Mike Tyson And The Irony Of Cus D'Amato

[TheOneIsHere2008]

At the end of the day, Mike Tyson is an admitted child molestor. He'll burn in hell.

I am still trying to get over John Galt's suggestion that Atlas is a coward for not confronting the bigger, stronger, younger, and healthier Tyson with his fists...

[Big Bad John]

No. John Galt's an idiot.

[Robinson]

At the end of the day, Mike Tyson is an admitted child molestor. He'll burn in hell.

I am still trying to get over John Galt's suggestion that Atlas is a coward for not confronting the bigger, stronger, younger, and healthier Tyson with his fists...

I think you shall find he is suggesting that Atlas' stories are inconsitent.

[Big Bad John]

When did Atlas say he'd fight Briggs and Bowe? Galt's trolling. Poorly.

[Robinson]

He tried Fighting Foreman at the Moorer-Foreman press
conference and claimed he would have taken big George.

When he was training Briggs he and Shannon had a dispute
as Teddy always seems to do, and went around to Briggs
house and threatened to beat Shannon and Shannon's
weight coach up (I think it was his weight coach..shall
check on this).

Didnt he also claim that Donny Lalonde was scarred of him ?

[Big Bad John]

Muhammad Ali said he was going to wrestle with a whale before his fight with Foreman. Building up a fight's one thing.

[Robinson]

Yeah but Ali never claimed how tough he was on
several occasions, including in your own biography.

You using the Ali analogy just shows where you are.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

Ali was not a violent man...It is surprising he became a boxer...Reminds me of Lenox Lewis...Yes , there were isolated examples of gratutiotous violence against Terrell and Patterson but that was because he felt they disrepected him by refusing to call him by his chosen name...I really don't understand their position...Patterson and Terrell should have said "I'm going to knock Muhmmad Ali on his ass" and not play that "Clay" crap...

Look at the second fight with Quarry where he punches Quarry with one hand and uses the other hand to beckon the ref to stop the fight or in the Rumble In The Jungle where he lets Foreman fall down instead of hitting him or hooking him while he was falling which was legal...

I really don't know why we are discussing Tyson's sexual assault on eleven year old Teddy Atlas' niece...Tyson has admitted to it...Atlas used a gun to scare him...Most other men, humans being what they are, would have done nothing or called the police...

[Big Bad John]

I was implying that Atlas threatened to fight Foreman as part of the buildup to the fight. Atlas was big on pre-fight theatrics. Remeber Michael Moorer "breaking the table" before the first Holyfield fight? Also, Atlas is known to blatantly lie to fighters to motivate them. Remember in that same fight, when he picked up a phone and said that Michael Moorer's kids were calling and asking why their daddy wasn't fighting?

Look, Atlas was a punk. He probably still is. I'm not denying that. But I think you're taking a lot of what he's said too literally.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

I feel like we are going around in circles.

Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...


*Tyson was the favorite in every fight he had except the Lewis one...

[John Galt]

toih2008. you wrote, "Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants..."

just change a few names in your post and ...

Did Muhammad Ali lose to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton (thrice), Leon Spinks (8 fight novice), Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbeck because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...

For Ali we could also throw in Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, etc. Tyson did not have any controversial wins. He got no gift decisions.

[Big Bad John]

Ken Norton did NOT win the second Ali fight. Let me see your scorecard.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

toih2008. you wrote, "Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants..."
just change a few names in your post and ...

Did Muhammad Ali lose to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton (thrice), Leon Spinks (8 fight novice), Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbeck because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...

For Ali we could also throw in Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, etc. Tyson did not have any controversial wins. He got no gift decisions.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...You presented me with the rhetorical equivalent of Abysinnia's response to Mussolini's marauders in those heady days of 1935...Repeating what your interlocutor says and changing a few words does not an argument make unless you are in Mrs. Smith's remedial reading class...Reading your jeremiad reminds me of the admonition from Abraham Lincoln that it is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." You should stick to spamming the Ali videos on youtube instead of engaging in a mano-a-mano with someone who knows a thing or two about his subject...


My dear granberry, Ali had three fights with Frazier...He won two of them...Ali had three fights with Norton...He won two of them...On those nights that Ali lost Frazier and Norton were the better fighters...Crying about the referees is always the last refuge of the loser or his fans...If the referees err the errors are random and it is what it is...These controversies are not unique to boxing but a person might think they are if boxing is the only sport they are familiar with...Maybe if "Tin Mike" were still standing after his fights with the "Buster", the "Real Deal", "The Lion" ,"The Brixton Bomber", and "The Clones Collosus" "Tin Mike" would have got the gift decision you achingly long for...

Muhammad Ali lost to Leon Spinks but avenged that loss...Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick beat Muhammad Ali when he was a shot fighter...Yeah, a fighter with a bruise on the brain that showed up on a CT Scan , couldn't bend backwards and touch his nose (the drunk test), and couldn't hop with the agility expected of a man his age and condition is a shot fighter...If you want to debate these findings, granberry, please debate them with the neurologists at the Mayo Clinic who performed the test...I don't like to play physician on the internet...Or you could debate Ali's physical state with his long time friend and ring physician, Dr. Ferdie Pachecho who retired from his position after the Shavers fight and wrote registered letters to Muhammad Ali , himself, Herbert Muhammad, and Ali's then wife, Veronica Porsche that Ali's physical state had so declined that he risked permanent damage by continuing to fight...History has vindicated him...

Losing to Larry Holmes by TKO in ten and to Trevor Berbick in a decision as a shot thirty eight year old and forty year old fighter are only comparable to Buster Duglas' and Evander Holyfield's knock out destruction and humiliation of a prime or near prime Mike Tyson in the minds of Mike Tyson's most devoted and delerious fanboys...We won't even go into what The Lion, The Brixton Bomber, and The Clones Collosus did to Tin Mike Tyson....Maybe a Prime Ali loses to a Prime Holmes...Maybe he doesn't...Holmes was a fine fighter and there is no shame in losing to him...There is a consensus that a Prime Ali beats a Prime Holmes though a passionate minority says he doesn't...As for Trevor Berbick I haven't met a sentient person who says he could have beat Ali in his prime...

Next thing you will be telling me that Larry Donald, Macho Cammacho,Brian Nielsen and Tommy Gunn, errrr Tommy Morrison would have beat a prime Evander Holyfield, a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, a prime Larry Holmes, and a prime George Foreman...Only a naif or a boxing virgin would claim those late career losses preclude them from living forever in the pantheon of great fighters...

Mike Tyson does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants. But it is not because he lost a fight or several fights but that he has four unavenged defeats in the prime, near prime, and middle of his career , and those defeats occurred in the most ignominious ways imaginable...


"He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed."

-Proverbs 13:20

And desroyed, granberry, aka John Gault, you were...





KNOCKOUT

[Big Bad John]

Ali should not have won the third Norton fight.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

We can play these parlor games all day and play them about any sport-baseball, football, basketball, boxing, et cetera...Hell, even gymnastics...

At the end of the day the referees aren't infallible but the law of percentages suggest the errors they make work themselves out...

At least in boxing a participant can take it out of the referees or judge's hands by knocking his opponent the f--k out...

[My2Sense]

I said that Snowell has had markedly more success as a trainer than Rooney has, and it's true.

Rooney never was good enough to guide a 15-1 or 20-1 underdog (or anyone, for that matter) to beat a living legend and top P4P rated fighter, as Snowell did with Frankie Randall.

Nor was he good enough to take a fighter coming off a devastating loss and mold him into a P4P entrant, as Snowell did with Julian Jackson after he lost to McCallum.

And Rooney never proved (not even with Tyson) that he could keep a fighter consistent and dominant over a long period of time and through some genuine adversity, as Snowell did with Tim Austin.

No question Snowell f*cked up badly in the Douglas fight (and in some other isolated instances), but we never saw Rooney prove he could do any better under the same circumstances, so that in itself doesn't prove Rooney was better. Heck, Snowell actually made an effort to teach Tyson some new things that Rooney hadn't. Rooney did just enough to get Tyson to the top spot in the division, and then was gone before we saw how well he could work with Tyson on defending that position.

Randall was such an underdog against Chavez because Chavez was badly, badly overrated, and because he was a huge betting favorite among Mexicans.

Did he train a lot of champions? Sure. That was because he was Don King's lackey. His major skill was to get fighters to trust Don King. Check out what he said in an interview following Mike Tyson's KO loss to Danny Williams:

Gulf Coast Boxing: Where can Tyson go from here?

Aaron Snowell: Tyson needs to go back to Don King. King has the experience, the training facilities and the “know how”, to get a fighter going. King can help him get “the finance with the romance”. King did it for Holyfield; he gave Holyfield the opportunity to fight Tyson at the end of his career and he made more money in those two fights than he did over his entire career. Don King is directly responsible for revitalizing Holyfield’s career.

Don King brought Tyson out of prison, wisely picked fights for him, starting out with Pete McNeeley and eventually winning a title against Frank Bruno.

Mike is 38, he needs to realize that he cannot fight like he is 19 years old again. Foreman is a prime example of how an older fighter is supposed to fight. If Mike is to continue, he will have to learn how to get motivated for his fights, he will need to pace himself and not run out of steam so early in the fight.

Basically, Rooney told Tyson not to trust Don King, and Al Snowell told Tyson to trust Don and Carl King. Outside of what the two did as trainers, Snowell has consistently gotten fighters to work with King, and that's pure bullshit. Sure, by working with King, he got to be in a lot of fighters' corners, but he simply was NOT a good adviser of fighters.

Having connections may explain how he gets fighters, but does not explain the sort of success he's had with them.

You make it sound as if Chavez was a flash-in-the-pan kind of P4P entrant, like Donald Curry or even Tyson. Far from that, his standing was well earned through years and years of fighting (and winning) at the top level across multiple weight classes. By contrast, Randall verged on being a career journeyman until Snowell got ahold of him.

Rooney had access to plenty of fighters at one time too, because of his popularity from working with Tyson. He lost that as fighters began realizing how overrated he really had been.

[granberry]

toih2008. you wrote, "Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants..."
just change a few names in your post and ...

Did Muhammad Ali lose to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton (thrice), Leon Spinks (8 fight novice), Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbeck because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...

For Ali we could also throw in Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, etc. Tyson did not have any controversial wins. He got no gift decisions.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...You presented me with the rhetorical equivalent of Abysinnia's response to Mussolini's marauders in those heady days of 1935...Repeating what your interlocutor says and changing a few words does not an argument make unless you are in Mrs. Smith's remedial reading class...Reading your jeremiad reminds me of the admonition from Abraham Lincoln that it is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." You should stick to spamming the Ali videos on youtube instead of engaging in a mano-a-mano with someone who knows a thing or two about his subject...


My dear granberry, Ali had three fights with Frazier...He won two of them...Ali had three fights with Norton...He won two of them...On those nights that Ali lost Frazier and Norton were the better fighters...Crying about the referees is always the last refuge of the loser or his fans...If the referees err the errors are random and it is what it is...These controversies are not unique to boxing but a person might think they are if boxing is the only sport they are familiar with...Maybe if "Tin Mike" were still standing after his fights with the "Buster", the "Real Deal", "The Lion" ,"The Brixton Bomber", and "The Clones Collosus" "Tin Mike" would have got the gift decision you achingly long for...

Muhammad Ali lost to Leon Spinks but avenged that loss...Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick beat Muhammad Ali when he was a shot fighter...Yeah, a fighter with a bruise on the brain that showed up on a CT Scan , couldn't bend backwards and touch his nose (the drunk test), and couldn't hop with the agility expected of a man his age and condition is a shot fighter...If you want to debate these findings, granberry, please debate them with the neurologists at the Mayo Clinic who performed the test...I don't like to play physician on the internet...Or you could debate Ali's physical state with his long time friend and ring physician, Dr. Ferdie Pachecho who retired from his position after the Shavers fight and wrote registered letters to Muhammad Ali , himself, Herbert Muhammad, and Ali's then wife, Veronica Porsche that Ali's physical state had so declined that he risked permanent damage by continuing to fight...History has vindicated him...

Losing to Larry Holmes by TKO in ten and to Trevor Berbick in a decision as a shot thirty eight year old and forty year old fighter are only comparable to Buster Duglas' and Evander Holyfield's knock out destruction and humiliation of a prime or near prime Mike Tyson in the minds of Mike Tyson's most devoted and delerious fanboys...We won't even go into what The Lion, The Brixton Bomber, and The Clones Collosus did to Tin Mike Tyson....Maybe a Prime Ali loses to a Prime Holmes...Maybe he doesn't...Holmes was a fine fighter and there is no shame in losing to him...There is a consensus that a Prime Ali beats a Prime Holmes though a passionate minority says he doesn't...As for Trevor Berbick I haven't met a sentient person who says he could have beat Ali in his prime...

Next thing you will be telling me that Larry Donald, Macho Cammacho,Brian Nielsen and Tommy Gunn, errrr Tommy Morrison would have beat a prime Evander Holyfield, a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, a prime Larry Holmes, and a prime George Foreman...Only a naif or a boxing virgin would claim those late career losses preclude them from living forever in the pantheon of great fighters...

Mike Tyson does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants. But it is not because he lost a fight or several fights but that he has four unavenged defeats in the prime, near prime, and middle of his career , and those defeats occurred in the most ignominious ways imaginable...


"He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed."

-Proverbs 13:20

And desroyed, granberry, aka John Gault, you were...





KNOCKOUT

collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the homosexual fixation, has now admitted that he is TheOne.

That would obvious already from the rabid Ali shilling and the ignorance of boxing in general on display in "TheOne's" posts.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

toih2008. you wrote, "Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants..."
just change a few names in your post and ...

Did Muhammad Ali lose to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton (thrice), Leon Spinks (8 fight novice), Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbeck because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...

For Ali we could also throw in Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, etc. Tyson did not have any controversial wins. He got no gift decisions.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...You presented me with the rhetorical equivalent of Abysinnia's response to Mussolini's marauders in those heady days of 1935...Repeating what your interlocutor says and changing a few words does not an argument make unless you are in Mrs. Smith's remedial reading class...Reading your jeremiad reminds me of the admonition from Abraham Lincoln that it is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." You should stick to spamming the Ali videos on youtube instead of engaging in a mano-a-mano with someone who knows a thing or two about his subject...


My dear granberry, Ali had three fights with Frazier...He won two of them...Ali had three fights with Norton...He won two of them...On those nights that Ali lost Frazier and Norton were the better fighters...Crying about the referees is always the last refuge of the loser or his fans...If the referees err the errors are random and it is what it is...These controversies are not unique to boxing but a person might think they are if boxing is the only sport they are familiar with...Maybe if "Tin Mike" were still standing after his fights with the "Buster", the "Real Deal", "The Lion" ,"The Brixton Bomber", and "The Clones Collosus" "Tin Mike" would have got the gift decision you achingly long for...

Muhammad Ali lost to Leon Spinks but avenged that loss...Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick beat Muhammad Ali when he was a shot fighter...Yeah, a fighter with a bruise on the brain that showed up on a CT Scan , couldn't bend backwards and touch his nose (the drunk test), and couldn't hop with the agility expected of a man his age and condition is a shot fighter...If you want to debate these findings, granberry, please debate them with the neurologists at the Mayo Clinic who performed the test...I don't like to play physician on the internet...Or you could debate Ali's physical state with his long time friend and ring physician, Dr. Ferdie Pachecho who retired from his position after the Shavers fight and wrote registered letters to Muhammad Ali , himself, Herbert Muhammad, and Ali's then wife, Veronica Porsche that Ali's physical state had so declined that he risked permanent damage by continuing to fight...History has vindicated him...

Losing to Larry Holmes by TKO in ten and to Trevor Berbick in a decision as a shot thirty eight year old and forty year old fighter are only comparable to Buster Duglas' and Evander Holyfield's knock out destruction and humiliation of a prime or near prime Mike Tyson in the minds of Mike Tyson's most devoted and delerious fanboys...We won't even go into what The Lion, The Brixton Bomber, and The Clones Collosus did to Tin Mike Tyson....Maybe a Prime Ali loses to a Prime Holmes...Maybe he doesn't...Holmes was a fine fighter and there is no shame in losing to him...There is a consensus that a Prime Ali beats a Prime Holmes though a passionate minority says he doesn't...As for Trevor Berbick I haven't met a sentient person who says he could have beat Ali in his prime...

Next thing you will be telling me that Larry Donald, Macho Cammacho,Brian Nielsen and Tommy Gunn, errrr Tommy Morrison would have beat a prime Evander Holyfield, a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, a prime Larry Holmes, and a prime George Foreman...Only a naif or a boxing virgin would claim those late career losses preclude them from living forever in the pantheon of great fighters...

Mike Tyson does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants. But it is not because he lost a fight or several fights but that he has four unavenged defeats in the prime, near prime, and middle of his career , and those defeats occurred in the most ignominious ways imaginable...


"He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed."

-Proverbs 13:20

And desroyed, granberry, aka John Gault, you were...





KNOCKOUT

collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the homosexual fixation, has now admitted that he is TheOne.

That would obvious already from the rabid Ali shilling and the ignorance of boxing in general on display in "TheOne's" posts.

Can you translate that into English please or did your all nighter with the young man with the broad back render you incoherent?





Between the reeming I'm giving you and the one you received from the young plan with the broad back the stock of Preparation H must be soaring...

[granberry]

TheOne has now given away the fact he is collins, the Code Pinko boxrec poster with the homosexual fixation.

Under your new alias you couldn't control your urge to write about homosexuality for long, could you collins ?

[TheOneIsHere2008]

delete

[TheOneIsHere2008]

toih2008. you wrote, "Did Mike Tyson lose to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (twice), Lenox Lewis, Kevin McBride, and Danny Williams because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants..."
just change a few names in your post and ...

Did Muhammad Ali lose to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton (thrice), Leon Spinks (8 fight novice), Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbeck because they were not intimidated by him or did he lose because they were just better boxers?*

Does it really matter?

A boxer with such a checkered record does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants...

For Ali we could also throw in Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, etc. Tyson did not have any controversial wins. He got no gift decisions.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...You presented me with the rhetorical equivalent of Abysinnia's response to Mussolini's marauders in those heady days of 1935...Repeating what your interlocutor says and changing a few words does not an argument make unless you are in Mrs. Smith's remedial reading class...Reading your jeremiad reminds me of the admonition from Abraham Lincoln that it is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." You should stick to spamming the Ali videos on youtube instead of engaging in a mano-a-mano with someone who knows a thing or two about his subject...


My dear granberry, Ali had three fights with Frazier...He won two of them...Ali had three fights with Norton...He won two of them...On those nights that Ali lost Frazier and Norton were the better fighters...Crying about the referees is always the last refuge of the loser or his fans...If the referees err the errors are random and it is what it is...These controversies are not unique to boxing but a person might think they are if boxing is the only sport they are familiar with...Maybe if "Tin Mike" were still standing after his fights with the "Buster", the "Real Deal", "The Lion" ,"The Brixton Bomber", and "The Clones Collosus" "Tin Mike" would have got the gift decision you achingly long for...

Muhammad Ali lost to Leon Spinks but avenged that loss...Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick beat Muhammad Ali when he was a shot fighter...Yeah, a fighter with a bruise on the brain that showed up on a CT Scan , couldn't bend backwards and touch his nose (the drunk test), and couldn't hop with the agility expected of a man his age and condition is a shot fighter...If you want to debate these findings, granberry, please debate them with the neurologists at the Mayo Clinic who performed the test...I don't like to play physician on the internet...Or you could debate Ali's physical state with his long time friend and ring physician, Dr. Ferdie Pachecho who retired from his position after the Shavers fight and wrote registered letters to Muhammad Ali , himself, Herbert Muhammad, and Ali's then wife, Veronica Porsche that Ali's physical state had so declined that he risked permanent damage by continuing to fight...History has vindicated him...

Losing to Larry Holmes by TKO in ten and to Trevor Berbick in a decision as a shot thirty eight year old and forty year old fighter are only comparable to Buster Duglas' and Evander Holyfield's knock out destruction and humiliation of a prime or near prime Mike Tyson in the minds of Mike Tyson's most devoted and delerious fanboys...We won't even go into what The Lion, The Brixton Bomber, and The Clones Collosus did to Tin Mike Tyson....Maybe a Prime Ali loses to a Prime Holmes...Maybe he doesn't...Holmes was a fine fighter and there is no shame in losing to him...There is a consensus that a Prime Ali beats a Prime Holmes though a passionate minority says he doesn't...As for Trevor Berbick I haven't met a sentient person who says he could have beat Ali in his prime...

Next thing you will be telling me that Larry Donald, Macho Cammacho,Brian Nielsen and Tommy Gunn, errrr Tommy Morrison would have beat a prime Evander Holyfield, a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, a prime Larry Holmes, and a prime George Foreman...Only a naif or a boxing virgin would claim those late career losses preclude them from living forever in the pantheon of great fighters...

Mike Tyson does not deserve to be in the company of the sport's great participants. But it is not because he lost a fight or several fights but that he has four unavenged defeats in the prime, near prime, and middle of his career , and those defeats occurred in the most ignominious ways imaginable...


"He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed."

-Proverbs 13:20

And desroyed, granberry, aka John Gault, you were...





KNOCKOUT

collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the homosexual fixation, has now admitted that he is TheOne.

That would obvious already from the rabid Ali shilling and the ignorance of boxing in general on display in "TheOne's" posts.

Granberry, you lack the intellectual fire power to even begin to rebut the powerful points I made...And I am so confident in my assertion that I will donate $1,000.00 to the charity of your choice, except NAMBLA, if you can to the satisfaction of an independent and dispassionate arbiter do so....

[granberry]

TheOne's fixation on homosexuality gives away the fact that he is collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the fixation on homosexuality who leaves his droppings over boxrec.

Or is it boxREEK?

[TheOneIsHere2008]

TheOne's fixation on homosexuality gives away the fact that he is collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the fixation on homosexuality who leaves his droppings over boxrec.

Or is it boxREEK?

I see you are not man enough to accept my offer...


"Cowards die many times before their deaths, The valiant never taste of death but once."

-Julius Caesar

[Collins2000]

TheOne's fixation on homosexuality gives away the fact that he is collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the fixation on homosexuality who leaves his droppings over boxrec.

Or is it boxREEK?

I see you are not man enough to accept my offer...


"Cowards die many times before their deaths, The valiant never taste of death but once."

-Julius Caesar

Granberry has NEVER answered any challenge to any of his ridiculous claims.

Trolls never do. For obvious reasons.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

TheOne's fixation on homosexuality gives away the fact that he is collins, the Code Pink boxrec poster with the fixation on homosexuality who leaves his droppings over boxrec.

Or is it boxREEK?

I see you are not man enough to accept my offer...


"Cowards die many times before their deaths, The valiant never taste of death but once."

-Julius Caesar

Granberry has NEVER answered any challenge to any of his ridiculous claims.

Trolls never do. For obvious reasons.

A poster said that Granny used to be a trainer...Is that just more apocrypha???And in any case his observations are biased and illogical....Saddam was a general so anything is possible...