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Expug wrote:Guys, there was a ligtheavy that was from Chicago originaly but moved out to California to start his pro career back in the Seventies.
His name was Greg Mcpherson.
He was a pretty decent banger and started out pretty good but lost a few.
Anyone remember him?

kikibalt wrote:

Expug wrote:Guys, there was a ligtheavy that was from Chicago originaly but moved out to California to start his pro career back in the Seventies.
His name was Greg Mcpherson.
He was a pretty decent banger and started out pretty good but lost a few.
Anyone remember him?

puggsy,

Looking at his record, all his fights here in Calif. were in NoCal., I'm sure I didn't see him fight

kikibalt wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Salvador Sanchez vs Nicky Perez

I had a fighter fighting in Tucson Az. one time, Nicky Perez was fighting the main, his opponent didn't show up for the weigh-in, now this is in the days of same day weigh-in's, an unless an opponent could be found for Perez, there was going to be no fights that nite, Jimmy Montoya tells the promoter "don't worry I'll fine somebody for Perez" Jimmy goes outside the hotel and grabs the first guy that he sees that looks close to Perez in weigh, offer him a few bucks to fight, the guy tells Jimmy "I never fought, but I'll do it", I could see Jimmy from my room windrow showing the guy how to jab in the parking lot, LOL!!, well he goes 4 rounds before the fight is stopped, the promoter had a after the fights party and the guy is there and is asking Jimmy "papi, when am I fighting again?'

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Salvador Sanchez vs Nicky Perez

I had a fighter fighting in Tucson Az. one time, Nicky Perez was fighting the main, his opponent didn't show up for the weigh-in, now this is in the days of same day weigh-in's, an unless an opponent could be found for Perez, there was going to be no fights that nite, Jimmy Montoya tells the promoter "don't worry I'll fine somebody for Perez" Jimmy goes outside the hotel and grabs the first guy that he sees that looks close to Perez in weigh, offer him a few bucks to fight, the guy tells Jimmy "I never fought, but I'll do it", I could see Jimmy from my room windrow showing the guy how to jab in the parking lot, LOL!!, well he goes 4 rounds before the fight is stopped, the promoter had a after the fights party and the guy is there and is asking Jimmy "papi, when am I fighting again?'

Oh Frank, GREAT STORY! Classic, although it certainly wasn't the first time. That's boxing, and showmanship, and some tough guys walking down the street.

-Rick

Expug wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: I had a fighter fighting in Tucson Az. one time, Nicky Perez was fighting the main, his opponent didn't show up for the weigh-in, now this is in the days of same day weigh-in's, an unless an opponent could be found for Perez, there was going to be no fights that nite, Jimmy Montoya tells the promoter "don't worry I'll fine somebody for Perez" Jimmy goes outside the hotel and grabs the first guy that he sees that looks close to Perez in weigh, offer him a few bucks to fight, the guy tells Jimmy "I never fought, but I'll do it", I could see Jimmy from my room windrow showing the guy how to jab in the parking lot, LOL!!, well he goes 4 rounds before the fight is stopped, the promoter had a after the fights party and the guy is there and is asking Jimmy "papi, when am I fighting again?'

Oh Frank, GREAT STORY! Classic, although it certainly wasn't the first time. That's boxing, and showmanship, and some tough guys walking down the street.

-Rick

Classic.
Ya never know who your gonna run into on the street.
Some guys just have a little natural ability and can take a shot pretty good.
Hell, once in awhile here in Chicago you may even see a winehead standing in front of a liquor store get into an argument with his buddy and throw a hook off the jab.
Its feakin uncanny.

Expug wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: I had a fighter fighting in Tucson Az. one time, Nicky Perez was fighting the main, his opponent didn't show up for the weigh-in, now this is in the days of same day weigh-in's, an unless an opponent could be found for Perez, there was going to be no fights that nite, Jimmy Montoya tells the promoter "don't worry I'll fine somebody for Perez" Jimmy goes outside the hotel and grabs the first guy that he sees that looks close to Perez in weigh, offer him a few bucks to fight, the guy tells Jimmy "I never fought, but I'll do it", I could see Jimmy from my room windrow showing the guy how to jab in the parking lot, LOL!!, well he goes 4 rounds before the fight is stopped, the promoter had a after the fights party and the guy is there and is asking Jimmy "papi, when am I fighting again?'

Oh Frank, GREAT STORY! Classic, although it certainly wasn't the first time. That's boxing, and showmanship, and some tough guys walking down the street.

-Rick

Classic.
Ya never know who your gonna run into on the street.
Some guys just have a little natural ability and can take a shot pretty good.
Hell, once in awhile here in Chicago you may even see a winehead standing in front of a liquor store get into an argument with his buddy and throw a hook off the jab.
Its feakin uncanny.

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Rick,Frank,calling all ships

There used to be a Mexican lightweight named "Lobito" Montoya. He fought some of the last main events at the Coliseum. Saw him lose to Jimmy Heair and Randy Shields just before the Coliseum turned into a furniture store. He was a tough kid from what I remember. Know about him?

Wow! You really set me up with this one, DAGOS. I remember that Lobito Montoya was just hitting the top ten ratings as a featherweight, in the late 60's, after upsetting Frankie Crawford, and easily defeating future featherweight champ, Clemente Sanchez. Montoya was unbeaten, and came to L.A. to claim his fame. Now, here is where the sweetness of boxing turned sour for Raul "Lobito" Montoya. The brave management of Mexico'c "Little Wolf", made the mistake of matching him with a "Hawk" from L.A., named Dwight Hawkins.

Hawkins, Johnny Flores under-rated Featherweight, who at age 17, had KOed bantam champ Jose Beccera, would be Lobito Montoya's showcase L.A. fight. Lobito would not only lose to Dwight Hawkins, but suffer his only KO loss. I can't remember anybody knocking down Lobito Montoya, exceot for Dwight Hawkins.

I would later spar with Montoya, in 1970 & '71, at the Main St. Gym. Montoya was slick, he knew how to move his head, bob & weave, use his shoulders, hands, arms, slip and slide, roll, etc. All these things today;s fans believe were invented by Floyd Mayweather Jr. THis guy was exceptional, and came in as a Featherweight, who should have fought now heavier than lightweight. but he fought the bigger Randy Shields, and Monroe Brooks was a big bite to chew on. However, none of these guys could convince him to leave before the final bell. Except, of course, for Dwight Hawkins.

Lots of up & coming future champs were schooled by Hawkins, such as Beccera and Kuiniaki Shibata. Beccera got even with Hawkins, months later in his hometown of Guadalaara. When they arrived from L.A., Johnny Flores & Hal Benson, Hawkin's managers, were provided a "local" representative, to help the fighters camp with any assitance they might need, such as securing "fresh" bottled water for "The Hawk". The day before the fight, Hawkins becomes violently ill, and of course, the symptoms were clearly that of "Montezuma's Revenge". Somehow, Flores knew that Dwight had been given tap water. Before informing anybody of the fighters illness, Hawkins calls for the "rep" to go retrieve more "bottled" water. When the rep leaves, Flores follows him down the street to an alley, where he refills the five gallon glass bottle from a spicket. Replaces the srew-on metal lid, and heads back to the hotel.

The next evening, a drained Hawkins faced a future all-time bantam great, a violent crowd, Montezuma's revenge and ended up losing.

Damn, sorry Dagos, all you asked about was Lobito Montoya, not the "Dwight Hawkins Story". It's just the name Lobito Montoya, brings back memories of his fight with Hawkins. It was a fight both Flores And Hawkins were concerned about. His recent wins labeled Montoya as a fighter to be respected and reckoned with.


-Rick

Expug wrote:The story also reminds me of Charlie "Devil" Green gettin pulled out of the audience at the Garden while in the middle of eating a hotdog by Teddy Brenner to fight Jose Torres.
Torres opponnent didnt show up.
Devil already had some fights though.
Charlie had Torres down or hurt I think before gettin stopped.
The funny part is when he got paid , he demanded an extra buck fifty for the hot dog he had to shit can before gettin his gear on.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Rick,Frank,calling all ships

There used to be a Mexican lightweight named "Lobito" Montoya. He fought some of the last main events at the Coliseum. Saw him lose to Jimmy Heair and Randy Shields just before the Coliseum turned into a furniture store. He was a tough kid from what I remember. Know about him?

Wow! You really set me up with this one, DAGOS. I remember that Lobito Montoya was just hitting the top ten ratings as a featherweight, in the late 60's, after upsetting Frankie Crawford, and easily defeating future featherweight champ, Clemente Sanchez. Montoya was unbeaten, and came to L.A. to claim his fame. Now, here is where the sweetness of boxing turned sour for Raul "Lobito" Montoya. The brave management of Mexico'c "Little Wolf", made the mistake of matching him with a "Hawk" from L.A., named Dwight Hawkins.

Hawkins, Johnny Flores under-rated Featherweight, who at age 17, had KOed bantam champ Jose Beccera, would be Lobito Montoya's showcase L.A. fight. Lobito would not only lose to Dwight Hawkins, but suffer his only KO loss. I can't remember anybody knocking down Lobito Montoya, exceot for Dwight Hawkins.

I would later spar with Montoya, in 1970 & '71, at the Main St. Gym. Montoya was slick, he knew how to move his head, bob & weave, use his shoulders, hands, arms, slip and slide, roll, etc. All these things today;s fans believe were invented by Floyd Mayweather Jr. THis guy was exceptional, and came in as a Featherweight, who should have fought now heavier than lightweight. but he fought the bigger Randy Shields, and Monroe Brooks was a big bite to chew on. However, none of these guys could convince him to leave before the final bell. Except, of course, for Dwight Hawkins.

Lots of up & coming future champs were schooled by Hawkins, such as Beccera and Kuiniaki Shibata. Beccera got even with Hawkins, months later in his hometown of Guadalaara. When they arrived from L.A., Johnny Flores & Hal Benson, Hawkin's managers, were provided a "local" representative, to help the fighters camp with any assitance they might need, such as securing "fresh" bottled water for "The Hawk". The day before the fight, Hawkins becomes violently ill, and of course, the symptoms were clearly that of "Montezuma's Revenge". Somehow, Flores knew that Dwight had been given tap water. Before informing anybody of the fighters illness, Hawkins calls for the "rep" to go retrieve more "bottled" water. When the rep leaves, Flores follows him down the street to an alley, where he refills the five gallon glass bottle from a spicket. Replaces the srew-on metal lid, and heads back to the hotel.

The next evening, a drained Hawkins faced a future all-time bantam great, a violent crowd, Montezuma's revenge and ended up losing.

Damn, sorry Dagos, all you asked about was Lobito Montoya, not the "Dwight Hawkins Story". It's just the name Lobito Montoya, brings back memories of his fight with Hawkins. It was a fight both Flores And Hawkins were concerned about. His recent wins labeled Montoya as a fighter to be respected and reckoned with.


-Rick

Great story and you got my interest. I was talking to a fighter in San Diego named Jimmy Fields. Said he went way south in Mexico to fight a local kid that had only a couple of fights. Fields told me the night before the fight Montezuma's revenge hit him so bad he could hardly get into the ring. After that he said he drank only bottled water and cokes.

Rick Farris wrote:

Expug wrote:The story also reminds me of Charlie "Devil" Green gettin pulled out of the audience at the Garden while in the middle of eating a hotdog by Teddy Brenner to fight Jose Torres.
Torres opponnent didnt show up.
Devil already had some fights though.
Charlie had Torres down or hurt I think before gettin stopped.
The funny part is when he got paid , he demanded an extra buck fifty for the hot dog he had to shit can before gettin his gear on.

PUG, as you know, that's what boxing is. I remember as an amateur, I was 17, and came to the Olympic one Thursday night to watch a friend fight in a prelim. As it turns out, one of the two amateur bouts, that proceeded the pro card, had fallen out when one of the boxers didn't show. I was the perfect match for the guy who did show up, and Johnny Flores pulled me in before I could find my seat. I fought on about 30 minutes notice, and collected an unexpected win. Hell, I was in shape, didn't have time to give the matter much thought, and had a great night. A real fighter is almost always ready to fight, unless they must take time to recover from a physical injury. I clarify "physical" injury for a reason. If the fighter loses his heart after an ass-whipping, then he is DONE!

-Ricardo

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