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TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 12:01

emallini wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 17:00

jimmystone wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 02:32

Why would you fly all the way from Portugal for a press conference you were not contractually obliged to attend and would draw no benefit from whatsoever? Whyte would be disrespecting himself by showing up IMO and that's a lot worse than 'disrespecting' the YouTubers who are making a living out of his sweat.

Such a weird opinion. Everyone turns up for press conferences.

If Whytes purse is fixed and he isn't getting any PPV money (This is what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong), then I don't see why he should turn up to promote the fight and make everyone else money when he doesn't have to. "Everyone turns up for press conferences" is a flimsy argument. I think Whyte outplayed them and caught them by surprise and having no build up between the fighters will definitely affect PPV sales. I'm sure this will be rectified in future contracts because Wazza got stung here by Whyte. I wonder if mandatory attendance at press conferences and press interviews can be put into contracts.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 14:46

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 12:01

emallini wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 17:00

Such a weird opinion. Everyone turns up for press conferences.

If Whytes purse is fixed and he isn't getting any PPV money (This is what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong), then I don't see why he should turn up to promote the fight and make everyone else money when he doesn't have to. "Everyone turns up for press conferences" is a flimsy argument. I think Whyte outplayed them and caught them by surprise and having no build up between the fighters will definitely affect PPV sales. I'm sure this will be rectified in future contracts because Wazza got stung here by Whyte. I wonder if mandatory attendance at press conferences and press interviews can be put into contracts.

Don’t forget this fight is being staged under a purse bid. I can’t see those things being put in a purse bid contract.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 17:44

Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 14:46

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 12:01

If Whytes purse is fixed and he isn't getting any PPV money (This is what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong), then I don't see why he should turn up to promote the fight and make everyone else money when he doesn't have to. "Everyone turns up for press conferences" is a flimsy argument. I think Whyte outplayed them and caught them by surprise and having no build up between the fighters will definitely affect PPV sales. I'm sure this will be rectified in future contracts because Wazza got stung here by Whyte. I wonder if mandatory attendance at press conferences and press interviews can be put into contracts.

Don’t forget this fight is being staged under a purse bid. I can’t see those things being put in a purse bid contract.

The contract was signed after the purse bid was won.

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:14 Hopefully not talking trash like a pissed up 14 yr old off the estate will catch on.

Whyte could be setting a new trend; similar to the old time fighters who showed respect to their opponents.

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:14 Hopefully not talking trash like a pissed up 14 yr old off the estate will catch on.

Whyte could be setting a new trend; similar to the old time fighters who showed respect to their opponents.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 17:44

Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 14:46

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 12:01

If Whytes purse is fixed and he isn't getting any PPV money (This is what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong), then I don't see why he should turn up to promote the fight and make everyone else money when he doesn't have to. "Everyone turns up for press conferences" is a flimsy argument. I think Whyte outplayed them and caught them by surprise and having no build up between the fighters will definitely affect PPV sales. I'm sure this will be rectified in future contracts because Wazza got stung here by Whyte. I wonder if mandatory attendance at press conferences and press interviews can be put into contracts.

Don’t forget this fight is being staged under a purse bid. I can’t see those things being put in a purse bid contract.

The contract was signed after the purse bid was won.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:38

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 17:44

Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 14:46

Don’t forget this fight is being staged under a purse bid. I can’t see those things being put in a purse bid contract.

The contract was signed after the purse bid was won.

So it wasn’t a standard purse bid contract?

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:14 Hopefully not talking trash like a pissed up 14 yr old off the estate will catch on.

Whyte could be setting a new trend; similar to the old time fighters who showed respect to their opponents.

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:44

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:38

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2022, 17:44

The contract was signed after the purse bid was won.

So it wasn’t a standard purse bid contract?

It was a standard contract. They tried a non-standard contract which was rejected.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:34

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:44

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:38

So it wasn’t a standard purse bid contract?

It was a standard contract. They tried a non-standard contract which was rejected.

Exactly.

Whyte has signed a standard purse bid contract in which no stipulation is made for him to attend press conferences etc.

As I said earlier, I can’t see standard purse bid contracts being changed to include this.

The whole point of them is to provide a basic framework to work under, when two parties haven’t been able to otherwise reach an agreement.

Whyte is under no obligation, moral or legal, to build the fight.

He’s not happy with the terms. Why would he?

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:34

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:44

It was a standard contract. They tried a non-standard contract which was rejected.

Exactly.

Whyte has signed a standard purse bid contract in which no stipulation is made for him to attend press conferences etc.

As I said earlier, I can’t see standard purse bid contracts being changed to include this.

The whole point of them is to provide a basic framework to work under, when two parties haven’t been able to otherwise reach an agreement.

Whyte is under no obligation, moral or legal, to build the fight.

He’s not happy with the terms. Why would he?

I don’t really disagree. There might be something vague in the contract whereby the fighters should help in the promotion hence Frank threatening to get his lawyers involved.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:40

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:34

Exactly.

Whyte has signed a standard purse bid contract in which no stipulation is made for him to attend press conferences etc.

As I said earlier, I can’t see standard purse bid contracts being changed to include this.

The whole point of them is to provide a basic framework to work under, when two parties haven’t been able to otherwise reach an agreement.

Whyte is under no obligation, moral or legal, to build the fight.

He’s not happy with the terms. Why would he?

I don’t really disagree. There might be something vague in the contract whereby the fighters should help in the promotion hence Frank threatening to get his lawyers involved.

I don’t think I’ve heard of any contracts which have a ‘attend all press’ clause.

Maybe they do, but we just don’t hear about them.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:06

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:14 Hopefully not talking trash like a pissed up 14 yr old off the estate will catch on.

Whyte could be setting a new trend; similar to the old time fighters who showed respect to their opponents.

Old time fighters weren’t able to manipulate social media and 24hr news channels to publicise their fights and increase their share of the spoils.

I’m sure that 99% of fighters would rather lock themselves away in camp and not have to do any of the media nonsense or manufacture fake beefs with opponents if by doing so their purse was unaffected.

I’m also sure that 99% of fighters will happily engage in trash talk and play the media game if it increases their earnings. In the PPV world we live in controversy and faux enmity attracts viewers

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:47

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 04:14 Hopefully not talking trash like a pissed up 14 yr old off the estate will catch on.

Whyte could be setting a new trend; similar to the old time fighters who showed respect to their opponents.

except, he’s not doing it to show respect.

And Yu won’t see this often. If he an any upside of the PPV, he’d be at the presser.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:40

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:34

Exactly.

Whyte has signed a standard purse bid contract in which no stipulation is made for him to attend press conferences etc.

As I said earlier, I can’t see standard purse bid contracts being changed to include this.

The whole point of them is to provide a basic framework to work under, when two parties haven’t been able to otherwise reach an agreement.

Whyte is under no obligation, moral or legal, to build the fight.

He’s not happy with the terms. Why would he?

I don’t really disagree. There might be something vague in the contract whereby the fighters should help in the promotion hence Frank threatening to get his lawyers involved.

I don’t think I’ve heard of any contracts which have a ‘attend all press’ clause.

Maybe they do, but we just don’t hear about them.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 08:56 Bellew has said he won't be surprised if Whyte KO's FURY.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 09:06

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 08:56 Bellew has said he won't be surprised if Whyte KO's FURY.

No offense to Tony but he has always been a very harsh critic of Tyson Fury. And what is he going to say anyways, "Fury is going to win the fight easily?," no because that isn't going to sell the fight at all. They have to try to make an all British showdown sound far more competitive than it most likely will be.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 08:56 Bellew has said he won't be surprised if Whyte KO's FURY.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 09:06

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 08:56 Bellew has said he won't be surprised if Whyte KO's FURY.

No offense to Tony but he has always been a very harsh critic of Tyson Fury. And what is he going to say anyways, "Fury is going to win the fight easily?," no because that isn't going to sell the fight at all. They have to try to make an all British showdown sound far more competitive than it most likely will be.