The whole scenario just stinks ,its simple too me ,boxer gfets tested and found to have illigal shite in his bodybnot once but twice ,, Ukad pass on relevent info to bbbc ,boxer gets banned its all so simple, BUT we get all this crap, so unless Ukad come out and say , sorry we made a mistake ,the tea lady got shagged and jilted by nigel ,years ago so she doctored the results, and the bbbc say we lift any bans we acted on false info , well unless that happens the pricks guilty and should still be banned.
But then we have the other mess, Fury and his lack of defending no fighting a novice , what a joke ,forget the fury Usyk debacle , with the blame and she said he said crap, facts are he,s not defending his belt he,s fighting a novice after fighting an old past it Chisora , another debacle.
Go over seas you have Charlo not defended in 2 years but allowed to go up and fight Canelo and still retain his title , Its a joke all round . Then look at all the woke womens fights on ppv girls with less skill than novice men getting on ppv because they wear skimpy knickers at a weigh in , just keeps piling on and on does,nt it.
END RESULT its simple last weekend the one fight i wanted to watch biggest fight for a long time i went to my sons he bought it so it was bbq and beers time with my lads and some mates, so what you say ,but i ssay this because we did,nt want to miss it and risk a stream going down , so one of us was always gonna put it on , and the reason for that is simple , normaly on the big fights we go to the pub , over the years the pubs are usually packed , great atmosphere and , good fun , beer , big screens , chicken schnitzels and salad , traditional and a good day out with freinds , BUT Could,nt do it for this fight , Why you may ask , simple NO ONE PUT IT ON yep closest pub to me that had it on was 25 klm away then anothe 30 plus klm further , BUT just about every pub had Ufc Mma whatever it was on there screens , it really brought it home to me boxing is killing itself , the rot from within is taking hold , Occasionaly you get the great fights like the 2 we witnessed last week but overall
Its commiting suicide , and its thre likes of Fury ,Benn , Charlo , and corrupt officials that are causing it
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 31 Jul 2023, 19:27
by CaptainSpacerod
coneye wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 18:47
Go over seas you have Charlo not defended in 2 years but allowed to go up and fight Canelo and still retain his title , Its a joke all round . Then look at all the woke womens fights on ppv girls with less skill than novice men getting on ppv because they wear skimpy knickers at a weigh in , just keeps piling on and on does,nt it.
One of the "experts" interviewed at ringside on Saturday was none other than the respected boxing analyst Ebanie Bridges.
coneye wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 18:47
Go over seas you have Charlo not defended in 2 years but allowed to go up and fight Canelo and still retain his title , Its a joke all round . Then look at all the woke womens fights on ppv girls with less skill than novice men getting on ppv because they wear skimpy knickers at a weigh in , just keeps piling on and on does,nt it.
One of the "experts" interviewed at ringside on Saturday was none other than the respected boxing analyst Ebanie Bridges.
Rest my case
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 03:26
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 05:37
by Ruthless-RKO
I guess it’s a good thing because now the fight can be made at some point, which it will. I don’t know when, but it will happen at some point in the UK, which is important. There was a lot of talks of it happening in the Middle East and that was something I didn’t really want to do because it’s such a huge fight out here.”
However, the 33-year-old isn’t allowing any statement change his opinion on the situation. He believes, verdict or otherwise, that any claim Benn is ‘absolved’ is ‘bulls**t.’
“Lawyers and court hearings and essays and Eddie Hearn saying all the things he’s saying – it doesn’t mean anything. The fact is you got caught twice and no-one’s ever gonna forget it. It doesn’t mean that you didn’t do what you did, cause you did do it.”
You want to say ‘I’m absolved and it was all a big misunderstanding’, nah that’s bulls**t. Boxing’s a business and I still wanna fight him, so the fight will be made at some point.”
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 13:23
by martinmrts
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 14:48
by si7dog7
Its all a misunderstanding
The truth will out.
Obvs not then
Still no answers. Allegedly a few “envelopes” have been passed. By who and to whom is anyone’s guess
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 16:24
by garethhop
martinmrts wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 13:23
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
Lets see Eddie Hearn call Matt Christie a berk.
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 03 Aug 2023, 18:47
by polecateddy
martinmrts wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 13:23
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
It was a good read. I kind of get the impression that Benn’s legal team has kind of put the UKAD system to the test a bit and found some holes in jurisdiction and penalties, etc. It’s really crazy that they might have done such a good job that the actual performance enhancing drug test fails might actually never be ruled upon by anyone! I guess Benn aside the whole general framework of testing might need on overhaul.
martinmrts wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 13:23
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
It was a good read. I kind of get the impression that Benn’s legal team has kind of put the UKAD system to the test a bit and found some holes in jurisdiction and penalties, etc. It’s really crazy that they might have done such a good job that the actual performance enhancing drug test fails might actually never be ruled upon by anyone! I guess Benn aside the whole general framework of testing might need on overhaul.
Prick will always be a cheat , and whats more no shame about it whats so ever ,, Only thing we can hope for is people refuse to buy or watch any thing he's in UNLESS its a 50-50 fight , suppose what really irks me about this guy for some reason his the refusal to fight a 50-50 fight , even though he's cheating yet still has tha audacity to really believe he' deserves what he's got because he's good has opposed to Nigels son and Eddies pet ,
For what its worth did'nt think much of his father either , he ducked the best has well ,
martinmrts wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 13:23
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
It was a good read. I kind of get the impression that Benn’s legal team has kind of put the UKAD system to the test a bit and found some holes in jurisdiction and penalties, etc. It’s really crazy that they might have done such a good job that the actual performance enhancing drug test fails might actually never be ruled upon by anyone! I guess Benn aside the whole general framework of testing might need on overhaul.
You may well be right.
Benn and Hearn seem to be using the word 'exonerated' and the dictionary meaning of the word is 'to release someone from a duty or obligation.'
I also suspect Benn may have got off due to some kind of jurisdictional loophole and the fact he tested positive may have become irrelevant because nobody has the legal jurisdiction to punish him.
martinmrts wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 13:23
Interesting editorial in this week's BN. Alleges that NADP has cleared Benn to box because UKAD can't enforce a suspension based on another agency's test, and that the clomifene issue hasn't been addressed
It was a good read. I kind of get the impression that Benn’s legal team has kind of put the UKAD system to the test a bit and found some holes in jurisdiction and penalties, etc. It’s really crazy that they might have done such a good job that the actual performance enhancing drug test fails might actually never be ruled upon by anyone! I guess Benn aside the whole general framework of testing might need on overhaul.
You may well be right.
Benn and Hearn seem to be using the word 'exonerated' and the dictionary meaning of the word is 'to release someone from a duty or obligation.'
I also suspect Benn may have got off due to some kind of jurisdictional loophole and the fact he tested positive may have become irrelevant because nobody has the legal jurisdiction to punish him.
You seem to be applying a primarily American English definition to a British English speaker there.
I know one person who would be very pleased Dillian Whyte tested positive.....Conor Benn.
There's nothing quite like someone directing the heat off you by doing something equally stupid.
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 07 Aug 2023, 07:41
by polecateddy
Literally every boxer who tests positive now - ‘Okay, what did Conor do? Can I have the contact details of those dodgy European doctors who wrote your reports?’ It will be a little cottage industry of trying to wriggle out of a ban!
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 14 Aug 2023, 23:03
by Redback Rasta
I wonder if Conor Benn and Robert Smith are on speaking terms yet?
If Benn had his BBBofC licence back he would be posting selfies with it.
Benn is "disappointed" that another legal fight is coming.
"I'm disappointed at the news of an appeal being made, having already been cleared by both the WBC and National Anti-Doping Panel to continue my career without restriction. I am innocent. Nothing has changed and I remain confident in my position," Benn said.
UKAD issued a statement to confirm the appeal process.
"UK Anti-Doping can today confirm that it has filed an appeal in respect of a decision handed down by the independent National Anti-Doping Panel regarding anti-doping proceedings brought by UKAD against Mr Conor Benn. As confirmed previously in UKAD's statement on 28 July 2023, Mr Benn is no longer subject to a provisional suspension."
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 12:25
by polecateddy
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Aug 2023, 12:18
Haha! UKAD appealing it.
Benn is "disappointed" that another legal fight is coming.
"I'm disappointed at the news of an appeal being made, having already been cleared by both the WBC and National Anti-Doping Panel to continue my career without restriction. I am innocent. Nothing has changed and I remain confident in my position," Benn said.
UKAD issued a statement to confirm the appeal process.
"UK Anti-Doping can today confirm that it has filed an appeal in respect of a decision handed down by the independent National Anti-Doping Panel regarding anti-doping proceedings brought by UKAD against Mr Conor Benn. As confirmed previously in UKAD's statement on 28 July 2023, Mr Benn is no longer subject to a provisional suspension."
I reckon we won’t see Benn in a ring this year or the next.
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 16:14
by dookus
Presumably this appeal from what appears to be, legally speaking, an arbitration award by the NADP, will be subject to public High Court proceedings. if so, then good; we can finally have it confirmed whether or not this "exoneration" dealt with the issue of omelettes / faulty genetics / alleged problems with VADA's handling of the samples / whatever other story we've heard over the past year.
If it turns out he actually was acquitted on jurisdictional grounds and the appeal fails, then the government potentially have an almighty legislative headache to deal with, because this will have an effect on all UK sports that rely on drug results from external bodies, not only boxing.
Hearn caught telling lies again by the look of things.
He's a right cheeky chappy ain't he :lol:
Cheeky isn't the right word. Hearn intentionally mislead the public from the outset regarding Benn's positive tests, even to the extent of claiming it was not a jurisdictional technicality that 'cleared' him. He took a gamble the real reason would never be made public and saw it as an opportunity to 'create' a reason for 'exoneration' favourable to Benn.
But as we have now seen, the reason has been made public and Hearn's lie is now public as well.
Re: Conor Benn - What Next?
Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 02:29
by Redback Rasta
Hearn playing down the appeal and continuing to posture about Benn having a fight regardless :
"He can fight, now. He has an international license. He can ask for permission to box in the UK. He's not suspended by UKAD. I don't think they can stop him. It would be a strange move to not allow him to fight in the UK, but he can also fight in America, now. He's not suspended by UKAD, he's not suspended by the British Boxing Board of Control. But I don't think this process is one of huge length. We'll get with the team tomorrow, we've got a meeting, and then we'll look at the process. It's just another small fight to win in the Conor Benn journey."
Comment : It would be a strange move - using Hearn's own terminology - if he were to push ahead and have Benn fight before this was resolved. It might make him some money but the reputation damage probably would not be worth it.
