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BubiScholz wrote:Of course some british boxing fans care about a Williams-Skelton-fight for the British title. but the rest of the world doesn´t care. this title has no international meaning.

so why the frigg do you come into a thread named "williams and skelton" just to tell us you dont care?

in fact every thread related to them you have posted how crap they are etc etc etc ?

it isnt named Danny williams next world champ is it? Its named williams and skelton we know you dont rate them you dont have to tellus 3 or 4 times in multiple threads mate.

or are we not permitted to discuss the fight?

Yer....fack off yer bleedin' kraaaat!

Only kidding.

this thread was made BEFORE the fight. I made a comment about it and you guys attacked me because of the first sentence. even one guy brought the fornicating war in. how often were you guys saying that one of the boxers I like are shit? that has been normal in the last 2 years. Krasniqi was shit, Abraham was shit etc.. Now I just said that the actual British heavyweight belt has no international meaning..........

on the other thread I said that Williams won´t get a title fight etc....... Is this also forbidden?

I never gave up a comment on the "How was the fight/scoring -thread" and never will because I have not seen the fight. I was never discussing the fight.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yer....fack off yer bleedin' kraaaat!

Only kidding.

Im not attackign you Bubi, nor did I mention the war.

such comments hsould be held in the contempt they deserve.

However the posts you have made in this thread have been

1. who cares about the brtish title
or
2 Both these guys are shit.


Now fine I dont mind the 2nd comment and you explained the first but you are repeating yourself accross threads re williams and skleton..

I never said Kraniq was shit, I thought Ikeke was going to box the head of Abraham and I was wrong and said as much and gave credit to Abraham who looks now to be the business. (I just wasnt overtyly impressed when I saw him box Eastman and thats all I had to go on).


theres no need however to turn everyhting into anti german issue, cos I dont think like that , however you arent gonna win yourself many friends by slating the belt being contested nor the fighters involved constantly.

just friendly advice

J wrote:Im not attackign you Bubi, nor did I mention the war.

such comments hsould be held in the contempt they deserve.

However the posts you have made in this thread have been

1. who cares about the brtish title
or
2 Both these guys are shit.


Now fine I dont mind the 2nd comment and you explained the first but you are repeating yourself accross threads re williams and skleton..

I never said Kraniq was shit, I thought Ikeke was going to box the head of Abraham and I was wrong and said as much and gave credit to Abraham who looks now to be the business. (I just wasnt overtyly impressed when I saw him box Eastman and thats all I had to go on).


theres no need however to turn everyhting into anti german issue, cos I dont think like that , however you arent gonna win yourself many friends by slating the belt being contested nor the fighters involved constantly.

just friendly advice

i am only responding on comments concerning my statements.

I didn´t mean you personally and you know that. But what about the majority here?

Almost everybody was laughing about my statements concerning e.g. Krasniqi or Abraham BEFORE they were successful. And I´m still here. But I am the only german guy. Why? Think about that.

BubiScholz wrote:J, it´s just a fact that actually the Biritish heavyweight scene is beyond the rest of Europe. It is hard for you guys to realise after the best british heavy generation (Lewis,Hide,Bruno) retired.......

At least we don't need to import all our fighters from Eastern Europe and then try and pretend that they are 'our own' fighters.
Just because you see your own national title as meaningless does not make the British title meaningless also. And before you try and lump in the British and even Commonwealth titles in with your German International title and the WBU titles you should try and look at the history of the British and Commonwealth titles...

silkov wrote: ... who won the war anyway!!...

you should first learn about real history before talking about boxing history.

bringing the 2nd world war into a boxing discussion is a shame for any human being in Europe.

You are the most stupid person here in this forum. Congratulations

but come on Bubi, we did win the war....twice, and one world cup!

Only joking mate, I'm sure anyone who mentions the war on here is only taking the piss....but we did win.

silkov wrote:

BubiScholz wrote:J, it´s just a fact that actually the Biritish heavyweight scene is beyond the rest of Europe. It is hard for you guys to realise after the best british heavy generation (Lewis,Hide,Bruno) retired.......

At least we don't need to import all our fighters from Eastern Europe and then try and pretend that they are 'our own' fighters.
Just because you see your own national title as meaningless does not make the British title meaningless also. And before you try and lump in the British and even Commonwealth titles in with your German International title and the WBU titles you should try and look at the history of the British and Commonwealth titles...

No, you import them from the Carebbean, or from other former colonies...

History pistory - Williams-Skelton was pretty irrelevant. For every half-decent heavyweight these guys would at best serve as cheap punching bags.

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:but come on Bubi, we did win the war....twice, and one world cup!

WE won the wars FOR you; and the World Cup - didn't you need

(i) home advantage (so the title counts only half, really - great nations can win everywehere), plus
(ii) an irregular goal that never crossed the line?

With fair refereeing, Germany would have 4 World Cups and England nill.

Which proves: Krauts are better at pretty much everything than Brits - this is why they are so unpopular on the rainy island.

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PS: only kidding

Don't mention the war, I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it

pundit wrote:

silkov wrote:

BubiScholz wrote:J, it´s just a fact that actually the Biritish heavyweight scene is beyond the rest of Europe. It is hard for you guys to realise after the best british heavy generation (Lewis,Hide,Bruno) retired.......

At least we don't need to import all our fighters from Eastern Europe and then try and pretend that they are 'our own' fighters.
Just because you see your own national title as meaningless does not make the British title meaningless also. And before you try and lump in the British and even Commonwealth titles in with your German International title and the WBU titles you should try and look at the history of the British and Commonwealth titles...

No, you import them from the Carebbean, or from other former colonies...

History pistory - Williams-Skelton was pretty irrelevant. For every half-decent heavyweight these guys would at best serve as cheap punching bags.

P

er no, those 'Carribeans' are by and large born here, which makes them English Bubi. Lennox Lewis, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Michael Watson, Duke Mc Kenzie, Lloyd Honeyghan Skelton Williams, etc etc were all I think I am correct in saying, were BORN IN ENGLAND.

We don't SHIP THEM IN and then claim they are English when they aren't.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

pundit wrote:

silkov wrote: At least we don't need to import all our fighters from Eastern Europe and then try and pretend that they are 'our own' fighters.
Just because you see your own national title as meaningless does not make the British title meaningless also. And before you try and lump in the British and even Commonwealth titles in with your German International title and the WBU titles you should try and look at the history of the British and Commonwealth titles...

No, you import them from the Carebbean, or from other former colonies...

History pistory - Williams-Skelton was pretty irrelevant. For every half-decent heavyweight these guys would at best serve as cheap punching bags.

P

er no, those 'Carribeans' are by and large born here, which makes them English Bubi. Lennox Lewis, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Michael Watson, Duke Mc Kenzie, Lloyd Honeyghan Skelton Williams, etc etc were all I think I am correct in saying, were BORN IN ENGLAND.

We don't SHIP THEM IN and then claim they are English when they aren't.

sorry, but this post was NOT from me.....

boys... i feel this thread is going the wrong way......
so lets stop it

and by the way... USSR won the war for us!!!!

Saw a shocking statistic on deaths in WW2.... .i think more Soviet soldiers died than everyone else put together....15 million i believe.....

Yep, they really got the worst of it. German soliders would often commit suicide if they thought they were going to be captured by the Russians.

Russia took the brunt of it, there were just so many of them that the Germans got completely bogged down.

The lesson is, don't fornicate with Russia, leave them be.

knockout wrote:boys... i feel this thread is going the wrong way......
so lets stop it

and by the way... USSR won the war for us!!!!

Saw a shocking statistic on deaths in WW2.... .i think more Soviet soldiers died than everyone else put together....15 million i believe.....

Soviets, Chinese, Germans, Jews (from various countries), and Poles took the biggest beating, in terms of absolute numbers. Compared to what these folks suffered the losses of the Western Allies' - hard as they were - appear relatively limited.

But I fully agree, best to leave this out. This is not suitable as a good joke under any circumstances, even if someone adds "onjly joking".

This is the point I meant to make.

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http://www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html

shocking numbers.... who killed 10 million chinese civilians ???? The Japanese??

knockout wrote:www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html

shocking numbers.... who killed 10 million chinese civilians ???? The Japanese??[/url]

Partly the Japanese, partly starvation. It's similar in Russia. Stalin let more people starve than Hitler killed.
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pundit wrote:

knockout wrote:www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html

shocking numbers.... who killed 10 million chinese civilians ???? The Japanese??[/url]

Partly the Japanese, partly starvation. It's similar in Russia. Stalin let more people starve than Hitler killed.
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thanks, you learn something new everyday....
Stalin was just as bad as Hitler... but he kept his shit in his own country..... Hitler started fornicating with everyone else, the Czechs the poles....

erm lads i dont mean to have a go but.......
so after everyone deciding that the war had no relevance to boxing and maybe deemd to be offensive to some, we decide to anylyse the losses and reasons behind it.

i see.

nice history lessons for the stupid silkov.....

J wrote:erm lads i dont mean to have a go but.......
so after everyone deciding that the war had no relevance to boxing and maybe deemd to be offensive to some, we decide to anylyse the losses and reasons behind it.

i see.

As long as this is not used to have cheap shots at one another...
But OK, this was my last post on the topic.

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pundit wrote:

knockout wrote:www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html

shocking numbers.... who killed 10 million chinese civilians ???? The Japanese??[/url]

Partly the Japanese, partly starvation. It's similar in Russia. Stalin let more people starve than Hitler killed.
P

Stalin actually starved and worked them to death deliberately, he believed that Russia was overpopulated, so set people to work in forced labour camps for years on end in the siberian tundra where they were worked to death on projects that were often just a smokescreen for mass murder.

they estminate that during the course of his tenure, Stalin accounted for the deaths of 100 million Russians.

J wrote:erm lads i dont mean to have a go but.......
so after everyone deciding that the war had no relevance to boxing and maybe deemd to be offensive to some, we decide to anylyse the losses and reasons behind it.

i see.

J: you know me mate, i digress off topic all the time.... i dont have a problem with off topic stuff...
But the thread was going down the "my country is better than yours" route which always ends in tears