Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

See, more proof that people were smarter back in the day.
The Jack in the Box is high up on the roof so it would be harder to torch.
It must have been in the seventies that the corporate suits at Jack in the box let down their guards and put the big plastic cranium in danger by lowering him in to shooting and torching range.


Pug . . . We had a clown on a tower in front, and a smaller one atop the speaker. The speaker Jack took the hit. However, Al had this cross bow, and we took a few shots, literally three arrows were a part of that head for months and nobody said a word. One of the arrows had taken out a piece out of the back of the head.

-Rick
beautiful.The clown deserved the arrows.For the taste of them tacos alone!

They sold tacos at J-I-T-B?

You haven't lived until you've had Jack's tacos. Ground up fatty meat soaked in grease inside a stale taco shell. Ask for hot sauce and they give you watered down ketchup. :(

No Thanks!!....

[Rick Farris]

See, more proof that people were smarter back in the day.
The Jack in the Box is high up on the roof so it would be harder to torch.
It must have been in the seventies that the corporate suits at Jack in the box let down their guards and put the big plastic cranium in danger by lowering him in to shooting and torching range.


Pug . . . We had a clown on a tower in front, and a smaller one atop the speaker. The speaker Jack took the hit. However, Al had this cross bow, and we took a few shots, literally three arrows were a part of that head for months and nobody said a word. One of the arrows had taken out a piece out of the back of the head.

-Rick
beautiful.The clown deserved the arrows.For the taste of them tacos alone!

They sold tacos at J-I-T-B?

You bet, Frank. They were frozen, small tortillas with a little meat-like substance inside the folded tortilla. We'd drop them in hot grease for a couple of minutes, sprinkle on some lettuce, grated cheese, a squirt of taco sauce, wrap it up . . . that was your taco. Pug's right about the grease, after eating one taco, you'd have enough grease on your hands to lube a car. There was usually a special price if you bought two, and no charge for the heart burn.

The manager told us that cops eat for free (and when he wasn't around, so did our boxer buddies). You know Frank, more than once, Johnny Flores boxers stepped into amateur bouts fueled by Jack-In-The-Box. I know that for a fact.

Rick-In-The-Box

[Rick Farris]

Early 1960's Jack-In-The-Box

The first Jack In The Box opened in San Diego.Its corporate offices are here. The first Jack In The Box is now a taco stand by the trolley that passes by Pet Co Park.It seems every KFC,Jack In The BOx,or McDonalds that goes belly up winds up being a taco stand. I used to work at Jack In The Box as a kid. Everyone who came up to the drive thru at night was drunk. Sometimes they'd ask,"Where's Jack?"
My reply.
"Jack's off !!"

Then you know the deal, Roger. Foodmaker Corp. Remember that there was an upstairs office area, and from there you could climb a ladder and sit on the roof. On Sunday's, sometimes it would just be two of us, and the cars would be backed up during a rush. Al took the orders and worked the register, I was the cook . When it got too crazy, he and I would just take off our aprons, grab a soft drink, and go up to the roof and look down at the cars lined up. People honking, wondering why nobody was inside. After a few minutes, when some of the cars had left, we'd go down and start again. Needless to say, we weren't in the manager's program.

-Rick

[kikibalt]

Twin pipes with a split manfold, lower 3 inchs, new,paint job,
black, whitewalls, beauty rims, rims were painted red, yes that
was my 1938 Chevy, how I wish I had that car today

[dagosd2000]

CHINALAND

After a night of hittin' all the bars and blowin' all your dough on fast women,we always made sure we had enough left to eat at Chinaland. It was across near the Sports Arena and you could be sure that after midnight it was practically impossible to find a booth. But they had a little counter in the front with 5 or 6 chairs and it would always be my luck to find a stool unoccupied. Inside it was hot and steamy with Cinese waiters yappin' in Chinese and the swingin' doors from the kitchen swingin' back and forth with waiters goin' in and out.

Them waiters must have had memories like trap doors bacause they never wrote your order down. I never heard one of them speak English,but they always got your order straight. They piled high the food on your plate. The menu was a million miles long and everything that came out of the kitchen looked and tasted the same. i liked the flavor though,but thatwas probably 'cause I was drunk all the time. I'd wolf that stuff down on top of all the booze,go home to bed,and snore all night long.

One visit to Chinaland was a little different though. Me and the wife were just married and I wanted to take her out. She liked Chinese food. There's a lot of Chinese eats in Tijuana and Mexicali. The Southern Pacific ,when they made the railroads, hired the Chinese like we did. Well a lot of them Chinese stayed around here,and across the border. The Chinese men made up their own concoctions and they called it Chinese food as we know it.

Anyway I bring the wife to Chinaland before all the drunks showed up.I'm braggin' real strong about the place hoping my wife gets impressed. We're at a table right next to them swingin' doors by the kitchen. My wife orders chop suey and I'm goin' for the pork chow mein. While we're waitin' the doors to the kitchen are flappin' like butterfly wings.

All of a sudden I hear I loud crash. Seems two of the waiters were acting like Kamikazee pilots and crashed into each other.I could see the disaster inside the kitchen. One of the pilots had our order and it was on the floor. Then to my shock I see the little bastard scoop it back onto our plates and then strut out to our table like he's Genghis Khan.
"Enjoy",he says with a big toothy smile and sets the plates in front of us.
"Hey look Mack,"I says. "I saw you drop our food and now you want us to eat it?"
Arthur Treacher quit smilin'
"I know you understand me. Now take this back and we're leavin".

My wife was a little upset that I didn't reorder.
"Look,"I says,"I ain't taking no second chances. These guys don't throw anything away. I ain't interested in eatin' somebody elses leftovers."

[dagosd2000]

Clark Gable



Marilyn Monroe

[Bobbin & Weavin]

Early 1960's Jack-In-The-Box

The first Jack In The Box opened in San Diego.Its corporate offices are here. The first Jack In The Box is now a taco stand by the trolley that passes by Pet Co Park.It seems every KFC,Jack In The BOx,or McDonalds that goes belly up winds up being a taco stand. I used to work at Jack In The Box as a kid. Everyone who came up to the drive thru at night was drunk. Sometimes they'd ask,"Where's Jack?"
My reply.
"Jack's off !!"

All of these Jack-in-the-Box stories reminds me of one of my father's favorite stories; he and a buddy had been at a union meeting and after the meeting they spent the rest of the evening solving the worlds problems at a bar across from the union hall. After leaving the bar my father went his way and his friend decided to stop at Jack-in-the-Box to get some food and coffee to help him sober up for the ride home, in his inebriated condition he failed to notice that not only was Jack-in-the-Box closed but there was a squad car hiding on the other side of the clown while the officer watched the intersection, he pulled up, rolled down his window to order at which time the cop who thought he had pulled up to talk to him yelled, What do ya want!" He ordered a burger, fries and a coffee! ...You know the rest!
Bruce

[Rick Farris]

No Holiday Season for Boxing in '53 . . .

It must have been great for boxing fans in L.A. during 1953. Today, there isn't much boxing action around the Holidays, however, in 1953, The Hollywood Legion doors were open for a fight the day after Xmas. On Dec. 26, Hap Navarro promoted a match featuring Charley Sawyer.

Those were the good 'ol days.

-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Willie Vaughn . . .

Does anybody know if he's still alive? I believe he is. I know that he fought for Hap Navarro at the Hollywood Legion Stadium quite a few times.

-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Early 1960's Jack-In-The-Box

When you're tired, and your hungry, and your dead on your feet . . .
you don't want to cook, but you just gotta eat-
Just go to JACK-IN-THE-BOX
(Circa 1969 radio ad)

[Dongee]

Willie Vaughn . . .

Does anybody know if he's still alive? I believe he is. I know that he fought for Hap Navarro at the Hollywood Legion Stadium quite a few times.

-Rick Farris

Willie Vaughn, I'm lucky to say, was one of the better youngsters I developed at Hollywood. His manager was Charlie Gregoli, who also had Sonny Andrews at one time. The story on Willie was that he appeared to be a sorta in-and-outer, winning and losing almost with equal frequency. Until one day when Gregoli took him up to Soper's Ranch to train for a serious test against the California 160 lb. champion, Charlie Green. That's the time on that photo you mentioned, Rick, when I hosted the press one Sunday to watch Willie train and Don Fraser did a series of interviews.
I had gone there a week earlier to watch the kid prepare for his most serious test, Green's heavy punching power. What I saw not only surprised me, but it convinced me that I had made the right match for him, even though the press frowned at the thought of someone like Willie facing hard hitting Charlie Green. The upshot was that on fight night, with a great house watching, Willie arose from two serious knockdowns to beat Green and take his title, moving some of the press to vote the match as "Fight of the Year". Willie later said that he was really inspired upon seeing all of the great fighters' pictures on the walls at Soper's, such as Dempsey, Walker, Hudkins, etc.

true story

hap navarro

[bennie]

Early 1960's Jack-In-The-Box

When you're tired, and your hungry, and your dead on your feet . . .
you don't want to cook, but you just gotta eat-
Just go to JACK-IN-THE-BOX
(Circa 1969 radio ad)

We just have 'chippies'.

[bennie]

Twin pipes with a split manfold, lower 3 inchs, new,paint job,
black, whitewalls, beauty rims, rims were painted red, yes that
was my 1938 Chevy, how I wish I had that car today

Why am I reminded of the St Valentine's Day Massacre.

[kikibalt]

Early 1960's Jack-In-The-Box

When you're tired, and your hungry, and your dead on your feet . . .
you don't want to cook, but you just gotta eat-
Just go to JACK-IN-THE-BOX
(Circa 1969 radio ad)

We just have 'chippies'.

Who or what is 'Chippies', please elaborate.....

[bennie]

Fish an' chips, Frankie, usually done badly.

[kikibalt]

Fish an' chips, Frankie, usually done badly.

[kikibalt]

Defamation suit against Shane Mosley is thrown out

Judge grants boxer's motion to dismiss the suit filed by Derryl Hudson, his former conditioning coach.

By Lance Pugmire
January 27, 2009

Shane Mosley's big victory in the ring Saturday night to regain the welterweight title came on the heels of a legal triumph over his former conditioning coach.

The defamation lawsuit filed last year against Mosley by Derryl Hudson was dismissed Thursday by a Los Angeles County Superior Court judge.

"Hudson . . . has not demonstrated a probability of succeeding on the merits of his claim," Judge Alan S. Rosenfield said in his six-page order and granted Mosley's motion to dismiss the suit.

Hudson filed his lawsuit early last year after Mosley told some reporters in 2007 that he was told by Hudson that the performance-enhancing drugs he took from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (BALCO) were vitamins that would help his training before his 2003 rematch with Oscar De La Hoya.

Hudson alleged Mosley told reporters that he was "pressured" by Hudson to take the products, which were actually the designer steroids "the cream" and "the clear," and the energy-boosting drug EPO favored by cyclists.

Mosley has also sued BALCO founder Victor Conte. In a deposition connected to that case, Hudson said that Mosley knew precisely what he was taking during his training.

Rosenfield said in his order that "Hudson does not dispute that he was fully aware that Mosley was prescribed illegal performance-enhancing drugs by Victor Conte," noting Hudson's deposition acknowledged "that he was present in the BALCO office with Mosley and Conte when Conte explained to Mosley the benefits and risks of using banned performance-enhancing substances . . . [and] . . . that Mosley injected himself with his first dose of EPO while at the BALCO office, in full view of Hudson."

Rosenfield said that "Hudson . . . cannot argue that he was defamed . . . as Hudson fully admits that he was present at Conte's office when Conte prescribed Mosley the illegal substances and discussed with Mosley that they were banned drugs."

Hudson, thus, is "libel-proof," the judge wrote.

Hudson could not be reached for comment. Mosley declined to comment.

Mosley's attorney, Judd Burstein, said, "Derryl can't be libeled, he had no reputation left. He did this to himself."

On Saturday, Mosley won the World Boxing Assn. welterweight title by knocking out Antonio Margarito.

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[kikibalt]

* Item: Boxer Shane Mosley's trainer, Nazim Richardson, finds a substance the Mosley camp identifies as plaster of Paris under the wraps on the taped hands of opponent Antonio Margarito before the WBA welterweight title fight at Staples Center.

("We saw something on one hand and we asked to have that cleaned off," Richardson said. "The other hand was already taped. We asked to see that one. They resisted. The commissioner stepped in, made them take the tape off. The same stuff was under that tape.")

[bennie]

Londoner David Haye is all set to challenge Wladimir Klitschko for IBF & WBO heavyweight titles at Chelsea's Stamford Bridge on June 20 in the latest 'big' fight announced for these shores. A few details are still to be finalised but the big-hitting, charismatic Haye, who moved up from cruiserweight last year, has pulled off a major coup to secure such a fight for this country and for himself so early into his heavyweight tenure. Haye, 28, promotes himself.
Haye was originally (tentatively) lined up to challenge Vitali Klitschko on the same date but the older (and better) of the two Ukrainian giants has been forced into a mandatory defence of his WBC title against Cuban pudding Juan Carlos Gomez, set for March 21 in Germany, and will need time afterwards to rest his famously delicate hands. He will almost certainly pound on the chubby Gomez. Meanwhile, Wladimir hinted of a defence against blubbery Los Angeles biker Chris Arreola in May in Los Angeles but Arreola is a joke and the boxing paymasters know it. He would last about five minutes with Klitschko and about 50 seconds with the muscled, dangerous, energetic, lightning-quick Haye, who brings a real sense of freshness (and fitness) to the horrendous heavyweight division and its ghastly collection of dinosaurs, which explains his early shot.
Haye did have to lower himself against one of those 'contenders' late last year when he dismantled 37-year-old Monte Barrett in five riproaring rounds at London's O2 Arena in his official heavyweight debut. Haye put the New Yorker down five times before it was waved off, Barrett still on the floor. Haye had previously dabbled at the weight with a three-knockdown, first-round destruction of big Pole Tomasz Bonin at Wembley in April 2007.
He stands a real puncher's chance against the solid but occasionally fragile Wladimir, who has been stopped three times in his career to date but done a lot of stopping himself at an imposing 52-3 (46). "Wlad", who belted old man Hasim Rahman in seven rounds in his last fight, always whips himself into great shape and knows to use his sheer size, strength and fitness, and will bark his "too soon, too small" mantra repeatedly over the ensuing months, relating to Haye.
Haye will enter the ring as the outsider and might be a bit fragile himself, you know. One also knows Haye will be in there to fight, in there to win, and stands a much better chance with Wladimir than he does with Vitali.
That can only be a good thing.

[kikibalt]

Willie Vaughn . . .

Does anybody know if he's still alive? I believe he is. I know that he fought for Hap Navarro at the Hollywood Legion Stadium quite a few times.

-Rick Farris

Willie Vaughn, I'm lucky to say, was one of the better youngsters I developed at Hollywood. His manager was Charlie Gregoli, who also had Sonny Andrews at one time. The story on Willie was that he appeared to be a sorta in-and-outer, winning and losing almost with equal frequency. Until one day when Gregoli took him up to Soper's Ranch to train for a serious test against the California 160 lb. champion, Charlie Green. That's the time on that photo you mentioned, Rick, when I hosted the press one Sunday to watch Willie train and Don Fraser did a series of interviews.
I had gone there a week earlier to watch the kid prepare for his most serious test, Green's heavy punching power. What I saw not only surprised me, but it convinced me that I had made the right match for him, even though the press frowned at the thought of someone like Willie facing hard hitting Charlie Green. The upshot was that on fight night, with a great house watching, Willie arose from two serious knockdowns to beat Green and take his title, moving some of the press to vote the match as "Fight of the Year". Willie later said that he was really inspired upon seeing all of the great fighters' pictures on the walls at Soper's, such as Dempsey, Walker, Hudkins, etc.

true story

hap navarro

Willie Vaughn & Hap Navarro

[bennie]

* Item: Boxer Shane Mosley's trainer, Nazim Richardson, finds a substance the Mosley camp identifies as plaster of Paris under the wraps on the taped hands of opponent Antonio Margarito before the WBA welterweight title fight at Staples Center.

("We saw something on one hand and we asked to have that cleaned off," Richardson said. "The other hand was already taped. We asked to see that one. They resisted. The commissioner stepped in, made them take the tape off. The same stuff was under that tape.")

Bad boys, if it's true. In fact, it will be sick if it's true.

[kikibalt]

Willie Vaughn . . .

Does anybody know if he's still alive? I believe he is. I know that he fought for Hap Navarro at the Hollywood Legion Stadium quite a few times.

-Rick Farris

Vaughn worked at the Forum for a number of years, he was the tunnel
gatekeeper, you know, where all the freebies come in.....

[bennie]

Frankie, as a trainer, what do you make of this Plaster of Paris allegation? Marg was the big favourite and surely didn't need such an edge. Then again, Mosley had the allegations relating to steroids hanging over his own head...

[kikibalt]

I'm going let the cat out of the bag here, our own Rick Farris is going to be guest
speaker at the "Golden State Boxer's Association" luncheon today at the Dumes Motel
in Hollywood, starting time 11:00 AM. see you there, Rick,..it better be good....

[kikibalt]

Frankie, as a trainer, what do you make of this Plaster of Paris allegation? Marg was the big favourite and surely didn't need such an edge. Then again, Mosley had the allegations relating to steroids hanging over his own head...

I don't know what to make of it, Bennie, its possible they tried using something like Plaster of Paris, but the question is, why?, why take a risk of ruining Marg's career if they got caught pulling something like that, he can get ban for life, but if Marg. is allowed to keep fighting, he need to get rid of the guys around him NOW, no ifs or buts, kick'em in the ass and throw'em out the door....