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Posted: **01 May 2023, 01:18**

high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.

If you're conservative you're automatically labeled racist.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 07:04**

high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.

Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 07:59**

joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04
high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.
Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.

Unfortunately for you, he does tend to be right. For example, when only 300 people came over on dinghies in 2018, he said there would be a flood. Last year 46,000 came over on dinghies. He said in a debate with Nick Clegg, which was denied by Clegg, that there would be a European Army. The framework for a European Army is being considered. He said Trump would win in 2016. He was right. He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right. Call him what you like, and he is marmite, but real politicians with true policy convictions are. He also likes boxing and so does Trump.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 08:24**

Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:59
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04
high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.
Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.
Unfortunately for you, he does tend to be right. For example, when only 300 people came over on dinghies in 2018, he said there would be a flood. Last year 46,000 came over on dinghies. He said in a debate with Nick Clegg, which was denied by Clegg, that there would be a European Army. The framework for a European Army is being considered. He said Trump would win in 2016. He was right. He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right. Call him what you like, and he is marmite, but real politicians with true policy convictions are. He also likes boxing and so does Trump.

He wasn’t right though was he? By your own admission. Those things were meant to happen if we DIDN’T vote leave.

He said Brexit would allow us to take back control of our borders. But despite a hard Brexit, and the most xenophobic British government in living memory, we have record migration.

Unfortunately you cannot solve global problems (poverty, migration) as an island state.

On the other subjects, the European Army has been mooted for years in various forms. I remember it being discussed when I worked in government (in a very junior capacity) at the turn of the Century.

If it did ever exist there would be an opt out. Don’t get me started on Nick Clegg - him and Cameron put up the weakest argument in favour of remain and plonked us in this mess. (I’m guessing my desired outcome was different to yours).

Predicting Trumps win doesn’t make him Nostradamus. He also predicted he would get re-elected.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 09:07**

Frostieballs wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 08:24
Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:59
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04

Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.
Unfortunately for you, he does tend to be right. For example, when only 300 people came over on dinghies in 2018, he said there would be a flood. Last year 46,000 came over on dinghies. He said in a debate with Nick Clegg, which was denied by Clegg, that there would be a European Army. The framework for a European Army is being considered. He said Trump would win in 2016. He was right. He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right. Call him what you like, and he is marmite, but real politicians with true policy convictions are. He also likes boxing and so does Trump.
He wasn’t right though was he? By your own logic.

He said Brexit would allow us to take back control of our borders. But despite a hard Brexit, and the most xenophobic British government in living memory, we have record migration.

Unfortunately you cannot solve global problems (poverty, migration) as an island state.

On the other subjects, the European Army has been mooted for years in various forms. I remember it being discussed when I worked in government (in a very junior capacity) at the turn of the Century.

If it did ever exist there would be an opt out. Don’t get me started on Nick Clegg - him and Cameron put up the weakest argument in favour of remain and plonked us in this mess. (I’m guessing my desired outcome was different to yours).

Predicting Trumps win doesn’t make him Nostradamus. He also predicted he would get re-elected.

Considering Hilary was odds on to win in 2016, Farage was right about Trump.

With the European Army, Europhile Clegg said it wasn't on the cards in a live debate.

Yes, he did say we could control our borders However, this Government refuses to do so and that is the reason why we have record levels of immigration. There is a difference between words and actions.

I want our laws passed in this country, not Brussels. No different to what left wingers Tony Benn and Peter Shore wanted. What is so despicable about that.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 09:25**

joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04
high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.
Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.

Problem is the birdbrains that defend him are too thick to understand how racists can be subtle with their abuse. Not that farage is particularly subtle, however you dont have to use the 'n' word or use particularly toxic words to be a racist. It's all in the message, the point of it, the rhetoric. Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially. He's very quiet about rich people sending their money offshore to avoid paying taxes. However he is very loud at blaming asylum seekers for the ills of the UK. Brits love to punch down and the birdbrains who support snakes like farage are too stupid to see how they have been manipulated. Im done on this topic now, so if anyone feels like replying to continue backing frogface then fill yer boots birdbrains I'll just ignore them.Toodle pip.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 10:43**

blanca wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:25
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04
high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.
Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.
Problem is the birdbrains that defend him are too thick to understand how racists can be subtle with their abuse. Not that farage is particularly subtle, however you dont have to use the 'n' word or use particularly toxic words to be a racist. It's all in the message, the point of it, the rhetoric. Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially. He's very quiet about rich people sending their money offshore to avoid paying taxes. However he is very loud at blaming asylum seekers for the ills of the UK. Brits love to punch down and the birdbrains who support snakes like farage are too stupid to see how they have been manipulated. Im done on this topic now, so if anyone feels like replying to continue backing frogface then fill yer boots birdbrains I'll just ignore them.Toodle pip.

For someone who talks about ignoring a situation, you do a lot of talking. The topics you talk about are subjects your hero Starmer is strangely silent on. Farage does talk a lot about helping the engine room of the British economy which are Small and Medium Enterprises. I don't hear Starmer doing that. That must be his birdbrained racism again.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 12:37**

There is no real point in arguing politics. Nobody is going to change their opinions. At least with boxing you may read something that might make you change your mind on a fight or fighter but Farage lovers are always going to be Farage lovers and Farage haters are always going to be Farage haters. It's boring.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 13:59**

lol no kidding, take it to the politics section bruhs . dudes here said they want to talk boxing not politics, then wont shut up about politics

Posted: **01 May 2023, 17:13**

blanca wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:25
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04
high tower 1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:17 Where has Farage been racist ? Being anti EU and against illegal immigration doesn’t make him a racist.

I find him Irritating and he seems an untrustworthy sort , but I don’t get how he’s racist.
Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.
Problem is the birdbrains that defend him are too thick to understand how racists can be subtle with their abuse. Not that farage is particularly subtle, however you dont have to use the 'n' word or use particularly toxic words to be a racist. It's all in the message, the point of it, the rhetoric. Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially. He's very quiet about rich people sending their money offshore to avoid paying taxes. However he is very loud at blaming asylum seekers for the ills of the UK. Brits love to punch down and the birdbrains who support snakes like farage are too stupid to see how they have been manipulated. Im done on this topic now, so if anyone feels like replying to continue backing frogface then fill yer boots birdbrains I'll just ignore them.Toodle pip.

Very defensive and aggressive. If you’re defending mass illegal immigration then you are the birdbrain. Let’s bring in almost 50,000 illegals on dinghies every year - many who have destroyed their identities and come from broken counties with no links the the UK - what could possibly go wrong ?? It annoys me when discussing very serious issues like that get shouted down by racism accusations.

Posted: **01 May 2023, 17:20**

Posted: **01 May 2023, 19:01**

Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:07
Frostieballs wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 08:24
Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:59

Unfortunately for you, he does tend to be right. For example, when only 300 people came over on dinghies in 2018, he said there would be a flood. Last year 46,000 came over on dinghies. He said in a debate with Nick Clegg, which was denied by Clegg, that there would be a European Army. The framework for a European Army is being considered. He said Trump would win in 2016. He was right. He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right. Call him what you like, and he is marmite, but real politicians with true policy convictions are. He also likes boxing and so does Trump.
He wasn’t right though was he? By your own logic.

He said Brexit would allow us to take back control of our borders. But despite a hard Brexit, and the most xenophobic British government in living memory, we have record migration.

Unfortunately you cannot solve global problems (poverty, migration) as an island state.

On the other subjects, the European Army has been mooted for years in various forms. I remember it being discussed when I worked in government (in a very junior capacity) at the turn of the Century.

If it did ever exist there would be an opt out. Don’t get me started on Nick Clegg - him and Cameron put up the weakest argument in favour of remain and plonked us in this mess. (I’m guessing my desired outcome was different to yours).

Predicting Trumps win doesn’t make him Nostradamus. He also predicted he would get re-elected.
Considering Hilary was odds on to win in 2016, Farage was right about Trump.

With the European Army, Europhile Clegg said it wasn't on the cards in a live debate.

Yes, he did say we could control our borders However, this Government refuses to do so and that is the reason why we have record levels of immigration. There is a difference between words and actions.

I want our laws passed in this country, not Brussels. No different to what left wingers Tony Benn and Peter Shore wanted. What is so despicable about that.

Nothing despicable mate. I just don’t agree we sacrificed that much sovereignty - less than 15% of our laws were set by the EU and in my opinion the majority were required to support a successful customs Union.

I could point to dozens of lies Farage has told and things he has got wrong, but as others have said probably best off topic.

Before signing off from this thread though, I would like to say that we don’t always have to demonise migration. It isn’t just about being kind or taken advantage of, it can also be economically beneficial in many circumstances.

Industries are closing here because of a lack of staff. We also have an ageing population that we need to support, so growing the younger workforce is essential.

Posted: **02 May 2023, 06:44**

Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:59 He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right.

says who?

Posted: **02 May 2023, 06:46**

blanca wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:25 Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially.

Posted: **02 May 2023, 08:19**

Is this pointless thread still going ?

Let me guess, the argument has been reduced to 'racists are human beings too y'know'

Obviously I haven't followed Conteh's interview with Farridge but regardless of the content he's fairly innocent due to the fact he's spent his life being punched in the head.

Posted: **02 May 2023, 11:41**

too much talk about fromage, not enough talk about how utterly sexy john is

Posted: **02 May 2023, 12:40**

Sucking up to the owner of Boxrec ain't gonna get you unbanned from the Off Topic section Maggie.

Posted: **02 May 2023, 13:05**

shhh dont reveal my strategy

Posted: **02 May 2023, 14:06**

high tower 1 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:13
blanca wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:25
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:04

Ask him what he calls a Chinese takeaway. However, racism isn't just saying specific racist words or phrases, his overall xenophobia, finger pointing at specific groups, stereotyping and collective labelling is racist behaviour.
Problem is the birdbrains that defend him are too thick to understand how racists can be subtle with their abuse. Not that farage is particularly subtle, however you dont have to use the 'n' word or use particularly toxic words to be a racist. It's all in the message, the point of it, the rhetoric. Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially. He's very quiet about rich people sending their money offshore to avoid paying taxes. However he is very loud at blaming asylum seekers for the ills of the UK. Brits love to punch down and the birdbrains who support snakes like farage are too stupid to see how they have been manipulated. Im done on this topic now, so if anyone feels like replying to continue backing frogface then fill yer boots birdbrains I'll just ignore them.Toodle pip.
Very defensive and aggressive. If you’re defending mass illegal immigration then you are the birdbrain. Let’s bring in almost 50,000 illegals on dinghies every year - many who have destroyed their identities and come from broken counties with no links the the UK - what could possibly go wrong ?? It annoys me when discussing very serious issues like that get shouted down by racism accusations.

By definition nobody is willingly endorsing 'illegals' are they? If you support it, you support controlled legal migration.

Did your other brain cell die of lonliness?

Posted: **02 May 2023, 14:13**

Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:07
Frostieballs wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 08:24
Callowland wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 07:59

Unfortunately for you, he does tend to be right. For example, when only 300 people came over on dinghies in 2018, he said there would be a flood. Last year 46,000 came over on dinghies. He said in a debate with Nick Clegg, which was denied by Clegg, that there would be a European Army. The framework for a European Army is being considered. He said Trump would win in 2016. He was right. He called out the Government for providing no help for people during Covid for those who work outside of IR35. He was right. Call him what you like, and he is marmite, but real politicians with true policy convictions are. He also likes boxing and so does Trump.
He wasn’t right though was he? By your own logic.

He said Brexit would allow us to take back control of our borders. But despite a hard Brexit, and the most xenophobic British government in living memory, we have record migration.

Unfortunately you cannot solve global problems (poverty, migration) as an island state.

On the other subjects, the European Army has been mooted for years in various forms. I remember it being discussed when I worked in government (in a very junior capacity) at the turn of the Century.

If it did ever exist there would be an opt out. Don’t get me started on Nick Clegg - him and Cameron put up the weakest argument in favour of remain and plonked us in this mess. (I’m guessing my desired outcome was different to yours).

Predicting Trumps win doesn’t make him Nostradamus. He also predicted he would get re-elected.
Considering Hilary was odds on to win in 2016, Farage was right about Trump.

With the European Army, Europhile Clegg said it wasn't on the cards in a live debate.

Yes, he did say we could control our borders However, this Government refuses to do so and that is the reason why we have record levels of immigration. There is a difference between words and actions.

I want our laws passed in this country, not Brussels. No different to what left wingers Tony Benn and Peter Shore wanted. What is so despicable about that.

Most of our Laws are and were passed in the UK, we had a joint say and were signataries to other join european laws, and in fact, many of the Europe wide laws, were ratified or even initialized in the UK.

The government is not investing in the infrastructure to defend out borders, nor acting in good faith with our neighbours and partners in Europe.

There are other reasons for mass migration, the destabilisaiton of Iraq and Syria, and the destruction of Libya, mean that there's now migrants pouring out across the border from libya and crossing into Europe in record numbers. Libya used to take in huge numbers of refugees and economic migrants prior to Gaddafi being offed.

Posted: **02 May 2023, 18:28**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 14:06
high tower 1 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:13
blanca wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 09:25
Problem is the birdbrains that defend him are too thick to understand how racists can be subtle with their abuse. Not that farage is particularly subtle, however you dont have to use the 'n' word or use particularly toxic words to be a racist. It's all in the message, the point of it, the rhetoric. Farage plays on the birdbrains fear of the 'other'. He stokes the fire of xenophobia and racism to direct the travel of political discourse. He's very quiet about the 'invasion' of russian oligarchs in the UK, London especially. He's very quiet about rich people sending their money offshore to avoid paying taxes. However he is very loud at blaming asylum seekers for the ills of the UK. Brits love to punch down and the birdbrains who support snakes like farage are too stupid to see how they have been manipulated. Im done on this topic now, so if anyone feels like replying to continue backing frogface then fill yer boots birdbrains I'll just ignore them.Toodle pip.
Very defensive and aggressive. If you’re defending mass illegal immigration then you are the birdbrain. Let’s bring in almost 50,000 illegals on dinghies every year - many who have destroyed their identities and come from broken counties with no links the the UK - what could possibly go wrong ?? It annoys me when discussing very serious issues like that get shouted down by racism accusations.
By definition nobody is willingly endorsing 'illegals' are they? If you support it, you support controlled legal migration.

Did your other brain cell die of lonliness?

What are you on about you absolute moron.

Do you even know the difference between a migrant invited here to work in one of our
Industries providing a vital skill and some chancer who’s rode a dinghy over the channel despite the fact he’s travelled from France (a safe country) and more than likely also comes from another safe country eg Albania??

Posted: **03 May 2023, 03:07**

high tower 1 wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 18:28
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 14:06
high tower 1 wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:13

Very defensive and aggressive. If you’re defending mass illegal immigration then you are the birdbrain. Let’s bring in almost 50,000 illegals on dinghies every year - many who have destroyed their identities and come from broken counties with no links the the UK - what could possibly go wrong ?? It annoys me when discussing very serious issues like that get shouted down by racism accusations.
By definition nobody is willingly endorsing 'illegals' are they? If you support it, you support controlled legal migration.

Did your other brain cell die of lonliness?
What are you on about you absolute moron.

Do you even know the difference between a migrant invited here to work in one of our
Industries providing a vital skill and some chancer who’s rode a dinghy over the channel despite the fact he’s travelled from France (a safe country) and more than likely also comes from another safe country eg Albania??

You don't even understand basic reading comprehension. You're beyond help.

Posted: **03 May 2023, 03:16**

this is why we cant have nice things

Posted: **03 May 2023, 03:19**

Your post made no sense. You have nothing to contribute except little snipes , which is typical.

To answer your question plenty of people clearly do support illegal migration - as evidenced on this thread through being called a racist if you question it.

Posted: **08 May 2023, 11:28**

Little Englanders will Little England.

Wait, does Farage not live in Germany with his foreign family and the likes of Tommy Robinson have taken the grift money to
Spain??

I wonder do the Spanish get fed up with this many British and Irish dregs running around

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