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Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 05:25
by thunderfromdownunder
personally i would have bika higher that N'dou, and darchinyan at 1. but yeah all in all pretty good
so we just gonna run updates everytime one of these guys fights?
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 02:49
by Marlin
The Official Australian Boxing Forum P4P Rankings
As voted by forum members.
1.
Michael Katsidis
2.
Vic Darchinyan
3.
Anthony Mundine
4.
Daniel Geale
5.
Lovemore N'dou
6.
Sakio Bika
7.
Sam Soliman
8.
Kali Meehan
9.
Billy Dib
10.
William Kickett
Where does Katsidis move following his Split Decision loss to Juan Diaz?
Please make your vote in the following format:
Katsidis - Up to #
---------- Down to #
---------- No Change
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 02:50
by Marlin
My vote:
Katsidis - Down to #2
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 03:38
by Sweet P
Down to 2,
2 losses in a row but against the best in his division
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 05:14
by thunderfromdownunder
down to 3
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 06:20
by unleash06
katsidis down to 2
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 07:09
by Monty
Mick down to 4
Actually would also have Bika above Lovemore and also Kali above Sam, also kind of tempted to place Geale above Choc, but I will control myself!
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 07:36
by Sweet P
I was going to move Katsidis down to 3 but i thought if Mundine fought the best 2 fighters in his weight he would get beaten also. And if Mike took the soft options he would not have lost yet.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 17:33
by cace
katsidis down to 3
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 19:16
by toppity
Rocky down to 2
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 01:20
by adamheight
ben k wrote:I was going to move Katsidis down to 3 but i thought if Mundine fought the best 2 fighters in his weight he would get beaten also. And if Mike took the soft options he would not have lost yet.
exactly...
mundine should stay at 3 and drop katsidis to 2 (which makes vic 1)
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 10:20
by Hounddawg
Rocky down to 3.
He needs a win this year.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 18:37
by Marlin
Think that is just about everyone. The official result:
Katsidis - Down to #2
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 18:38
by Marlin
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 19:02
by Ultimateboxa2
Mundine surely has to be at #1.
Im starting to classify Vic as armenian? Romour is he tells everyone hes armenian.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 19:04
by Marlin
^Is there more than one person posting from that account?
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 19:05
by Marlin
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:I just thought it was common sense. Vic has to be #1. Katsidis struggled to take down a veteran, defending his interim title. Vic has taken down two title holders recently. 1 was scored a draw, poorly.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 21:40
by Ultimateboxa2
Marlin wrote:Ultimateboxa2 wrote:I just thought it was common sense. Vic has to be #1. Katsidis struggled to take down a veteran, defending his interim title. Vic has taken down two title holders recently. 1 was scored a draw, poorly.
Your not understanding me here.
Yes if Vics Oz, he is number 1.
But if he isn't, then Mundines number 1 and Katsidis 2.
Even though Katsidis is in there with the big fish, hes biggest win is Graham Earl, which doesn't compare to Mundines biggest wins.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 21:41
by Ultimateboxa2
Also Espino isn't exactly a bum. So we can't use that argument and it is apparently in the States.
Anyway if Vic is aussie, im happy to leave him at #1.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 21:45
by Marlin
That fight hasn't happen yet (it isn't that good anyway) and as ben said if Mundine fought the two best in his division he would get beaten. Katsidis was very competitive and at least he took a chance...
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 22:24
by Ultimateboxa2
Marlin wrote:That fight hasn't happen yet (it isn't that good anyway) and as ben said if Mundine fought the two best in his division he would get beaten. Katsidis was very competitive and at least he took a chance...
You can't just say he would get beaten. Hes in there with a chance.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 22:29
by Ultimateboxa2
Marlin wrote:That fight hasn't happen yet (it isn't that good anyway) and as ben said if Mundine fought the two best in his division he would get beaten. Katsidis was very competitive and at least he took a chance...
Very competitive. Yeh with Casamayor. But not with Diaz.
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 22:58
by Marlin
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Marlin wrote:That fight hasn't happen yet (it isn't that good anyway) and as ben said if Mundine fought the two best in his division he would get beaten. Katsidis was very competitive and at least he took a chance...
You can't just say he would get beaten. Hes in there with a chance.
We will never really know because he won't fight them but the fact he shamelessly ran scared of Kessler gives a good indication that he doesn't even think he could beat the top dogs...
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 09 Sep 2008, 01:59
by Sweet P
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Marlin wrote:That fight hasn't happen yet (it isn't that good anyway) and as ben said if Mundine fought the two best in his division he would get beaten. Katsidis was very competitive and at least he took a chance...
You can't just say he would get beaten. Hes in there with a chance.
What goes through your head UB2.
One day you love mundine the next you hate him,
The list is fine and thats how people voted. Stiff shit if you dont agree cause not many others on here agree with your thinking
Re: Australian P4P list
Posted: 09 Sep 2008, 03:33
by thunderfromdownunder
ben k wrote:I was going to move Katsidis down to 3 but i thought if Mundine fought the best 2 fighters in his weight he would get beaten also. And if Mike took the soft options he would not have lost yet.
against kessler, yes, but who is the other top fighter at 168? Bute, Froch? mundines wins over Green and Soliman are worth more than anything those two have ever done. and in a p4p sense, Mundine is a better fighter that katsidis anyway. better speed, defence, movement ect.
oh btw i am NOT a mundine fan, just my opinion