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Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:50
by Ulysses
Glyn Leach wrote:
Don't really think it's fair to compare the pagination of a one-off issue of BN, that is essentially two weeks' issues in one at Xmas, with a single issue of BM. Plus we gave away a free calendar with our "Xmas" issue (BN charges for their calendar). Swings and roundabouts, I'd say.
In fairness, every Boxing News is of a similar pagination. BN don't do a Christmas double issue anymore :TU:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:02
by oliverfennell
Terry D wrote:
Ulysses wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:
Don't really think it's fair to compare the pagination of a one-off issue of BN, that is essentially two weeks' issues in one at Xmas, with a single issue of BM. Plus we gave away a free calendar with our "Xmas" issue (BN charges for their calendar). Swings and roundabouts, I'd say.
In fairness, every Boxing News is of a similar pagination. BN don't do a Christmas double issue anymore :TU:
Why does race always get brought into Boxrec threads?

I liked the calender, was hoping to see a photo of Michael 'Best Fighter Ever' Dokes on it though.
There was

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:06
by E
Terry D wrote:
Ulysses wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:
Don't really think it's fair to compare the pagination of a one-off issue of BN, that is essentially two weeks' issues in one at Xmas, with a single issue of BM. Plus we gave away a free calendar with our "Xmas" issue (BN charges for their calendar). Swings and roundabouts, I'd say.
In fairness, every Boxing News is of a similar pagination. BN don't do a Christmas double issue anymore :TU:
Why does race always get brought into Boxrec threads?

I liked the calender, was hoping to see a photo of Michael 'Best Fighter Ever' Dokes on it though.

I can't believe there wasn't a Gerrie COetzee month.....

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:07
by oliverfennell
E wrote:
Terry D wrote:
Ulysses wrote: In fairness, every Boxing News is of a similar pagination. BN don't do a Christmas double issue anymore :TU:
Why does race always get brought into Boxrec threads?

I liked the calender, was hoping to see a photo of Michael 'Best Fighter Ever' Dokes on it though.

I can't believe there wasn't a Gerrie COetzee month.....
Y'all missed last year's calendar, then.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:23
by oliverfennell
Terry D wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Terry D wrote: Why does race always get brought into Boxrec threads?

I liked the calender, was hoping to see a photo of Michael 'Best Fighter Ever' Dokes on it though.
There was
Jan = Witherspoon

Feb = Pinklon

March = Tubbs

April = Spinks

May = Berbick

June = Smith

July = Tucker

Aug = Tyson

Sept = Douglas

Oct = Commander Evander

Nov = Bowe

Dec = Lewis

The 13th Month (that I always forget about) = Dokes, in his infamous invisible pose! Blow me.
It was in the previous year's calendar. It's going chronologically. Wonder if Botha and Toney will be included?

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:50
by Glyn Leach
Must say I'm really enjoying this little sounding board session, very interesting and rewarding to hear your views. Obviously, in my position, there is a danger of becoming a little too close to see clearly at times so it is good to get your perspective. Thank you all.

But I need some serious helping out here chaps - we've reached the silly point in heavyweight history and I was considering ending the heavyweight calendar series before getting into all the interims and whatnots and you know what I mean.

What would you prefer? All the nonsense or a different form of calendar - dunno, great middleweight champions or something - next time?

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:54
by MightyWarrior
The photos and layout of BM are excellent, and have been for years, really top class, and caused me to stop buying the other mags some time back ( Ring, KO etc ) Plus it's about as up to date as you can get, but of course sometimes it's impossible to fit a late fight in, like Hatton/PBF.

But like I say, it would be an excellent addition if your team could start tracking down some of the old faces from the 80's/90's - the fighters we never hear about any more ( not the Durans and Leonards )
it could make for some brilliant reading.

I used to like Farhoods alternative year end awards in KO back in the 80's as well, and it would beat the hell out of the re-heated quote feature, if done well.
Funnily enough, while I was thinking of this, I saw Oliver has just done something similar for BBN.

KO used to have awards like "The Azumah Nelson where he come from? award"....

or "The don't get up to get a beer award" - which could probably go to one of Enzo Maccarinelli's "opponents" - EVERY YEAR.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:56
by stujones
Glyn Leach wrote:Must say I'm really enjoying this little sounding board session, very interesting and rewarding to hear your views. Obviously, in my position, there is a danger of becoming a little too close to see clearly at times so it is good to get your perspective. Thank you all.

But I need some serious helping out here chaps - we've reached the silly point in heavyweight history and I was considering ending the heavyweight calendar series before getting into all the interims and whatnots and you know what I mean.

What would you prefer? All the nonsense or a different form of calendar - dunno, great middleweight champions or something - next time?
Tough call, personally I would like to see you finish off the Heavyweights (Big four organisations only).

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 14:11
by MightyWarrior
Glyn Leach wrote: What would you prefer? All the nonsense or a different form of calendar - dunno, great middleweight champions or something - next time?
Exclusively WBO Intercontinental interim champions?

Or the BM staff poolside, wearing speedos, one per month.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 14:13
by Glyn Leach
Very tough call Stu - I mean, Maskaev, Chagaev, Ibragimov ... how far do we go? Do these guys really deserve to be treated the same as the Holyfields and Marcianos of this world?

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 14:13
by Glyn Leach
Cease and desist warrior! Please!

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 15:12
by Glyn Leach
My fears exactly Terry

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 15:17
by Glyn Leach
We did a supplement featuring those kind of shots a few years back Terry, we try to vary things wherever possible

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 15:45
by nickd
DavidPayne wrote:Simply by interacting with readers here, I'm already more likely to purchase rather than read the Editorial and Buncey in WHSmiths.

I really respect the willingness to contribute by Glyn and Graham, both excellent voices, irrespective of the medium.
I wholeheartedly agree with David, the input here from the guys at BM has certainly made me far more inclined to pick up the next issue.

:TU:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 17:42
by monkeybusiness
I really like the quotes of the year section. I do REALLY hate Steve Bunce's column though.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 18:08
by E
I like the way BM do features on well known fighters and then on lesser known ones - either up and coming or just warriors with an interesting story to tell.

Maybe the calendar could be similar?

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 21:46
by oliverfennell
stujones wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:Must say I'm really enjoying this little sounding board session, very interesting and rewarding to hear your views. Obviously, in my position, there is a danger of becoming a little too close to see clearly at times so it is good to get your perspective. Thank you all.

But I need some serious helping out here chaps - we've reached the silly point in heavyweight history and I was considering ending the heavyweight calendar series before getting into all the interims and whatnots and you know what I mean.

What would you prefer? All the nonsense or a different form of calendar - dunno, great middleweight champions or something - next time?
Tough call, personally I would like to see you finish off the Heavyweights (Big four organisations only).
Yes, I say finish what you started. The 90s had some excellent heavyweights which it would be a shame to omit. But I'd say stick to the big 3, rather than 4, otherwise we might still be going in 2024.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 21:49
by oliverfennell
Glyn Leach wrote:Very tough call Stu - I mean, Maskaev, Chagaev, Ibragimov ... how far do we go? Do these guys really deserve to be treated the same as the Holyfields and Marcianos of this world?
Chagaev and Maskaev have as much of a claim as, say, Gerrie Coetzee. Just finish the run, big 3 only, and you'll be fine.

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 06:39
by Glyn Leach
Think you're right Oliver, in the fairest sense of continuity. Those guys have, after all, won the belts. But personally, had the last calendar ended with Vitali as December, I'd have been quite happy to leave it there.

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 10:04
by Tykemania
Glyn Leach wrote:Must say I'm really enjoying this little sounding board session, very interesting and rewarding to hear your views. Obviously, in my position, there is a danger of becoming a little too close to see clearly at times so it is good to get your perspective. Thank you all.

But I need some serious helping out here chaps - we've reached the silly point in heavyweight history and I was considering ending the heavyweight calendar series before getting into all the interims and whatnots and you know what I mean.

What would you prefer? All the nonsense or a different form of calendar - dunno, great middleweight champions or something - next time?
Worryingly, I didn;t even realise there was supposed to be a calnder until it was mentioned on here - damn WH Smiths!

Why not scrap the idea of a themed calender and go for the best boxing photography of the preceding year?

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 10:11
by Glyn Leach
We try to use the best shots available to us as we go along from issue to issue Tyke, wouldn't seem right to use them again in a calendar at the end of the year

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 10:48
by Tykemania
Glyn Leach wrote:We try to use the best shots available to us as we go along from issue to issue Tyke, wouldn't seem right to use them again in a calendar at the end of the year
Why not? Its not like you publish them in anything like the size they'd be on a calender, and the resultant spread of fighters would be a good reflectionof the year just passed. Besides, it isn't like you can source genuinely new photos for any of the other calender ideas!

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 13:45
by Matt W
I dread the thought of another heavyweight calendar - Botha, Seldon, Briggs, Valuev's hairy back and shoulders... It would ruin my Christmas.

I would like to see classic fight pictures, or perhaps great British champions. Obviously excluding the WB-WHO? variety.

Posted: 05 Jan 2008, 20:21
by steve689
Don't worry about the fractured title situation. BM should turn a negative into a positive by featuring the calendar on "Great Multiple Belt Holders". I mean Zapir Gereev must be a dead cert to be in it holding all those belts at once. It has never been done before and is unlikely to be done again.

Vacant WBE European Youth Welterweight Title
Vacant EBF European Youth Welterweight Title
Vacant GBC Intercontinental Welterweight Title


Go Zap :TU:

Posted: 06 Jan 2008, 06:14
by T.M.K
monkeybusiness wrote: I do REALLY hate Steve Bunce's column though.
Adios!

:wink: :lol: :wink:

Best wishes,

"T.M.K" :wink: