Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Randyman]

Thanks Randy
You know Napoles was my favorite fighter of all time. I saw the first fight on Mexican television. I could see my favorite fighter being second best in the ring that night. I kept thinking Jose was going to come up with something,but when he started to foul Mando I knew Jose's tank was running dry.

The second fight took everything else Jose had as a fighter out of him for good.His next fight against Stracey was humiliating. I know how you felt when Oscar lost against PacMan. I felt the same way after Jose lost his title to Stracey. Once in a while I'll look at the tape of that fight.

It still ends the same way. :(

It can be painful Rog, guys like us and the rest of the guys on this thread, we get attached to our fighters. Duran is my all time favorite fighter, as you might know, and watching him get knocked cold by Tommy Hearns was a heart breaker. I just knew that when Duran was lying face down and could not get up, that they were going to use that as an excuse to give the fight to Hearns.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Mother Teresa

[bennie]

Thanks Randy
You know Napoles was my favorite fighter of all time. I saw the first fight on Mexican television. I could see my favorite fighter being second best in the ring that night. I kept thinking Jose was going to come up with something,but when he started to foul Mando I knew Jose's tank was running dry.

The second fight took everything else Jose had as a fighter out of him for good.His next fight against Stracey was humiliating. I know how you felt when Oscar lost against PacMan. I felt the same way after Jose lost his title to Stracey. Once in a while I'll look at the tape of that fight.

It still ends the same way. :(

It can be painful Rog, guys like us and the rest of the guys on this thread, we get attached to our fighters. Duran is my all time favorite fighter, as you might know, and watching him get knocked cold by Tommy Hearns was a heart breaker. I just knew that when Duran was lying face down and could not get up, that they were going to use that as an excuse to give the fight to Hearns.

Randy

I think when a great fighter jumps up not one - but THREE divisons - that greatness allows him to get away with it most of the time. Then he meets someone who is just too big...

[Randyman]

Two of Frankie's fights can be seen in their entirety on my blog. The Chango Cruz and Juan Escobar fights. I'll be posting the rest of them soon. I put them on custom players to make them easier to watch.
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... ar-jr.html

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Good morning Ben. Or should I say good afternoon? Would sure like to return to the "city" section of London to that little pub. The Cockpit. Two blocks down from St. Pauls. Good conversation. Regular people. The papers spread out on the tables. The old bull dog resting out front. No loud music. Just good conversation. The same crowd in there after work every day. No rowdy stuff. Like I said, just good conversation. Got to drink something cold though. Can't get used to the warm stuff. Cheers my friend.

It's nine in the morning here, Rog. What time is it there? You ought to try Ireland, some time, for good conversation and good pubs.

My sister went to Ireland. Said the same thing.Bennie,we have what they call a "Hospitality Park" here in San Diego. It's part of the larger city park called Balboa Park. At the "Hospitality Park" there a 20 cottages representing different countries. The Irish cottage is by far the most lively. Musicians,a fire place,lots of atmoshere. Me and the grandson like to drink hot cider and stay for a while everytime we visit Balboa Park.

[kikibalt]

Two of Frankie's fights can be seen in their entirety on my blog. The Chango Cruz and Juan Escobar fights. I'll be posting the rest of them soon. I put them on custom players to make them easier to watch.
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... ar-jr.html

Randy

Thanks Randy, a lot easier to watch for sure.....

[bennie]

Good morning Ben. Or should I say good afternoon? Would sure like to return to the "city" section of London to that little pub. The Cockpit. Two blocks down from St. Pauls. Good conversation. Regular people. The papers spread out on the tables. The old bull dog resting out front. No loud music. Just good conversation. The same crowd in there after work every day. No rowdy stuff. Like I said, just good conversation. Got to drink something cold though. Can't get used to the warm stuff. Cheers my friend.

It's nine in the morning here, Rog. What time is it there? You ought to try Ireland, some time, for good conversation and good pubs.

My sister went to Ireland. Said the same thing.Bennie,we have what they call a "Hospitality Park" here in San Diego. It's part of the larger city park called Balboa Park. At the "Hospitality Park" there a 20 cottages representing different countries. The Irish cottage is by far the most lively. Musicians,a fire place,lots of atmoshere. Me and the grandson like to drink hot cider and stay for a while everytime we visit Balboa Park.

Aye, you haven't lived until you've been pissed (drunk as a skunk) in an Irish village.

[dagosd2000]

Thanks Randy
You know Napoles was my favorite fighter of all time. I saw the first fight on Mexican television. I could see my favorite fighter being second best in the ring that night. I kept thinking Jose was going to come up with something,but when he started to foul Mando I knew Jose's tank was running dry.

The second fight took everything else Jose had as a fighter out of him for good.His next fight against Stracey was humiliating. I know how you felt when Oscar lost against PacMan. I felt the same way after Jose lost his title to Stracey. Once in a while I'll look at the tape of that fight.

It still ends the same way. :(

It can be painful Rog, guys like us and the rest of the guys on this thread, we get attached to our fighters. Duran is my all time favorite fighter, as you might know, and watching him get knocked cold by Tommy Hearns was a heart breaker. I just knew that when Duran was lying face down and could not get up, that they were going to use that as an excuse to give the fight to Hearns.

Randy

I think when a great fighter jumps up not one - but THREE divisons - that greatness allows him to get away with it most of the time. Then he meets someone who is just too big...

Very true. Robinson was very crafty against Joey Maxim. Even though Joey wasn't a big hitter,Robby didn't want to engage him toe to toe. I like when people say that the "heat" beat Robinson that night. I always answer back,"The heat and Joey Maxim."

[dagosd2000]

Hey Bennie
As friendly as those chaps seem to be,I'll go to the bathroom when I get home.

[Randyman]

Thanks Randy
You know Napoles was my favorite fighter of all time. I saw the first fight on Mexican television. I could see my favorite fighter being second best in the ring that night. I kept thinking Jose was going to come up with something,but when he started to foul Mando I knew Jose's tank was running dry.

The second fight took everything else Jose had as a fighter out of him for good.His next fight against Stracey was humiliating. I know how you felt when Oscar lost against PacMan. I felt the same way after Jose lost his title to Stracey. Once in a while I'll look at the tape of that fight.

It still ends the same way. :(

It can be painful Rog, guys like us and the rest of the guys on this thread, we get attached to our fighters. Duran is my all time favorite fighter, as you might know, and watching him get knocked cold by Tommy Hearns was a heart breaker. I just knew that when Duran was lying face down and could not get up, that they were going to use that as an excuse to give the fight to Hearns.

Randy

I think when a great fighter jumps up not one - but THREE divisons - that greatness allows him to get away with it most of the time. Then he meets someone who is just too big...

I agree. Hearns was just too big a man for Duran. Having said that, Duran had the same look in his eyes coming into the ring to fight Hearns, that he did when he fought Leonard in the rematch . Confused, bewildered, and distant. Sometimes a fighter can be having the worst day of his life, while his opponent is have the best day of his life. It's a job. I have gone to work on a bad day and everything turns to shit. When you step into the ring on a bad day there is no hiding it, no sweeping it under the rug. I think Duran was having a bad day at work. Hearns? He was having a great day. Clocked in, did his job, clocked out and went home.

It was the Duran fight, by the way, that convinced Hearns, his people and just about everyone else, that he would beat Marvin Hagler, who had also beat Duran, albeit by a close and cautious 15 round UD against Duran. A tough day at work for Hearns.

[Randyman]

Two of Frankie's fights can be seen in their entirety on my blog. The Chango Cruz and Juan Escobar fights. I'll be posting the rest of them soon. I put them on custom players to make them easier to watch.
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... ar-jr.html

Randy

Thanks Randy, a lot easier to watch for sure.....

[kikibalt]

You guys remember Dick Lane? I'm sure you do...

Dick Lane (TV announcer)
From Wikipedia.

Richard Lane (May 28, 1899 – September 5, 1982), more commonly known as Dick Lane, was a television announcer and actor who made his mark broadcasting wrestling and roller derby shows on KTLA, mainly from the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.

Early years
Lane was born in 1899 in Rice Lake, Wisconsin to a farm family. Early in life he developed talents for reciting poetry and doing various song-and-dance acts. By his teenage years, he was doing an "iron jaw" routine in circuses around Europe and worked as a drummer touring with a band in Australia. After the decline of Vaudeville, Lane obtained extensive work in motion pictures and was best known at the time for playing Inspector Farraday in some Boston Blackie features.

During World War II, he appeared as MC with USO troupes entertaining G.I's. His unit appeared at Ft. Mc Arthur in September 1944.

Lane also announced for the Jalopy Derby and Destruction Derby at Gardena Stadium.

Work with KTLA
Due to his work at Paramount Pictures, Lane was able to obtain work at KTLA, which was owned by the studio at the time. When the station went commercial for the first time in 1947, Lane started work as a news presenter. One of the early highlights of his career was to report on the first atomic explosion covered by a television newscast.

When KTLA agreed to broadcast wrestling matches from the Olympic Auditorium in 1946, Lane was hired to comment on the action. He started announcing for Roller Derby in 1951, and for Roller Games in the 1960s. His broadcasts featured such personalities as Gorgeous George, Mr. Moto (wrestler) and Doc Grable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was Lane and not former ABC sports announcer Keith Jackson who coined the exclamatory expression "Whoa, Nellie!" when something "bad" happened in the ring or on the track.[1] Lane was also the character "Leather Britches" on the Spade Colley show on KTLA.

Later Years
After Lane retired from television full time in 1972, he accepted few offers for work, but did make a notable cameo appearance in Raquel Welch's film Kansas City Bomber. Lane died in Newport Beach, California on September 5, 1982.

I take it nobody remembers Dick "Whoa, Nellie" Lane

[Randyman]

Good morning Ben. Or should I say good afternoon? Would sure like to return to the "city" section of London to that little pub. The Cockpit. Two blocks down from St. Pauls. Good conversation. Regular people. The papers spread out on the tables. The old bull dog resting out front. No loud music. Just good conversation. The same crowd in there after work every day. No rowdy stuff. Like I said, just good conversation. Got to drink something cold though. Can't get used to the warm stuff. Cheers my friend.

It's nine in the morning here, Rog. What time is it there? You ought to try Ireland, some time, for good conversation and good pubs.

My sister went to Ireland. Said the same thing.Bennie,we have what they call a "Hospitality Park" here in San Diego. It's part of the larger city park called Balboa Park. At the "Hospitality Park" there a 20 cottages representing different countries. The Irish cottage is by far the most lively. Musicians,a fire place,lots of atmoshere. Me and the grandson like to drink hot cider and stay for a while everytime we visit Balboa Park.

Ireland, as well as England, is on my "Places to visit before I die" list. Someday Jeri and I will cross the pond.

Speaking of Ireland and cottages, does anyone here like "The Quiet Man" with John Wayne, Maureen O'Hara and Victor McLaglen, Barry Fitzerald and Ward Bond?

[dagosd2000]

You guys remember Dick Lane? I'm sure you do...

Dick Lane (TV announcer)
From Wikipedia.

Richard Lane (May 28, 1899 – September 5, 1982), more commonly known as Dick Lane, was a television announcer and actor who made his mark broadcasting wrestling and roller derby shows on KTLA, mainly from the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.

Early years
Lane was born in 1899 in Rice Lake, Wisconsin to a farm family. Early in life he developed talents for reciting poetry and doing various song-and-dance acts. By his teenage years, he was doing an "iron jaw" routine in circuses around Europe and worked as a drummer touring with a band in Australia. After the decline of Vaudeville, Lane obtained extensive work in motion pictures and was best known at the time for playing Inspector Farraday in some Boston Blackie features.

During World War II, he appeared as MC with USO troupes entertaining G.I's. His unit appeared at Ft. Mc Arthur in September 1944.

Lane also announced for the Jalopy Derby and Destruction Derby at Gardena Stadium.

Work with KTLA
Due to his work at Paramount Pictures, Lane was able to obtain work at KTLA, which was owned by the studio at the time. When the station went commercial for the first time in 1947, Lane started work as a news presenter. One of the early highlights of his career was to report on the first atomic explosion covered by a television newscast.

When KTLA agreed to broadcast wrestling matches from the Olympic Auditorium in 1946, Lane was hired to comment on the action. He started announcing for Roller Derby in 1951, and for Roller Games in the 1960s. His broadcasts featured such personalities as Gorgeous George, Mr. Moto (wrestler) and Doc Grable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was Lane and not former ABC sports announcer Keith Jackson who coined the exclamatory expression "Whoa, Nellie!" when something "bad" happened in the ring or on the track.[1] Lane was also the character "Leather Britches" on the Spade Colley show on KTLA.

Later Years
After Lane retired from television full time in 1972, he accepted few offers for work, but did make a notable cameo appearance in Raquel Welch's film Kansas City Bomber. Lane died in Newport Beach, California on September 5, 1982.

I take it nobody remembers Dick "Whoa, Nellie" Lane

Frank
As kids we grew up watching Dick Lane with the T Birds and the wrestling shows. Talk about a salesman. if you didn't know any better,you thought Roller Derby and wrestling was on the level. A lot of those people that went to those shows thought they were for real.

[Randyman]

You guys remember Dick Lane? I'm sure you do...

Dick Lane (TV announcer)
From Wikipedia.

Richard Lane (May 28, 1899 – September 5, 1982), more commonly known as Dick Lane, was a television announcer and actor who made his mark broadcasting wrestling and roller derby shows on KTLA, mainly from the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.

Early years
Lane was born in 1899 in Rice Lake, Wisconsin to a farm family. Early in life he developed talents for reciting poetry and doing various song-and-dance acts. By his teenage years, he was doing an "iron jaw" routine in circuses around Europe and worked as a drummer touring with a band in Australia. After the decline of Vaudeville, Lane obtained extensive work in motion pictures and was best known at the time for playing Inspector Farraday in some Boston Blackie features.

During World War II, he appeared as MC with USO troupes entertaining G.I's. His unit appeared at Ft. Mc Arthur in September 1944.

Lane also announced for the Jalopy Derby and Destruction Derby at Gardena Stadium.

Work with KTLA
Due to his work at Paramount Pictures, Lane was able to obtain work at KTLA, which was owned by the studio at the time. When the station went commercial for the first time in 1947, Lane started work as a news presenter. One of the early highlights of his career was to report on the first atomic explosion covered by a television newscast.

When KTLA agreed to broadcast wrestling matches from the Olympic Auditorium in 1946, Lane was hired to comment on the action. He started announcing for Roller Derby in 1951, and for Roller Games in the 1960s. His broadcasts featured such personalities as Gorgeous George, Mr. Moto (wrestler) and Doc Grable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was Lane and not former ABC sports announcer Keith Jackson who coined the exclamatory expression "Whoa, Nellie!" when something "bad" happened in the ring or on the track.[1] Lane was also the character "Leather Britches" on the Spade Colley show on KTLA.

Later Years
After Lane retired from television full time in 1972, he accepted few offers for work, but did make a notable cameo appearance in Raquel Welch's film Kansas City Bomber. Lane died in Newport Beach, California on September 5, 1982.

I take it nobody remembers Dick "Whoa, Nellie" Lane

I remember him Frank, and "Whoa, Nellie". My great Grandmother, who lived on Pecan Street in Boyle Heights, was glued to the TV when wrestling was on. That's how I remember her, a cigarette hanging from her mouth, with Dick Lane and wrestling in the background.

By the way, I don't think I mentioned it before but Gil Cadilli lived across the street from my Grandmother on Pecan st, according to my mother.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Randy
I was thinking of this the other day. I'm not a giant fan of John Wayne. I thought most of his movies were kind of routine,but three of them were excellent. Stagecoach(the model for Gunsmoke),The Shootist,and The Quiet Man. Vic McLaglin was one of my favorites along with Barry Fitzgerald.

[kikibalt]

Some of my fondest memories as a kid (mid-late 1940's) are riding my bike from the bickyard we used to live at, it was in South Montebello, my buddys and I would ride about 2 miles to Olympic Blvd., behind Montebello Park and sit outside a furniture store that after closing would leave a TV on by the window and we would watch wresting from the Olympic with Dick Lane on the mike.

Btw the tv was like a 9'' b&w, later it was a 13''

[dagosd2000]

You guys remember Dick Lane? I'm sure you do...

Dick Lane (TV announcer)
From Wikipedia.

Richard Lane (May 28, 1899 – September 5, 1982), more commonly known as Dick Lane, was a television announcer and actor who made his mark broadcasting wrestling and roller derby shows on KTLA, mainly from the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.

Early years
Lane was born in 1899 in Rice Lake, Wisconsin to a farm family. Early in life he developed talents for reciting poetry and doing various song-and-dance acts. By his teenage years, he was doing an "iron jaw" routine in circuses around Europe and worked as a drummer touring with a band in Australia. After the decline of Vaudeville, Lane obtained extensive work in motion pictures and was best known at the time for playing Inspector Farraday in some Boston Blackie features.

During World War II, he appeared as MC with USO troupes entertaining G.I's. His unit appeared at Ft. Mc Arthur in September 1944.

Lane also announced for the Jalopy Derby and Destruction Derby at Gardena Stadium.

Work with KTLA
Due to his work at Paramount Pictures, Lane was able to obtain work at KTLA, which was owned by the studio at the time. When the station went commercial for the first time in 1947, Lane started work as a news presenter. One of the early highlights of his career was to report on the first atomic explosion covered by a television newscast.

When KTLA agreed to broadcast wrestling matches from the Olympic Auditorium in 1946, Lane was hired to comment on the action. He started announcing for Roller Derby in 1951, and for Roller Games in the 1960s. His broadcasts featured such personalities as Gorgeous George, Mr. Moto (wrestler) and Doc Grable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was Lane and not former ABC sports announcer Keith Jackson who coined the exclamatory expression "Whoa, Nellie!" when something "bad" happened in the ring or on the track.[1] Lane was also the character "Leather Britches" on the Spade Colley show on KTLA.

Later Years
After Lane retired from television full time in 1972, he accepted few offers for work, but did make a notable cameo appearance in Raquel Welch's film Kansas City Bomber. Lane died in Newport Beach, California on September 5, 1982.

I take it nobody remembers Dick "Whoa, Nellie" Lane

I remember him Frank, and "Whoa, Nellie". My great Grandmother, who lived on Pecan Street in Boyle Heights, was glued to the TV when wrestling was on. That's how I remember her, a cigarette hanging from her mouth, with Dick Lane and wrestling in the background.

By the way, I don't think I mentioned it before but Gil Cadilli lived across the street from my Grandmother on Pecan st, according to my mother.

Randy

Randy
Isn't it funny that a lot of the old ladies were big fans of wrestling. My aunt was a big Verne Gagne fan. Never missed a wrestling match on TV.

[Randyman]

Mother Teresa

Hauntingly Beautiful Rog. God Bless this great woman!

[Randyman]

Randy
Isn't it funny that a lot of the old ladies were big fans of wrestling. My aunt was a big Verne Gagne fan. Never missed a wrestling match on TV.

Great Grandmother Victoria, just try and tell her it's not real! God rest her soul.

[Randyman]

Some of my fondest memories as a kid (mid-late 1940's) are riding my bike from the bickyard we used to live at, it was in South Montebello, my buddys and I would ride about 2 miles to Olympic Blvd., behind Montebello Park and sit outside a furniture store that after closing would leave a TV on by the window and we would watch wresting from the Olympic with Dick Lane on the mike.

Btw the tv was like a 9'' b&w, later it was a 3''

Those are good memories Frank. Kids today won't have those kinds of memories. It was a free life for kids back in the day.

Randy

[bennie]

Connemara, where they filmed The Quiet Man, is the place I would most recommend in Ireland. That shot there, where Wayne and Barry Fitzgerald go over a bridge on a pony and trap at the start of the film, is shot in Oughterard.
I've stood on that bridge.

[Randyman]

Guys, I'm off to Spring Valley Lake in the High Desert to visit my mother. She took a fall during the week and hurt her shoulder. She'll be 80 this year. I'm trying to get her to sell the house and move back "down the hill". We'll be back tomorrow night. Have a great weekend! You guys are the best!!!
Randy

[Randyman]

Connemara, where they filmed The Quiet Man, is the place I would most recommend in Ireland. That shot there, where Wayne and Barry Fitzgerald go over a bridge on a pony and trap at the start of the film, is shot in Oughterard.
I've stood on that bridge.

That will be my first destination!!!

[dagosd2000]

Mother Teresa

Hauntingly Beautiful Rog. God Bless this great woman!

She walked the walk and talked the talk. Used to visit the sick and dying at the La Mesa Penitentiary in Tijuana. The whole place would behave when she showed up. All you could hear were cries of "Madre. Madre."

When Time Mag gave Princess Diana the "Woman Of The Year" award(the year they both died), I thought it was unfair. But then again Mother Teresa wouldn't have cared. I don't thimk Diana would have either. Diana probably would have handed the trophy over to Mother Teresa anyway.