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bennie wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Bennie . . . Secondsout.com reports that Vitali K. will defend his WBC title against Juan Carlos Gomez instead of David Haye, and of course younger brother Vlad is in negotiations to fight Chris Arreola. I knew it was too good to be true. I'm still not familiar with Haye so I appreciate your input regarding the Brit heavyweight. Of course, it was hard to believe that either Klitschko would deliberatly agree to step into a ring with anybody who could offer a challenge. With Arreola, I see him having a very slim chance of landing his big bomb on Vlad's chin. If he does, it will be all over, of course. However, I haven't seen any hint of skill in Chris Arreola.

-Rick

Haye was a top amateur who picked up heavyweight silver in the 2001 world championships in Belfast. He nearly knocked out Cuban Odlanier Solis in the opening seconds of the final with a cracking right uppercut but Solis somehow stayed on his feet and survived the round and came back to win in the third round. Haye was on his feet but shipping punishment. Haye said later he was "busted" after a hard run to the final but Solis was just too good. There is no disgrace in losing to a Cuban in ANY amateur boxing final.
Londoner David turned pro at cruiserweight and flattened everyone (often with the first punch he threw) up to a match with 40-year-old Carl Thompson at Wembley in September 2004. It was the first big fight at Wembley for years and Haye bragged beforehand: "I've never fought anyone who didn't quickly respect my power." Thompson promptly soaked up everything Haye could throw at him and came back to win in the fifth round. Haye was utterly, utterly exausted, he could barely speak he was so exhausted.
Crucially, it was a defeat (his only defeat) he learned from and he came back with a series of punch-picking wins and tested the heavyweight division when he blasted big Pole Tomasz Bonin in the first round in early 2007, again at Wembley. He knew his destiny but there was unfinished business at cruiserweight. He dropped back down and ventured to the Lion's Den of Paris and ripped the undisputed world cruiserweight title from French bull Jean Marc Mormeck in seven impressive rounds. Mormeck hurt Haye in the early rounds, but David took a knee and rode out the storm. He showed new-found maturity. Then he came back hard and finished Mormeck with a right hand any fighter would have been proud to land. Haye used to be all right hand but his left hook is now much better, as is his jab. His right uppercut is a real danger shot. He had one more fight at cruiserweight after Mormeck, blowing away British rival Enzo Maccarinelli in two embarrassingly easy rounds and then officially moved up to heavy with that recent win over division gatekeeper Monte Barrett. He floored Barrett five times.
Haye might be a bit 'chinny' but can certainly whack, whips himself into great shape, goes for it and has real charisma. He is a licence to print money, a heavyweight who can fight and who wants to fight. I met him on a train to Sheffield a couple of years ago. He was with his trainer Adam Booth. The train was packed and Haye and Booth walked past on the way to the buffet conpartment and I said my hellos. They came back and sat on the edge of my seat, chatting boxing, for the rest of the journey.

Two things concern me based on what you say, Bennie. The "chin" thing is never good, but you can get by with a bad one for awhile. Conditioning? Fighters who allow themselves to go into pro matches in less than proper condition early in their careers (the Thompson fight) may work hard later, but eventually fall back on lazy ways. I worry about big punchers, especially those who win most of their bouts early. They often rely on their power, and when it doesn't do the trick, they find themselves in uncharted waters. The go belly up like a gold fish. This is my concern about David Haye. If he has gained maturity, as you say, and is a worker in the gym, hopefully he'll rid boxing of the boring Russian group. The Russians are are no challenge for any viable heavyweight, so it isn't if we expect David Haye to beat an Ali or Forman, but he'll need to be at his best and not allow his suspect chin to lay in the path of a long range Russian missle. He'll have to go in and fight the Russians. They only win when people fight them from the outside. If you press the Russians relentlessly, they will start scanning the canvas for a place to fall.

You can bet I'll be rooting for Haye, but I can't put much into his win over Monte Barrett. The bottom line is Barrett is a bum, a dog with a lot of fleas, he fights to lose. It's his job and he does it well.

-Rick

The Golden State Boxers' Assocciation will hold a luncheon to honor the "The Women Behind The men In Boxing" at Steven's Steakhouse, Commerce, Ca.
The date might be February 28, 2009.

Chavez Jr. vs De LA Hoya ?
By Edgar Gonzalez


So you beat Matt Vanda twice-big deal, what’s next? Another taxi driver?
It pisses me off how they been breast feeding Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. thru out his so-called professional career.

Chavez Jr. has a record of 38-0-1 (29KO’s) to this day; he hasn’t defended or fought for a major title yet. What’s up with that? One thing is for sure, he would never be like his father and the thing that gets me is how Chavez Jr. has the audacity to call out Oscar De La Hoya, yes De La Hoya manslaughtered your father not once but twice and what sweeter revenge than to go after Oscar. You have to admit, it is an intriguing match up and the sound of this even makes a great movie plot. But Chavez Jr. doesn’t deserve it. That’s the dream of many boxers to have the opportunity to step in the ring with a mega superstar and not to mention your biggest payday. Take Steve Forbes for example, he couldn’t believe it when they told him he was going to fight the Golden Boy, he though it was a prank.

I think Chavez Jr. needs to work on his resume first before he considers fighting some one like Oscar De La Hoya, I also think its disrespectful to other boxers who have worked so hard if Oscar even considers Chavez Jr. a worthy opponent.

Do you think Chavez Jr. deserves a fight with Oscar De La Hoya?

By the way, this picture was taken during the Manny-De La Hoya fight. Jr. looks Fat!

Benefit dinner party to be held for ailing boxer

Retired world super-featherweight champion Genaro Hernandez is ailing with a cancerous brain tumor, and boxing figures will gather at a benefit dinner party Jan. 17 at the World Boxing Council Legends of Boxing Museum in San Bernardino to help defray his medical expenses. For ticket information, contact museum chairman Rudy Tellez at [email protected], or at (323) 229-1694.

kikibalt wrote:Chavez Jr. vs De LA Hoya ?
By Edgar Gonzalez


So you beat Matt Vanda twice-big deal, what’s next? Another taxi driver?
It pisses me off how they been breast feeding Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. thru out his so-called professional career.

Chavez Jr. has a record of 38-0-1 (29KO’s) to this day; he hasn’t defended or fought for a major title yet. What’s up with that? One thing is for sure, he would never be like his father and the thing that gets me is how Chavez Jr. has the audacity to call out Oscar De La Hoya, yes De La Hoya manslaughtered your father not once but twice and what sweeter revenge than to go after Oscar. You have to admit, it is an intriguing match up and the sound of this even makes a great movie plot. But Chavez Jr. doesn’t deserve it. That’s the dream of many boxers to have the opportunity to step in the ring with a mega superstar and not to mention your biggest payday. Take Steve Forbes for example, he couldn’t believe it when they told him he was going to fight the Golden Boy, he though it was a prank.

I think Chavez Jr. needs to work on his resume first before he considers fighting some one like Oscar De La Hoya, I also think its disrespectful to other boxers who have worked so hard if Oscar even considers Chavez Jr. a worthy opponent.

Do you think Chavez Jr. deserves a fight with Oscar De La Hoya?

By the way, this picture was taken during the Manny-De La Hoya fight. Jr. looks Fat!

Chavez doesn't deserve anything beyond the ass-whipping he'll receive when he faces a boxer who can fight. If Oscar fights anybody again, he deserves the ass-whipping that Chavez Jr. just isn't man enough to give him. In fact, they both deserve an ass-whipping for suggesting to the public that such a match is worth making. Anybody who would buy such a fight needs an ass-whipping for "contributing to the destruction of boxing", and I deserve an ass-whipping for wasting this space in an other wise legitimate boxing forum.

-Rick

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Chavez Jr. vs De LA Hoya ?
By Edgar Gonzalez


So you beat Matt Vanda twice-big deal, what’s next? Another taxi driver?
It pisses me off how they been breast feeding Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. thru out his so-called professional career.

Chavez Jr. has a record of 38-0-1 (29KO’s) to this day; he hasn’t defended or fought for a major title yet. What’s up with that? One thing is for sure, he would never be like his father and the thing that gets me is how Chavez Jr. has the audacity to call out Oscar De La Hoya, yes De La Hoya manslaughtered your father not once but twice and what sweeter revenge than to go after Oscar. You have to admit, it is an intriguing match up and the sound of this even makes a great movie plot. But Chavez Jr. doesn’t deserve it. That’s the dream of many boxers to have the opportunity to step in the ring with a mega superstar and not to mention your biggest payday. Take Steve Forbes for example, he couldn’t believe it when they told him he was going to fight the Golden Boy, he though it was a prank.

I think Chavez Jr. needs to work on his resume first before he considers fighting some one like Oscar De La Hoya, I also think its disrespectful to other boxers who have worked so hard if Oscar even considers Chavez Jr. a worthy opponent.

Do you think Chavez Jr. deserves a fight with Oscar De La Hoya?

By the way, this picture was taken during the Manny-De La Hoya fight. Jr. looks Fat!

Chavez doesn't deserve anything beyond the ass-whipping he'll receive when he faces a boxer who can fight. If Oscar fights anybody again, he deserves the ass-whipping that Chavez Jr. just isn't man enough to give him. In fact, they both deserve an ass-whipping for suggesting to the public that such a match is worth making. Anybody who would buy such a fight needs an ass-whipping for "contributing to the destruction of boxing", and I deserve an ass-whipping for wasting this space in an other wise legitimate boxing forum.

-Rick

And I'm going over to Eva Longoria's house right now to demand an ass-whipping. Ohhh.....did I say that out loud?

Scartissue

scartissue wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Chavez Jr. vs De LA Hoya ?
By Edgar Gonzalez


So you beat Matt Vanda twice-big deal, what’s next? Another taxi driver?
It pisses me off how they been breast feeding Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. thru out his so-called professional career.

Chavez Jr. has a record of 38-0-1 (29KO’s) to this day; he hasn’t defended or fought for a major title yet. What’s up with that? One thing is for sure, he would never be like his father and the thing that gets me is how Chavez Jr. has the audacity to call out Oscar De La Hoya, yes De La Hoya manslaughtered your father not once but twice and what sweeter revenge than to go after Oscar. You have to admit, it is an intriguing match up and the sound of this even makes a great movie plot. But Chavez Jr. doesn’t deserve it. That’s the dream of many boxers to have the opportunity to step in the ring with a mega superstar and not to mention your biggest payday. Take Steve Forbes for example, he couldn’t believe it when they told him he was going to fight the Golden Boy, he though it was a prank.

I think Chavez Jr. needs to work on his resume first before he considers fighting some one like Oscar De La Hoya, I also think its disrespectful to other boxers who have worked so hard if Oscar even considers Chavez Jr. a worthy opponent.

Do you think Chavez Jr. deserves a fight with Oscar De La Hoya?

By the way, this picture was taken during the Manny-De La Hoya fight. Jr. looks Fat!

Chavez doesn't deserve anything beyond the ass-whipping he'll receive when he faces a boxer who can fight. If Oscar fights anybody again, he deserves the ass-whipping that Chavez Jr. just isn't man enough to give him. In fact, they both deserve an ass-whipping for suggesting to the public that such a match is worth making. Anybody who would buy such a fight needs an ass-whipping for "contributing to the destruction of boxing", and I deserve an ass-whipping for wasting this space in an other wise legitimate boxing forum.

-Rick

And I'm going over to Eva Longoria's house right now to demand an ass-whipping. Ohhh.....did I say that out loud?

Scartissue

She's tiny Scar, but I wouldn't under estimate her. She doesn't carry one ounce of fat, in fact, none of the "Housewives" do. On screen, a person will photograph heavier, so if you ever see somebody that looks slim on screen, they might appear anorexic in person. Terry Hatcher is a perfect example, she looks downright boney to the point of unhealthy off camera. Marcia cross had twins awhile back but had all excess weight off within days of their birth. Marcia isn't worried about her weight, but is fair-skinned and never in bright sunlight with out a hat and her skin covered. These women have no choice but to keep themselves right or kiss their careers good bye. Now, what was that about an ass-whipping?

-Rick

Hey, Frank, that trainer really backed himself into a corner with El Gato's flying fists whizzing by. Any idea who he is?


Dan,

That guy taking it in the chin from Rodolfo is Ralph Gilbreath, who with L.A. Rams football star Danny Villanueva was Gato's Co-manager,... before Jackie Mccoy...

Rick and Dan...ass-whipping?
You guys are not going funny on us, are you?....

El Gato dropping Claudio Adame enroute to an 8th round KO.

Marquez vs. Diaz Update
By Edgar Gonzalez


JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS. JUAN DIAZ SET FOR FEBRUARY 28TH AT HOUSTON’S TOYOTA CENTER LIVE ON HBO’S WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING

HOUSTON, January 8 - In 2008, Mexican icon Juan Manuel Marquez solidified his place among boxing’s elite and became Mexico’s number one fighter by knocking out Joel Casamayor and winning a championship in a third weight class. As 2009 opens, Marquez will not be resting on his laurels, as he accepted the challenge to face former three-time lightweight champion Juan “The Baby Bull” Diaz at Houston’s Toyota Center on Saturday, February 28th in what promises to be an early Fight of The Year candidate.

Marquez vs. Diaz, a 12 round bout for Marquez’ Ring Magazine World Lightweight Championship, is presented by Golden Boy Promotions and sponsored by Cerveza Tecate and Southwest Airlines. The world title bout will take place on February 28th from the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas and be televised live on HBO’s World Championship Boxing beginning at 10 pm ET / 7 pm PT.

Tickets for Marquez vs. Diaz, priced at $300, $150, $75, $50 and $25, go on sale Friday,

January 9 at 10 a.m. CT and are available for purchase, online at http://www.ToyotaCenterTix.com, by phone at 1-866-4-HOU-TIX and select Houston area Randalls locations. Tickets will be available at the Toyota Center Box Office starting Monday, January 12th at 9 am CT.

“This fight between Marquez and Diaz will shake the lightweight division to its core and truly determine the best 135-pounder in the world,” said Oscar de la Hoya, President of Golden Boy Promotions. “As a fan, I can’t wait to see this fight.”

“Both of these ring warriors have continuously given fight fans memorable performances,” said Kery Davis, senior vice president programming, HBO Sports. “This showdown between them will certainly feature fireworks and we’re delighted to bring it to boxing fans across the country live on HBO.”

“We are elated to welcome back Golden Boy Promotions, HBO and Houston’s own Juan Diaz to Toyota Center,” said Doug Hall, general manager of Toyota Center. “We hope the match up against Juan Manuel Marquez proves to be as exciting as both the Diaz and Juarez fights were last time.”

Mexico’s premier fighter and a future Hall of Famer, Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (49-4-1, 36 KO’s) has signified excellence for over 15 years and in three weight classes. A world champion at featherweight and junior lightweight, the 35-year-old Mexico City native made an immediate impact at 135 pounds when he won the Ring Magazine World Lightweight Championship by becoming the first man to stop Cuban great Joel Casamayor on September 13, 2008.

“Juan Diaz is a talented young fighter with a bright future,” said Marquez. “But this is still my time and I am not about to let Diaz take my belt away from me.”

Just nine years old when Marquez made his pro debut, 25-year old Juan Diaz (34-1, 17 KO’s) has roared through the pro ranks during his eight-year career and built a stellar reputation as one of the fight game’s most exciting young stars. The Former Three-Time World Lightweight Champion defended his crown seven times, beating the likes of fellow World Champions Acelino Freitas and Julio Diaz along the way. In his last bout in September of 2008, “The Baby Bull” thrilled his hometown fans at the Toyota Center with a dominant 12 round decision win over Australian warrior Michael Katsidis and in February, he returns for what he hopes is a victorious encore.

“Juan Manuel is one of the greats in the game and it’s an honor to fight him, but I will be victorious on February 28th,” said Diaz.

kikibalt wrote:Marquez vs. Diaz Update
By Edgar Gonzalez


JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS. JUAN DIAZ SET FOR FEBRUARY 28TH AT HOUSTON’S TOYOTA CENTER LIVE ON HBO’S WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING

HOUSTON, January 8 - In 2008, Mexican icon Juan Manuel Marquez solidified his place among boxing’s elite and became Mexico’s number one fighter by knocking out Joel Casamayor and winning a championship in a third weight class. As 2009 opens, Marquez will not be resting on his laurels, as he accepted the challenge to face former three-time lightweight champion Juan “The Baby Bull” Diaz at Houston’s Toyota Center on Saturday, February 28th in what promises to be an early Fight of The Year candidate.

Marquez vs. Diaz, a 12 round bout for Marquez’ Ring Magazine World Lightweight Championship, is presented by Golden Boy Promotions and sponsored by Cerveza Tecate and Southwest Airlines. The world title bout will take place on February 28th from the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas and be televised live on HBO’s World Championship Boxing beginning at 10 pm ET / 7 pm PT.

Tickets for Marquez vs. Diaz, priced at $300, $150, $75, $50 and $25, go on sale Friday,

January 9 at 10 a.m. CT and are available for purchase, online at http://www.ToyotaCenterTix.com, by phone at 1-866-4-HOU-TIX and select Houston area Randalls locations. Tickets will be available at the Toyota Center Box Office starting Monday, January 12th at 9 am CT.

“This fight between Marquez and Diaz will shake the lightweight division to its core and truly determine the best 135-pounder in the world,” said Oscar de la Hoya, President of Golden Boy Promotions. “As a fan, I can’t wait to see this fight.”

“Both of these ring warriors have continuously given fight fans memorable performances,” said Kery Davis, senior vice president programming, HBO Sports. “This showdown between them will certainly feature fireworks and we’re delighted to bring it to boxing fans across the country live on HBO.”

“We are elated to welcome back Golden Boy Promotions, HBO and Houston’s own Juan Diaz to Toyota Center,” said Doug Hall, general manager of Toyota Center. “We hope the match up against Juan Manuel Marquez proves to be as exciting as both the Diaz and Juarez fights were last time.”

Mexico’s premier fighter and a future Hall of Famer, Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (49-4-1, 36 KO’s) has signified excellence for over 15 years and in three weight classes. A world champion at featherweight and junior lightweight, the 35-year-old Mexico City native made an immediate impact at 135 pounds when he won the Ring Magazine World Lightweight Championship by becoming the first man to stop Cuban great Joel Casamayor on September 13, 2008.

“Juan Diaz is a talented young fighter with a bright future,” said Marquez. “But this is still my time and I am not about to let Diaz take my belt away from me.”

Just nine years old when Marquez made his pro debut, 25-year old Juan Diaz (34-1, 17 KO’s) has roared through the pro ranks during his eight-year career and built a stellar reputation as one of the fight game’s most exciting young stars. The Former Three-Time World Lightweight Champion defended his crown seven times, beating the likes of fellow World Champions Acelino Freitas and Julio Diaz along the way. In his last bout in September of 2008, “The Baby Bull” thrilled his hometown fans at the Toyota Center with a dominant 12 round decision win over Australian warrior Michael Katsidis and in February, he returns for what he hopes is a victorious encore.

“Juan Manuel is one of the greats in the game and it’s an honor to fight him, but I will be victorious on February 28th,” said Diaz.

Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz is a good credible opponent for Juan Manuel Marquez and he will probably give Marquez a stiff fight for a few rounds but I just don't see him beating Marquez. He's not in the same class. I compare it to Ray Mancini fighting Alexis Arguello or Paulie Ayala fighting Marco Antonio Barrera or Erik Morales. It's just a case of a good fighter fighting a great fighter.

Not that it really means anything but Diaz lost to Nate Campbell almost a year ago by a 12 round split decision. Campbell has previously lost to Francisco Lorenzo. Diaz has a good record but he hasn't faced the type of competition that Marquez has. He's certainly never faced anyone like Marquez. At 35 Marquez has shown no sign of slipping or slowing down. Diaz is a tough guy with a big heart and no real KO power. Maquez will more than likely win by a 12 round UD but it wouldn't surprise me if he stops Diaz.

Randy

Hilda Solis; Home-girl makes good, we here in La Puente are real proud of her

Solis, a woman of many firsts, had a steady rise through California's political ranks
By Rebecca Kimitch, Staff Writer


Hilda Solis' La Puente High School year book picture from 1975. (Courtesy Art)If Rep. Hilda Solis is confirmed as the the United States' first Latino labor secretary, it will be the latest in a lifetime of firsts.
Though her nomination as labor secretary may have taken some people by surprise, those who worked with her decades ago say she was a rising political star from the start, always prioritizing labor, immigration and environmental issues.

"You knew then that Hilda Solis was going to be a rising star, she had some of those qualities that you look for in leaders, she had a grasp of issues, she was a person who understood the times and knew what to do about it," said Ralph Pacheco, who served on the Rio Hondo Community College board of trustees with Solis and is now a trustee of the Whittier Union High School District.

Solis was the first person in her family to go to college, the first Latina elected to the California state Senate, the first woman to represent the San Gabriel Valley in the state Senate, the first woman to receive the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, and the first Latina appointed to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Solis's education in labor issues began when she was a child. Her Mexican-born father was a Teamster and worked for the Quemetco battery recycling plant in Industry. Her Nicaraguan-born mother worked on an assembly line making toys.

Solis declined to be interviewed for this story, with her staff citing a request by Barack Obama's transition team to avoid media contact.

As a student at La Puente High School in the early 1970s, Solis said she saw "a great lack of support" for teenagers in the San Gabriel Valley wishing to go to college.

She is the first in her family to go to college.

In addition to a bachelor's degree in political science from Cal Poly Pomona, Solis earned a master's degree in public administration from USC.

While studying at the latter, Solis got her initial taste of Washington, working in

Hilda Solis served as a member of the Rio Hondo College Board of Trustees from 1985-1992. California Rep. Hilda Solis was named by President-Elect Barak Obama as his labor secretary. (Courtesy Art)the Carter White House Office of Hispanic Affairs. She was later appointed as a management analyst with the Office of Management and Budget in the Civil Rights Division.
By age 28, Solis was ready to run for her first office. She had returned from Washington and was directing a state program aimed at helping San Gabriel Valley students go to college. She decided to take those efforts one step further by running for the Rio Hondo board of trustees.

"What good is a (college) degree if you can't get a job?" she asked during her victorious campaign.

El Monte councilwoman Emily Ishigaki first met Solis through the El Monte Business and Professional Women group before her bid for the Rio Hondo board.

"There is something about a person that you see from the very beginning, she is sincere, keeps her word, she aggressively pursuits what she believes is right... She knew what she was going to do, what she was able to accomplish. Even as a Republican, I believed that from the start," Ishigaki said.

During her seven years on the Rio Hondo board, Solis worked to improve vocational job training at the community college and increase the representation of women and minorities in tenured positions at the school, according to colleagues.

In 1992, at age 34, Solis successfully ran for the California state Assembly.

She had the early support of Los Angeles County Supervisor Gloria Molina and then congresswoman Barbara Boxer. The three walked precincts together.

"Hilda Solis practices the type of grassroots politics that... promotes community and empowerment," Molina said at the time.

While serving on the Assembly, Solis became one of the loudest voices in the immigration debate. She backed a controversial bill to enforce a court ruling that undocumented immigrants may attend college if they have established California residency.

"(I) believe that keeping the doors of opportunity open for all Californians can solve many of our social and economic problems," she wrote.

She also headed up a new committee in the Assembly on groundwater contamination and landfill leakage, and served on the committees of higher education, environmental

California State Assembly Hilda Solis pictured in 1993. (Courtesy Art)safety, and labor and unemployment.
After two years in the Assembly, in 1994, Solis became the first woman state senator from the San Gabriel Valley and the first female Latino in the state Senate.

While there, she led the effort to increase the state's minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.75, an initiative fiercely opposed by chambers of commerce and the restaurant industry, which said it would derail the economy.

A state raid of a sweatshop in El Monte in 1995 also gave her a firsthand glimpse of the realities of the labor sector. Authorities shut down an illegal sewing factory that had thrived on forced labor from approximately 70 undocumented Thai immigrants and had been operating for years.

Solis held a hearing on the raid and responded with demands for tougher labor laws and more money to enforce existing laws.

In 2000, the same year Solis was elected to Congress, she became the first woman to win a John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award for her work on environmental justice issues.

"From the start, she has been a change agent, and throughout the years she has been a catalyst for change," Pacheco said. "So it doesn't come as any surprise to me, that her trajectory, has gone higher and higher each decade, as time goes on."

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kikibalt wrote:Rick and Dan...ass-whipping?
You guys are not going funny on us, are you?....

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Chavez Jr. vs De LA Hoya ?
By Edgar Gonzalez


So you beat Matt Vanda twice-big deal, what’s next? Another taxi driver?
It pisses me off how they been breast feeding Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. thru out his so-called professional career.

Chavez Jr. has a record of 38-0-1 (29KO’s) to this day; he hasn’t defended or fought for a major title yet. What’s up with that? One thing is for sure, he would never be like his father and the thing that gets me is how Chavez Jr. has the audacity to call out Oscar De La Hoya, yes De La Hoya manslaughtered your father not once but twice and what sweeter revenge than to go after Oscar. You have to admit, it is an intriguing match up and the sound of this even makes a great movie plot. But Chavez Jr. doesn’t deserve it. That’s the dream of many boxers to have the opportunity to step in the ring with a mega superstar and not to mention your biggest payday. Take Steve Forbes for example, he couldn’t believe it when they told him he was going to fight the Golden Boy, he though it was a prank.

I think Chavez Jr. needs to work on his resume first before he considers fighting some one like Oscar De La Hoya, I also think its disrespectful to other boxers who have worked so hard if Oscar even considers Chavez Jr. a worthy opponent.

Do you think Chavez Jr. deserves a fight with Oscar De La Hoya?

By the way, this picture was taken during the Manny-De La Hoya fight. Jr. looks Fat!

Chavez doesn't deserve anything beyond the ass-whipping he'll receive when he faces a boxer who can fight. If Oscar fights anybody again, he deserves the ass-whipping that Chavez Jr. just isn't man enough to give him. In fact, they both deserve an ass-whipping for suggesting to the public that such a match is worth making. Anybody who would buy such a fight needs an ass-whipping for "contributing to the destruction of boxing", and I deserve an ass-whipping for wasting this space in an other wise legitimate boxing forum.

-Rick

Starting out your career in Mexico as the son of Julio Cesar Chavez is the equivalent of starting out your career with an Olympic Gold medal, without ever having to prove yourself.

kikibalt wrote:
El Gato dropping Claudio Adame enroute to an 8th round KO.

This is one I saw live at the old Long Beach Auditorium, which was torn down in 1972 to make way for redevelopment plans in Long Beach harbor. I came to see my stablemate, Raul "Chilo" Carranza in the six-round semi. However, the main event was a shutout for Gonzalez. I remember "El Gato" dominating the tough veteran before taking him out. I believe the fight retired Adame, who I would see shortly afterwards training boxers at the Main St. Gym. Claudio quickly gained more than 100 lbs. after he quit. Before he'd work with boxers in the gym, he'd put on rubber sweatsuit and workout hard on the bags, shadow boxing, skipping rope. I saw him do this often but he never appeared to lose any weight. It would be nearly a half dozen years before Rodolfo Gonzalez would get his title shot.

-Rick Farris

El Gato wrote:First of all---

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you. It has been a very long time since I have written.

When I read these most recent posts from all of you, it was very heartwarming. I am honored that you thought so much about my boxing style. As for the Carmona fight, I don't know if I told you this before but Jackie McCoy told me right after the second round to just carry him on. I could have knocked him out in the early rounds but, I was really just having fun practicing my side steps.This was the style I had to use to handle Carmona and make the fight easier for me. Jackie and I had spotted his weakness during a sparring session a week before the fight. If you put pressure on Carmona and pushed him back he was lost. If you let him come to you you better get out of the ring. He had a good liver punch and I did not want him to use it. To tell you the truth, this was one of the easiest fights of my boxing career.

However, since I was 3 to 1 underdog, the gamblers were betting heavy on Carmona. Apparently, it was one of these guys that broke through security as I was walking away from the ring and caught all of us off guard. He punched me so hard in the stomach that he put me down on the floor. In that respect, the fight wasn't a piece of cake.

El Gato

Gato, meeting you and shaking your hand at Mando Ramos' funeral service and again at the World Boxing Hall of Fame last November was a real honor. The really great ones always remain humble. Thanks for writing on this thread.

Randy

In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Guys, I just got through eating a big Porterhouse Steak, medium rare, with grilled onions and a baked potato. Jeri grilled it to perfection. The Filet Mignon is good but I'll take a Porterhouse or a New York strip anytime. All it needs is a little salt and pepper. Needles to say, I'm stuffed!

Randy

kikibalt wrote:In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Frank, you have done just about everything in boxing at one time or another. You've really earned your California Boxing Hall of Fame induction. Do you have any television footage of those fights (and your commentary)?

Randy

Hap, I was browsing through that other boxing forum earlier today and I saw where you asked if I was related to Placido De La O. Up until Frank asked me that question about a year ago I had never heard of him. However last year, through my family genealogy research, I came in contact with his daughter. We think there maybe a connection but nothing has been proven. At the California Boxing Hall of Fame last year, Cali Martinez asked me the same question. Turns out they were friends.

What I did discover was that Placido just vanished into thin air sometime in the 1950's. No one, friends, family or the police ever found out what happened to him. It's still a mystery all these years later.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

Hap, I'm not sure if I asked you this already but did you know my uncle Larry De La O?

Randy

kikibalt wrote:In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Frank . . . I remember those Ch.34 broadcasts. I also recall Ruben Navarro refereeing one Sunday. They held the fights outdoors during the daytime. In fact, I have a photo of Ruben seperating two juniors during one of those bouts. The photo is part of the '69 Western Reg. Golden Gloves Finals program, on the back page. It was a good idea, I thought. The kids really put on a great show.

-Rick Farris

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Frank, you have done just about everything in boxing at one time or another. You've really earned your California Boxing Hall of Fame induction. Do you have any television footage of those fights (and your commentary)?

Randy

No, Randy. I don't even know if they were putting the show on film or what ever they had back then, I would love to see the show on tape/dvd.
It actually was a tournament that we ran, the kids were given jackets, at the end the champions were given a U.S. Savings Bond.....It was fun.....

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Frank . . . I remember those Ch.34 broadcasts. I also recall Ruben Navarro refereeing one Sunday. They held the fights outdoors during the daytime. In fact, I have a photo of Ruben seperating two juniors during one of those bouts. The photo is part of the '69 Western Reg. Golden Gloves Finals program, on the back page. It was a good idea, I thought. The kids really put on a great show.

-Rick Farris

Rick...How come you didn't fight in those show? were you to old by then for the Jr.?

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:In 1969, Danny Villanueva who was co-manager of Gato Gonzalez was the general manager of KMEX Ch.34, called me and ask if I with others that were involved in runnig the jr. program would meet with him, said that he was thinking of staging a jr. boxing program on Sundays, we had the meet and put on a show every Sunday for 13 weeks, the fights were outside on the parking lot, Danny and I were doing the commentary on TV.
Gato and Ruben Navarro et. al. were doing the referring.

Frank, you have done just about everything in boxing at one time or another. You've really earned your California Boxing Hall of Fame induction. Do you have any television footage of those fights (and your commentary)?

Randy

No, Randy. I don't even know if they were putting the show on film or what ever they had back then, I would love to see the show on tape/dvd.
It actually was a tournament that we ran, the kids were given jackets, at the end the champions were given a U.S. Savings Bond.....It was fun.....

Frank, I know I mentioned it to you before but my biggest regret is that I never fought amateur. One of the best part of this thread is when you and Rick reminisce about the old amateur days around Los Angeles, especially the old photos. I guess things work out the way they are supposed to.

Randy