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Boxingnut wrote:

Noe Cruz trained kids out of the Stanton A.C. in the 60's, when I was fighting in the Junior amateurs. Later he'd continue training amateurs out of the Westminster Boxing club and I believe he still is?

-Rick Farris

kikibalt wrote:Rob...Looks like you got this photo thing down pat...good for you...

You have more L.A./SoCal stuff them me....

Cheers Frank I learned from the master

I have more L.A./SoCal stuff than you, you have more hair than me!! :)

Rick Farris wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

Noe Cruz trained kids out of the Stanton A.C. in the 60's, when I was fighting in the Junior amateurs. Later he'd continue training amateurs out of the Westminster Boxing club and I believe he still is?

-Rick Farris

Rick, He died some years back.

Boxingnut wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Rob...Looks like you got this photo thing down pat...good for you...

You have more L.A./SoCal stuff them me....

Cheers Frank I learned from the master

I have more L.A./SoCal stuff than you, you have more hair than me!! :)

Hair I do have, got that from my maternal grandfather...

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

Noe Cruz trained kids out of the Stanton A.C. in the 60's, when I was fighting in the Junior amateurs. Later he'd continue training amateurs out of the Westminster Boxing club and I believe he still is?

-Rick Farris

Rick, He died some years back.

Frank, in 2000 I spoke with a boxer who trained at Westminster and he said that Noe was training kids there. It seems like yesterday that I had that conversation, however, it was nine years ago. Thanks for the information.

-Rick

Boxingnut wrote:

Weaver never pushed on as heavyweight champion, winning the title in 1980 but making just a couple of defences before Mike Dokes relieved him of the belt in about 80 seconds in late 1982. That was a waste.

bennie wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

Weaver never pushed on as heavyweight champion, winning the title in 1980 but making just a couple of defences before Mike Dokes relieved him of the belt in about 80 seconds in late 1982. That was a waste.

The Weaver family produced some big hitters, including Mike and his triplet brothers who fought as middleweights in the 80's & 90's. Unfortunatly, all were a bit weak in the chin.

-Rick

Boxingnut wrote:

The caption is wrong. It might be Greg Coverson or Scotty Foreman.

bennie wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

The caption is wrong. It might be Greg Coverson or Scotty Foreman.

When I first saw this photo I thought it was Ronnie Harris. But then I noticed the Henry Grooms stable caption and the only one I could think of was Len Hutchins. Both fighters wore the large 'fro. This is starting to annoy me now. Who is this?

Scartissue

scartissue wrote:

bennie wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

The caption is wrong. It might be Greg Coverson or Scotty Foreman.

When I first saw this photo I thought it was Ronnie Harris. But then I noticed the Henry Grooms stable caption and the only one I could think of was Len Hutchins. Both fighters wore the large 'fro. This is starting to annoy me now. Who is this?

Scartissue

Yeah, I think you're very, very warm, Dan (if not bang on the nail). At first I thought it might be Willie Taylor, the Bronx fighter who Conteh fought. "Tap Tap" Harris also came to mind. Then I remembered an article on prospects from Kalamazoo (spelling) and Coverson and co. came to mind.

LET THE LEAVES FALL WHERE THEY MAY

"Just sweep out in the front."
Jose ,the maintance guy was opening up the gym . The fighters weren't due to arrive for another hour. I wanted to help him set up the place.
"Don't you want me to sweep off those leaves under that tree at the curb?"
"Unless the wind blows them by the door ,it's OK where they are,"said Jose.
Jose Valdez used to be a fighter. In fact I saw him fight many times. He fought at the Coliseum and Tijuana. He was on many of the cards. The only time I saw him in a main event is when he fought Bobby Valdez,no relation,to a draw. It was a bit of an upset. Bobby had the betters with him that night,but Jose fought him tough. Jose wasn't the most polished fighter in the ring,but the guy had only one gear. Forward.He was a little bull. Barrell chest. Short arms. He'd load up with everything. He telegraphed it,but if his opponent slowed down he was on the receiving end of some terrific blows.
"Hey Rog,you still painting?"
"Yep. I struggle at it."
"How about painting a picture of me?"
"I'd be honored."
"I'm kidding. Painting my mug would be a horror story."
Jose's face had shown the stories of his fights. Scar tissue,broken nose. Mishapen and beautifull.

Jose liked working around the gym. Once in a while he'd be asked to work a corner. Run errands. Anything to keep a hand in it. He wanted to train a prospect,but Jose was way down in the pecking order to work with any good talent. However,he didn't brood about it.

"I'm done sweeping. Anything else?"
"Not for now. When the boy's arrive,I'll think of something."
Jose wore the same outfit everyday. White T shirt and brown khaki pants. He sure looked like a bulldog.
"Remember the fight with Bobby Valdez?"
"How could I forget."
"I thought you won that night."
"It was a close fight. I have no regrets."
"Too bad they couldn't have gotten you something big after that."
Jose was replacing a light bulb that had burned out in the corner of the gym.
"I wasn't connected."
"You deserved something better."
"Yes,but that was in the past."

Jose had replaced the light. Everything was in order now for when the fighters arrived. He lit a cigarette.
"If I didn't keep this place up,things would go to hell."
He took a long drag. The smoke trickled from his nostrils.

The fighters would arrive soon. They knew everything would be in order. They liked Jose ,but I thought sometimes they took him for granted. Jose finished his smoke.
"You sure there's nothing else you want me to do?"
"No,everything is set up."
"How about the leaves under that tree?"
"They're all right. They belong there."

I thought about that last sentence. I looked outside at the tree and the leaves that had fallen under it. I thought when I got back hame,I might try to paint a picture of it.

scartissue wrote:

bennie wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

The caption is wrong. It might be Greg Coverson or Scotty Foreman.

When I first saw this photo I thought it was Ronnie Harris. But then I noticed the Henry Grooms stable caption and the only one I could think of was Len Hutchins. Both fighters wore the large 'fro. This is starting to annoy me now. Who is this?

Scartissue

It's not Randy Shields. DD

bennie wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:

The caption is wrong. It might be Greg Coverson or Scotty Foreman.

When I posted the image I didn't think it was Floyd Mayweather myself. In the article it mentions the prospects in Groom's stable as Len Hutchins, Vonzell Johnson, Greg Coverson, Al Fracker, Richard Rozelle, Milton Seward and Forrest Winchester.

(Frank, There was a short biography about Henry Clark a few pages back and then some discussion as to if the picture of him against Norton was actually him so here is a couple of pictures of Henry from the 70's)





Henry was one of the nicest guys in San Francisco boxing, always dressed like he was going to a ball and carried a swagger stick. He worked as a carpenter during the day at the American Can Company, very talkative and always had a handshake and one liner for you. He really like the bit of notoriety that came with his boxing status. He was a very elusive boxer which often led to a boring fight and he could make a good fighter look bad.
Bobbin & Weavin

Photo posting instruction's

Store your pics. in "My Pictures" that makes it easy to fine'em, once you have an image store in "My Pictures" you r-click on the pic. to edit it, a window will open, l-click on"edit",l-click on "image" (L-top), l-click on "stretch/skew", on horizontal & vertical you put any number under 100, the bigger the file the smaller the number you want to put in, e.g, 50 instead of 75,, click ok, if you don't like the size, go back to image and put a bigger number then you did the first time and click ok again, once you have the size that you like, click RED X, (R-top), click "Yes".

Now you're going to need a hosting website to post the pics. on the thread.

The website that I use is "Tinypic.com", once you get into the website, click on browse, a window will open, if it opens on "My Pictures" fine the pic you want to post, double l-click on the pic. l-click "Upload Now" highlight "Img Code For Forum & Message Boards" hold "ctrl Key" fast hit on "C KEY" go to BoxRec, Click post reply, r-click, l-click "Paste", click "Submit"

Rick- Yes, I was born in Great Falls, Montana and lived in the vicinity for about ten years before moving down to Southern California.

- Chuck Johnston

Frank
I'm working on it

"Sandy Saddler

By Roger Esty

kikibalt wrote:
"Sandy Saddler

By Roger Esty

Frank
I'm close,I think. Do I have to open an account with TinyPics or Yahoo?

dagosd2000 wrote:Frank
I'm close,I think. Do I have to open an account with TinyPics or Yahoo?

Only if you want, try it with out it, if it don't work, then open one, I don't remember if I open one.

IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards

SHIT!

A Mel Epstein boxer . . .


Name: Tiger Ray Cote
Career Record: click
Nationality: US American
Birthplace: Butte, MT
Hometown: Butte, Montana, USA
Born: 1915-08-09

Ray Cote, Butte welterweight, was born in the mining city on August 9, 1915, where he made his home, with the exception of two years spent on a horse ranch north of Edmonton, Canada.

He gained a 10-round victory over Midnight Bell; a 10-round decision over Chief Ballard, knockouts against Frankie Monroe, Bud Tibbetts and R.J. Lewis of Denver; and went a 10-round draw with Otto Blackwell. Although outweighed 10 pounds he won a 8-round victory over Larry Kellum. In this bout Cote, who was a great body puncher, had Kellum down three times and broke three of Kellum's ribs in the encounter.

Cote also had an 8-round victory over tough Billy Lancaster, a win and a draw against Roy Quackley, and an 8-round draw with Johnny Marques. Cost lost one 10-rounder to Jackie Burke at Salt Lake City, always seeking for a revenge.
Mel Epstein was his manager.

"New Faces" by Right Cross, The Ring magazine, April 1941

-Courtesy John Bardelli

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Ernie Terrell by Diego(Computer Geek) Esty

Thanks Frank
I remember my first time with the opposite sex wasn't that good either. The only thing was,that took about eight seconds. This posting thing took about eight hours. One thing in common:I like both. Rog