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Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 13:46
by TheLeprechaun
Coco wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 09:15

My word, what was the chap thinking. Cooper was a seasoned pro and that chap looks like he had a few fights in a car park. Unbelievable to think you can get in there with Cooper. The lad could have gotten seriously hurt there once Cooper realised he was in with a complete plank. I suppose some lads need that hiding in order to gain some perspective.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 14:19
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:44
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 06:48
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 06:38

He had a lion in the camp.
So Yarde had a trainer in camp, but Fury didn't? Are you sure your boy's wasn't lying? Word round the campfire is Fury failed another drug test.
Did the Knitting Circle have to hire a man to light the fire for them?
I am merely asking you questions, darling. Why did Yarde have a trainer in camp, but not Fury?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 14:30
by BigDoofus
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 14:19
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:44
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 06:48

So Yarde had a trainer in camp, but Fury didn't? Are you sure your boy's wasn't lying? Word round the campfire is Fury failed another drug test.
Did the Knitting Circle have to hire a man to light the fire for them?
I am merely asking you questions, darling. Why did Yarde have a trainer in camp, but not Fury?
Do you think that Hill not being in Morecambe prevented the Ngannou fight being made?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 14:42
by The Gratest
Fight?? You mean shite! :lol:
Ngannou's never boxed before Doofy. Just shows how little you know, comparing getting ready to fight unified HW champ Usyk to fighting a boxing novice :doh:
Do you ever tire of clowning yourself for the sake of your undying love for Fury?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 16:43
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 14:30
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 14:19
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:44

Did the Knitting Circle have to hire a man to light the fire for them?
I am merely asking you questions, darling. Why did Yarde have a trainer in camp, but not Fury?
Do you think that Hill not being in Morecambe prevented the Ngannou fight being made?
I get it, you're saying a boxer doesn't need to be in training unless he has a fight scheduled, That is what you're saying isn't it, darling?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 23:58
by Kilburn
Grilling Machine wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 22:42
Kilburn wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 03:20I’m no fan of this “event” but Ngannou is definitely capable of producing more speed than what’s on display in those clips.
But not without expending enough energy to see him blowing after two. When this was announced we expected an agreed spar, but from what we've seen of Ngannou it feels as risk-free for Fury as it gets.

He lost in standup to Derrick Lewis, who'd be an underdog against Chisora.
I’m merely pointing out that Ngannou will be quicker on the night than those clips suggest, whatever that is worth.

Ngannou v Lewis was an absolute non event a few years back where neither really turned up on the night, 30 punches landing over 15 minutes. Ngannou would be a heavy favourite if they were matched again now.

I know it won’t happen but I’d love Ngannou to knock Fury out, in the absence of being to able to slam him on the floor and embarrass him.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 01:24
by Gran Hermano
Monzon83 wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 20:02
Steveh583 wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 13:58 do u think mike is actually training the mma guy or is it all promo?
I think it’s definitely partly promotional to help hype the fight.
He’s doing a bit in the gym usually when the cameras are there.
Wonder how much he's getting paid

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44
by Jack B
Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
by SeanBrennan
Jack B wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44 Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?
I think it's a proper boxing fight in terms of sanctioning mate

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
by SeanBrennan
not in terms of performance....

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 15:58
by Jack B
SeanBrennan wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
Jack B wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44 Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?
I think it's a proper boxing fight in terms of sanctioning mate
Nothing on BoxRec's schedule...

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 16:01
by Frostieballs
SeanBrennan wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
Jack B wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44 Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?
I think it's a proper boxing fight in terms of sanctioning mate
No it isn’t. It won’t appear on Tyson’s record.

This isn’t a fight.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 20:39
by Monzon83
Frostieballs wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 16:01
SeanBrennan wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
Jack B wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44 Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?
I think it's a proper boxing fight in terms of sanctioning mate
No it isn’t. It won’t appear on Tyson’s record.

This isn’t a fight.
Which makes the fact it’s on PPV even more ludicrous.

It should an exhibition for charity, that might be understandable. Presenting it as a fight is a disgrace.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 02:53
by ironbeard
Blubbo will be Blubbo.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 14:28
by SeanBrennan
Frostieballs wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 16:01
SeanBrennan wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:50
Jack B wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 15:44 Is this fight going to be listed on BoxRec? Is the card? Is any official commission sanctioning it?
I think it's a proper boxing fight in terms of sanctioning mate
No it isn’t. It won’t appear on Tyson’s record.

This isn’t a fight.
fire enough, I got it wrong. thanks for clarifying.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 15:48
by MasterG
Just out of interest. Is there a rule that allows pro debutants fight for a world title?

Has the WBC changed its rule policy prior to this fight to allow a pro debutant fight for this title, or is the title not on the line, if so what is the ruling from the WBC regarding a title defence?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 15:59
by jwfg
MasterG wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 15:48 Just out of interest. Is there a rule that allows pro debutants fight for a world title?

Has the WBC changed its rule policy prior to this fight to allow a pro debutant fight for this title, or is the title not on the line, if so what is the ruling from the WBC regarding a title defence?
I'm pretty sure WBC rules mean he can't fight non-title fights and that's why this isn't on his record like Mayweather-McGregor.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 16:21
by Coco
MasterG wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 15:48 Just out of interest. Is there a rule that allows pro debutants fight for a world title?

Has the WBC changed its rule policy prior to this fight to allow a pro debutant fight for this title, or is the title not on the line, if so what is the ruling from the WBC regarding a title defence?
Peter Rademacher fought Floyd Patterson in his debut, but then he was an Olympic champ and had boxed all his life

Lomochenko needed to wait until his 2nd or 3rd fight

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 16:46
by SeanBrennan
so is this not a proper sanctioned fight on any sanctioning body?

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 17:09
by jamesmcdonnell
big lennox wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 12:48 John Fury's thoughts. Totally agree with him:

If its such a disgrace why I's his son fighting him


What a joke.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:08
by Frostieballs
MasterG wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 15:48 Just out of interest. Is there a rule that allows pro debutants fight for a world title?

Has the WBC changed its rule policy prior to this fight to allow a pro debutant fight for this title, or is the title not on the line, if so what is the ruling from the WBC regarding a title defence?
The title is definitely not in the line!

Fury’s undefeated record isn’t on the line.

This isn’t a fight. There is no sanctioning - from anybody. No regulatory body, no governing body.

This is an exhibition.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:09
by Frostieballs
SeanBrennan wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 16:46 so is this not a proper sanctioned fight on any sanctioning body?
No Sean. It isn’t.

It isn’t any kind of fight. It’s an exhibition.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 03:41
by BigDoofus
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:09
big lennox wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 12:48 John Fury's thoughts. Totally agree with him:

If its such a disgrace why I's his son fighting him


What a joke.
He did offer the fight for the WBC title to Joshua who wasn’t interested. You falsely claimed that Joshua had another fight signed.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 03:45
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 03:41
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:09
big lennox wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 12:48 John Fury's thoughts. Totally agree with him:

If its such a disgrace why I's his son fighting him


What a joke.
He did offer the fight for the WBC title to Joshua who wasn’t interested. You falsely claimed that Joshua had another fight signed.
Worth remembering that Joshua did agree to face Fury previously. Fury agreed to face Joshua too, only to pull out and box Wilder for a third time.

Re: Fury vs Ngannou

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 04:04
by MasterG
At what point according to rules of WBC Fury has to make a defence? Without looking at his record not sure when he made his last defence but surely he has to defend it at some point. What is the ruling on title defence, has Fury obliged that rule?