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Tony DeMarco vs Kid Gavilan


DeMarco outpoints Gavilan over 10 rounds in a non title fight, must be one of the worst quality film ive watched, nigh on impossible to see what punches landed and what ones were blocked, it looked a close fight, DeMarco the rugged come forward aggressor looked better early on, walking Gavilan down , getting up close and working both hands to head and body, Gavilan was better in the second half, he too had his best success when up close and whipping in those fast combinations, some good action but pity the picture quality wasn't better

Carmen Basilio vs Johnny Saxton 1+2


Saxton outpoints Basilio over 15 to regain the World Welterweight title, close fight where the action ebbed and flowed but I thought Basilio was unlucky not to retain his title, he started off faster getting home the left hook and right hands up close, he rocked Saxton with some big shots in the 2nd which had Saxton backing up, Saxton came into it soon after though using his longer reach to get home the jab and landed some nice counter hooks, Basilio regained momentum after the middle rounds and started to outbox Saxton who dropped his workrate until closing the gap down the stretch, landing some nice combinations and in the end it was Saxton who got the nod


Basilio KOs Saxton in the 9th of the rematch to regain the title, decent scrap, both men came out firing toe to toe, Basilio wanting to gain revenge for what a lot of people thought was a robbery in the first fight and Saxton keen to show it wasn't a gift last time so it made for a good few opening rounds, both men standing in the pocket and letting their hands go, especially targeting the body and it was pretty even stevens early on, Basilio rocked Saxton with a massive left hook at the end of the 5th but the bell rang as Basilio followed up, Saxton tried to box Basilio after that and try jab him and keep him on the outside but Basilio was walking him down and busting him up

In the 9th Basilio shook Saxton up bad with a right hand and this time there was too much time left in the round for Saxton to survive, Basilio battered him with every shot in the book until the ref stepped in with Saxton left helpless on the ropes

Basilio KO'd Saxton in 2 of a rubber match but cant find it online

Robbery

Alfonso Zamora vs Carlos Zarate

Every once in a while I watch this fight again. A competitive first round where Zamora stunned Zarate with a hook, but that was his best moment as Zarate's measured attack soon had Zamora rocked and finally out in the fourth.

Zamora was a favorite of mine after knocking out Soo Hwan Hong in a tough fight the year before.

Some putz came into the ring in the first round in his underwear and had to be taken out by five cops. That was more competitive than the fight was.

Terry Norris vs Julian Jackson

Norris boxed beautifully for the first 1 and 1/3 round and then BAM! Lights out. Jackson was truly an awesome puncher.

Paul Pender vs Carmen Basilio



Pender outpoints Basilio over 15 to retain his World Middleweight title putting him down twice late along the way, close fight to start with Basilio got right in Pender's face and dipped his legs with a big right hand in the 2nd and Pender done well to stay up especially when Basilio caught him again with a hook, Basilio continued to take the fight to Pender until after the middle rounds Pender decided to use his height and range to outbox Basilio, Pender kept is simple, jab, right hand and some nice lateral movement and he pulled away on the cards with Basilio struggling to land anything meaningful

In the 13th Pender decked Basilio with what the commentator said was a left hook but I thought he caught him with a right then came over with the left, either way Basilio's legs were like jelly and he was lucky the bell ended the round, Basilio was down again in the last round from a leaping left hook from Pender, Basilio bravely made it to the end but Pender was a clear winner

handsofstone wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 09:54 Paul Pender vs Carmen Basilio



Pender outpoints Basilio over 15 to retain his World Middleweight title putting him down twice late along the way, close fight to start with Basilio got right in Pender's face and dipped his legs with a big right hand in the 2nd and Pender done well to stay up especially when Basilio caught him again with a hook, Basilio continued to take the fight to Pender until after the middle rounds Pender decided to use his height and range to outbox Basilio, Pender kept is simple, jab, right hand and some nice lateral movement and he pulled away on the cards with Basilio struggling to land anything meaningful

In the 13th Pender decked Basilio with what the commentator said was a left hook but I thought he caught him with a right then came over with the left, either way Basilio's legs were like jelly and he was lucky the bell ended the round, Basilio was down again in the last round from a leaping left hook from Pender, Basilio bravely made it to the end but Pender was a clear winner

Pender seemed to have been lost in the shuffle when it comes to the middleweights in the 1950s and early 1960s. For whatever reason, you hardly ever hear of him.

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Mar 2019, 20:29 Alfonso Zamora vs Carlos Zarate

Every once in a while I watch this fight again. A competitive first round where Zamora stunned Zarate with a hook, but that was his best moment as Zarate's measured attack soon had Zamora rocked and finally out in the fourth.

Zamora was a favorite of mine after knocking out Soo Hwan Hong in a tough fight the year before.

Some putz came into the ring in the first round in his underwear and had to be taken out by five cops. That was more competitive than the fight was.

That was pretty funny. lol

John H Stracey vs Hedgemon Lewis


Stracey stops Lewis in the 10th to retain his World Welterweight title, good performance from Stracey, chipped away at Lewis and broke him down bit by bit, Lewis had a decent 1st round, looked dangerous with the right hand and tagged Stracey flush with it a couple of times but Stracey took over soon after, his jab was excellent , he just kept pushing it out and unsettling Lewis with it, digging in some lefts to the body and rights over the top, good variety from Stracey and by the 7th Lewis was out of ideas and looking sorry for himself , Stracey was walking him down and beating him up, Lewis had no answers for the relentless aggression of Stracey, he had a torrid 9th and was battered around the ring for most of the round, it was no surprise Stracey got him out of there in the 10th, he pinned Lewis on the ropes and was pinballing his head with lefts and rights before the ref stepped in as Lewis slumped to the canvas

handsofstone wrote: ↑25 Mar 2019, 15:56 John H Stracey vs Hedgemon Lewis


Stracey stops Lewis in the 10th to retain his World Welterweight title, good performance from Stracey, chipped away at Lewis and broke him down bit by bit, Lewis had a decent 1st round, looked dangerous with the right hand and tagged Stracey flush with it a couple of times but Stracey took over soon after, his jab was excellent , he just kept pushing it out and unsettling Lewis with it, digging in some lefts to the body and rights over the top, good variety from Stracey and by the 7th Lewis was out of ideas and looking sorry for himself , Stracey was walking him down and beating him up, Lewis had no answers for the relentless aggression of Stracey, he had a torrid 9th and was battered around the ring for most of the round, it was no surprise Stracey got him out of there in the 10th, he pinned Lewis on the ropes and was pinballing his head with lefts and rights before the ref stepped in

Straaaaaaaa-seeeeeeeeeeee!!

Jorge Fernando Castro vs. John David Jackson

Carlos Palomino vs John H Stracey



Palomino stops Stracey in the 12th to become World Welterweight champion, excellent performance from Palomino, he was never behind in the fight or looked like he wasn't in total control, he outboxed and outfought Stracey at all times, Stracey played his part he did tag Palomino flush with some hard shots but Palomino always come back with something better, his jab was better than Stracey's, his right cross, his left to the body, left hook to the head, Palomino had every shot in the book

By the 8th round Stracey was fighting on pure heart and bravery and it was becoming a tough watch as Palomino upped the tempo and started to really put it on him, Stracey done very well to stay on his feet more than once but it was a lost cause, he was taking a pounding

Finally Palomino broke his resolve in the 12th, he crumpled Stracey with a vicious left to the body, Stracey somehow got up but was down again from the same shot, things should've been stopped there and then but the ref allowed it to continue, when Palomino had Stracey wincing badly from another sickening left downstairs the ref finally stepped in

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 15:40 Carlos Palomino vs John H Stracey



Palomino stops Stracey in the 12th to become World Welterweight champion, excellent performance from Palomino, he was never behind in the fight or looked like he wasn't in total control, he outboxed and outfought Stracey at all times, Stracey played his part he did tag Palomino flush with some hard shots but Palomino always come back with something better, his jab was better than Stracey's, his right cross, his left to the body, left hook to the head, Palomino had every shot in the book

By the 8th round Stracey was fighting on pure heart and bravery and it was becoming a tough watch as Palomino upped the tempo and started to really put it on him, Stracey done very well to stay on his feet more than once but it was a lost cause, he was taking a pounding

Finally Palomino broke his resolve in the 12th, he crumpled Stracey with a vicious left to the body, Stracey somehow got up but was down again from the same shot, things should've been stopped there and then but the ref allowed it to continue, when Palomino had Stracey wincing badly from another sickening left downstairs the ref finally stepped in

watch the Palomino-Green fight when you get an hour free mate- it's a brutal scrap (for both men)

Osca De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas! Watched this back again recently, great performance from Oscar to get the stoppage when most thought he didn't have the power to do so at 154. Glorious left hook that man has.

I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:03 I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

they sound like they're all worth a watch, cheers

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:45

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:03 I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

they sound like they're all worth a watch, cheers

Last weeks binge included the Vicente Saldivar-Howard Winstone trilogy, Saldivar-Ismael Laguna (now that one I felt Laguna edged him) and up next are Sugar Ramos-Mando Ramos, Ramos-Floyd Robertson and Shozo Saijo-Frankie Crawford II. All highly recommended too.

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 12:08

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:45

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:03 I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

they sound like they're all worth a watch, cheers

Last weeks binge included the Vicente Saldivar-Howard Winstone trilogy, Saldivar-Ismael Laguna (now that one I felt Laguna edged him) and up next are Sugar Ramos-Mando Ramos, Ramos-Floyd Robertson and Shozo Saijo-Frankie Crawford II. All highly recommended too.

Saijo-Crawford is a good one. I thought Saldivar just did enough to outwork laguna in the early rounds IIRC

a few of those fights come up on this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153055&p=4602082&hi ... s#p4602082

Willie Pastrano vs Harold Johnson


Pastrano wins a 15 round split over Johnson to become World Light Heavyweight champ, close fight and pretty dull TBH, Pastrano won the fight on the jab alone, his tactics from the first round to the last was to circle Johnson and jab him and he did a great job for the most part, Johnson was on the front foot for the whole fight and looked the stronger and landed all the eye catching shots but Pastrano was just so consistent with the jab it was winning most rounds when sometimes Johnson would just press without landing

Johnson did stun Pastrano with a right in the 13th but he shook it off well, it was a pick 'em fight, Pastrano's workrate and accuracy or Johnson better punches, i'd probably agree Pastrano nicked enough rounds to edge it

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 06:29

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 15:40 Carlos Palomino vs John H Stracey



Palomino stops Stracey in the 12th to become World Welterweight champion, excellent performance from Palomino, he was never behind in the fight or looked like he wasn't in total control, he outboxed and outfought Stracey at all times, Stracey played his part he did tag Palomino flush with some hard shots but Palomino always come back with something better, his jab was better than Stracey's, his right cross, his left to the body, left hook to the head, Palomino had every shot in the book

By the 8th round Stracey was fighting on pure heart and bravery and it was becoming a tough watch as Palomino upped the tempo and started to really put it on him, Stracey done very well to stay on his feet more than once but it was a lost cause, he was taking a pounding

Finally Palomino broke his resolve in the 12th, he crumpled Stracey with a vicious left to the body, Stracey somehow got up but was down again from the same shot, things should've been stopped there and then but the ref allowed it to continue, when Palomino had Stracey wincing badly from another sickening left downstairs the ref finally stepped in

watch the Palomino-Green fight when you get an hour free mate- it's a brutal scrap (for both men)

Sound mate i'll give it a watch

its a much better, more competitive fight than the Stracey fight mate- Palomino was generally pretty stone-faced in the ring, but you can see several times that Green unsettles him with his intensity

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 12:08

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:45

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:03 I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

they sound like they're all worth a watch, cheers

Last weeks binge included the Vicente Saldivar-Howard Winstone trilogy, Saldivar-Ismael Laguna (now that one I felt Laguna edged him) and up next are Sugar Ramos-Mando Ramos, Ramos-Floyd Robertson and Shozo Saijo-Frankie Crawford II. All highly recommended too.

The great Vicente Saldivar! What a fighter! El Zurdo de Oro is one of my favorite fighters from Mexico. A top 100 pound per pound ATG in my view.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 13:07

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 12:08

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:45

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 11:03 I've been binge watching this week. I watched Vicente Saldivar vs. Johnny Famechon which was an excellent and very close featherweight championship fight. As is usually the case with Aussie commentators their guy always will get the benefit of the doubt and win but I feel the decision is just. Famechon did start the faster with his excellent skills but Saldivar began to overpower him as was often the case and he eeked out a close one.

Also watched Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata which was a very good fight. Saldivar in a role reversal of starting the faster but then succumbing to Shibata late. Shibata busted him up pretty good from the 10th onwards but Saldivar wouldn't go away easily. What's pretty cool here is that Nacho Beristain was in Saldivar's corner and aged about 30 but he still looked the same as when he was 60.

Also watched Frankie Crawford-Mando Ramos I which was an excellent, high paced encounter between two young prospects of the time. I watched the Fighting Harada-Pone Kingpetch fights too. Excellent action with Harada fighting at a furious pace. An incredible performance to KO Kingpetch in fight I and the second fight IMO was a robbery but the Thai got the hometown decision. I highly recommend this pair of fights to anyone who's not seen them,

they sound like they're all worth a watch, cheers

Last weeks binge included the Vicente Saldivar-Howard Winstone trilogy, Saldivar-Ismael Laguna (now that one I felt Laguna edged him) and up next are Sugar Ramos-Mando Ramos, Ramos-Floyd Robertson and Shozo Saijo-Frankie Crawford II. All highly recommended too.

The great Vicente Saldivar! What a fighter! El Zurdo de Oro is one of my favorite fighters from Mexico. A top 100 pound per pound ATG in my view.

Did you get my PM? I sent Buchanan-Laguna I to you.