseCraighmfc1874 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 14:42Yeh eubank
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:47
Obviously I know nothing, but it looks to me that he solely driven by money. I've read he's turned down eliminators etc before. Solely driven by money. Not judging that at all, he has made more money than most champions. He has won quite a few titles albeit some dubious - British title, 2 x IBO, 2 X WBA Interim.Craighmfc1874 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 14:42Yeh eubank
Boxrec have him as number 1 in the world, Smith at 2 - that is utterly mental
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 14:55
I agreeSeanBrennan wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 14:47Obviously I know nothing, but it looks to me that he solely driven by money. I've read he's turned down eliminators etc before. Solely driven by money. Not judging that at all, he has made more money than most champions. He has won quite a few titles albeit some dubious - British title, 2 x IBO, 2 X WBA Interim.
Boxrec have him as number 1 in the world, Smith at 2 - that is utterly mental
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 05:29
Kell Brook: "Golovkin Fight Damaged Me, It Changed Me, Should Have Withdrew From Spence Bout"
“That was the first time that someone got in my head before a fight,” said Brook. “I remember being in the hotel room thinking, ‘I’m fighting Golovkin…tonight.’
“I honestly started to doubt myself, I remember me and my nutritionist were in a hotel room at the time and I didn’t say I’d lose, but I said to him, ‘I can win this fight, can’t I?’. That was me straight away saying it out loud and it was negative, I was doubting myself.
“In the weeks leading up to the fight, all I’d seen were videos of Golovkin knocking everyone out, and they were all middleweights. It then dawned on me that I was fighting him in a few hours.
“A lot of it is in the mind – it’s the law of attraction – if you really believe something like I’m going to win the title with everything I’ve got, you can go out and do it – and I did. But for the first time [in my career], I was negative and subsequently was handed my first defeat.”
Brook said: “Looking back at it, Gennady Golovkin was an absolute monster, he was someone who was unbeaten and believed he could beat any man – even at middleweight. I always thought that I could box him and keep out of the way, and that I was better, but as we know, it didn’t go down like that. It damaged me and it changed me.
“When he broke my eye, the surgeon said to me that one more big shot and I could’ve been blind and could’ve lost my eye, and that hit home big time. Those same feelings resurfaced when I boxed Errol Spence Jnr.
“I knew something terrible had happened with Golovkin, it was like a crab claw being crushed, I could hear it and I could feel it. The adrenaline was rushing but I knew something wasn’t right.
“It wasn’t so much the pain, but it was what it did to my vision, it was frightening. It’s always frightening when you’ve got someone with that power against a wounded animal. It was scary.”
“Losing had a big impact the first time, but the second loss was the biggest one for me,” said Brook. “I think because Golovkin was a unified middleweight beast that other middleweights weren’t even fighting, it wasn’t as bad. I still lost though and was absolutely devastated, but what really destroyed me was losing to Errol Spence Jnr.
“If I hadn’t lost to Golovkin I think I would have had a 100 percent better chance of beating Spence. On top of losing, I had the added pressure to make middleweight. After that fight I was a middleweight, and I had my eye broken.
“Eddie Hearn offered me the option of giving up my title because at the time I had to make the weight in a short period – to which I said, ‘absolutely not, I’ve earnt this title and you’ve got to kill me to take it!’
“The training camp for the Spence Jnr. fight was terrible, I was carrying all of this extra weight. I wanted to be completely and utterly focused, but I was having problems with my trainer who was dealing with things at home. Everything was wrong going into that fight.
“I got to the fight and my family were telling me I needed to pull out, but we’d sold all the tickets and I’d done my training. In my own mind I was thinking, ‘I’m going to make this weight, I’ve got a fight and I’m a fighter’. Looking back, it was one fight I wish I had pulled out of.
“I had to question myself after that fight, asking myself am I really good enough. I started thinking about retirement, I hit a really low point in my life and in my career. I was around 30 and I just thought, losing in my weight category against Spence was a tough pill to swallow especially when I believed in myself and I was a world champion – it was my lowest point.”
“That was the first time that someone got in my head before a fight,” said Brook. “I remember being in the hotel room thinking, ‘I’m fighting Golovkin…tonight.’
“I honestly started to doubt myself, I remember me and my nutritionist were in a hotel room at the time and I didn’t say I’d lose, but I said to him, ‘I can win this fight, can’t I?’. That was me straight away saying it out loud and it was negative, I was doubting myself.
“In the weeks leading up to the fight, all I’d seen were videos of Golovkin knocking everyone out, and they were all middleweights. It then dawned on me that I was fighting him in a few hours.
“A lot of it is in the mind – it’s the law of attraction – if you really believe something like I’m going to win the title with everything I’ve got, you can go out and do it – and I did. But for the first time [in my career], I was negative and subsequently was handed my first defeat.”
Brook said: “Looking back at it, Gennady Golovkin was an absolute monster, he was someone who was unbeaten and believed he could beat any man – even at middleweight. I always thought that I could box him and keep out of the way, and that I was better, but as we know, it didn’t go down like that. It damaged me and it changed me.
“When he broke my eye, the surgeon said to me that one more big shot and I could’ve been blind and could’ve lost my eye, and that hit home big time. Those same feelings resurfaced when I boxed Errol Spence Jnr.
“I knew something terrible had happened with Golovkin, it was like a crab claw being crushed, I could hear it and I could feel it. The adrenaline was rushing but I knew something wasn’t right.
“It wasn’t so much the pain, but it was what it did to my vision, it was frightening. It’s always frightening when you’ve got someone with that power against a wounded animal. It was scary.”
“Losing had a big impact the first time, but the second loss was the biggest one for me,” said Brook. “I think because Golovkin was a unified middleweight beast that other middleweights weren’t even fighting, it wasn’t as bad. I still lost though and was absolutely devastated, but what really destroyed me was losing to Errol Spence Jnr.
“If I hadn’t lost to Golovkin I think I would have had a 100 percent better chance of beating Spence. On top of losing, I had the added pressure to make middleweight. After that fight I was a middleweight, and I had my eye broken.
“Eddie Hearn offered me the option of giving up my title because at the time I had to make the weight in a short period – to which I said, ‘absolutely not, I’ve earnt this title and you’ve got to kill me to take it!’
“The training camp for the Spence Jnr. fight was terrible, I was carrying all of this extra weight. I wanted to be completely and utterly focused, but I was having problems with my trainer who was dealing with things at home. Everything was wrong going into that fight.
“I got to the fight and my family were telling me I needed to pull out, but we’d sold all the tickets and I’d done my training. In my own mind I was thinking, ‘I’m going to make this weight, I’ve got a fight and I’m a fighter’. Looking back, it was one fight I wish I had pulled out of.
“I had to question myself after that fight, asking myself am I really good enough. I started thinking about retirement, I hit a really low point in my life and in my career. I was around 30 and I just thought, losing in my weight category against Spence was a tough pill to swallow especially when I believed in myself and I was a world champion – it was my lowest point.”
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 12:10
fair points from Kell, it was a horrific injury. You're going to be tentative after that.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 20:52
He should have never taken the fight, and this isn't hindsight talking, plenty were saying it at the time, some terrible advice he received to get him to take it, we'll never know what Brook could've achieved at 147 because of that.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 12:10 fair points from Kell, it was a horrific injury. You're going to be tentative after that.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 07:08
Indeed. Did Ingle train him for this one? I know he used that retired pro for a fight or two. To save money iirc.The_Don1 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 20:52He should have never taken the fight, and this isn't hindsight talking, plenty were saying it at the time, some terrible advice he received to get him to take it, we'll never know what Brook could've achieved at 147 because of that.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 12:10 fair points from Kell, it was a horrific injury. You're going to be tentative after that.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 07:15
yeh,..SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2024, 07:08Indeed. Did Ingle train him for this one? I know he used that retired pro for a fight or two. To save money iirc.The_Don1 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 20:52He should have never taken the fight, and this isn't hindsight talking, plenty were saying it at the time, some terrible advice he received to get him to take it, we'll never know what Brook could've achieved at 147 because of that.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 12:10 fair points from Kell, it was a horrific injury. You're going to be tentative after that.
It was for Zerafa and Crawford he didn't use Ingle.
Re: Kell Brook might be returning
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 07:16
thanks for clarifying Ruthless, appreciated.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 Jan 2024, 07:15yeh,..SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2024, 07:08Indeed. Did Ingle train him for this one? I know he used that retired pro for a fight or two. To save money iirc.
It was for Zerafa and Crawford he didn't use Ingle.