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Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Sounds like someone wants to get sued!

polecateddy wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:24

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Sounds like someone wants to get sued!

Terry isn't too sure, to be fair. He says he is a big fan of Tyson the boxer, not the businessman.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Nothing surprises me with Tyson/John. To be honest, what’s Frank going to do? He’s not going to go down the legal route or publicly have a go as Fury is, by some distance, the biggest star boxing in the U.K.

John’s shown contracts don’t mean much to him with Tommy/Jake stuff.

Do the Saudis even know who Manuel Charr is?

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:47

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Nothing surprises me with Tyson/John. To be honest, what’s Frank going to do? He’s not going to go down the legal route or publicly have a go as Fury is, by some distance, the biggest star boxing in the U.K.

John’s shown contracts don’t mean much to him with Tommy/Jake stuff.

It's worth a watch. Terry is quite clued up and balances out the hyperbole. Porky has said from day one that Team Fury only care about money. Even Andy Lee said it!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:53

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:47

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Nothing surprises me with Tyson/John. To be honest, what’s Frank going to do? He’s not going to go down the legal route or publicly have a go as Fury is, by some distance, the biggest star boxing in the U.K.

John’s shown contracts don’t mean much to him with Tommy/Jake stuff.

It's worth a watch. Terry is quite clued up and balances out the hyperbole. Porky has said from day one that Team Fury only care about money. Even Andy Lee said it!

Thanks for sharing this. The whole thing just seems bizarre. Since Fury vs Uysk negotiations began, Paul vs Fury was negotiated and the fight has taken place, and it looks like the rematch is now set for July. Meanwhile, no confirmation of Fury vs Uysk.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:53

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:47

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:22 Porky and Terry are claiming Tyson and Big John are trying to do a deal with the Saudis on their own. Literally. No Fwank, etc.

Nothing surprises me with Tyson/John. To be honest, what’s Frank going to do? He’s not going to go down the legal route or publicly have a go as Fury is, by some distance, the biggest star boxing in the U.K.

John’s shown contracts don’t mean much to him with Tommy/Jake stuff.

It's worth a watch. Terry is quite clued up and balances out the hyperbole. Porky has said from day one that Team Fury only care about money. Even Andy Lee said it!

The Saudis must have been offering a lot of cheddar. No?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 15:29

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:53

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 08:47

Nothing surprises me with Tyson/John. To be honest, what’s Frank going to do? He’s not going to go down the legal route or publicly have a go as Fury is, by some distance, the biggest star boxing in the U.K.

John’s shown contracts don’t mean much to him with Tommy/Jake stuff.

It's worth a watch. Terry is quite clued up and balances out the hyperbole. Porky has said from day one that Team Fury only care about money. Even Andy Lee said it!

The Saudis must have been offering a lot of cheddar. No?

Too much cheddar. With Fury and Usyk negotiating with the Saudis individually it's up to each team to get happy with their purse. Fury is just unhappy with how much Usyk has been offered because he's now seemed more willing to earn less to fight at Wembley but wants the split that he demands.

lol, hopefully he's not one of these utter tits who would rather have 70 percent of a 50m pot than 50 percent of a 100m pot

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 15:56 lol, hopefully he's not one of these utter tits who would rather have 70 percent of a 50m pot than 50 percent of a 100m pot

When SRL fought Hagler he got sick of the negotiation and named his price instead, which was $8,000,000 if memory serves.

Obviously Fury said half a bill and everyone laughed.

Overlap on YouTube with Gary Neville now is very good. Usyk special.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 16:00

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 15:56 lol, hopefully he's not one of these utter tits who would rather have 70 percent of a 50m pot than 50 percent of a 100m pot

When SRL fought Hagler he got sick of the negotiation and named his price instead, which was $8,000,000 if memory serves.

Obviously Fury said half a bill and everyone laughed.

Yeh, he got a fixed purse and Hagler got a percentage.

If I’m right, Hagler made more than SRL by the end of it.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 17:21

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 16:00

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 15:56 lol, hopefully he's not one of these utter tits who would rather have 70 percent of a 50m pot than 50 percent of a 100m pot

When SRL fought Hagler he got sick of the negotiation and named his price instead, which was $8,000,000 if memory serves.

Obviously Fury said half a bill and everyone laughed.

Yeh, he got a fixed purse and Hagler got a percentage.

If I’m right, Hagler made more than SRL by the end of it.

Yes sir he did.

In the back of my head, I’ve always suspected that Frank would be wary of Tyson ditching him like he did when he got cut out of the Wlad fight, as Fury/Hennessy did the deal with with Sky.

I figured Warren would ensure there was some kind of contingency in place in his contracts with him going forward, but the more I think about it, Fury is definitely up to something sneaky.

Frank has already told us months ago that the fight would/should be 50/50, even before it become obvious Saudi were the preferred option.

I can only imagine he and Arum must be absolutely livid that Fury is pissing about…it could get messy folks

Fury has shit the bed here. I like the guy, but he has clearly shit the bed.

Fwank says if the fight's not made this week, it's off. Let's hope it happens.

Just heard the interview with F W on talkSPORT.

It’s obvious this fight isn’t happening. He actually admitted it might not for the first time.

He couldn’t say it outright, but the problem is clearly Tyson wanting the Lion’s share of Wembley money now Saudi is off the table.

I thought he boxed for free and donated purses to charities?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 08:16 Just heard the interview with F W on talkSPORT.

It’s obvious this fight isn’t happening. He actually admitted it might not for the first time.

He couldn’t say it outright, but the problem is clearly Tyson wanting the Lion’s share of Wembley money now Saudi is off the table.

I thought he boxed for free and donated purses to charities?

Bit naive to think that. He clearly doesn’t.

Done with Fury if he doesn't take the fight.

So Fury will have ducked his two biggest rivals of the post-Klitschko era.

It's a shame that 50% against an unbeaten unified champion in a massive stadium isn't enough for Fury. Especially considering he was happy at 60/40 against AJ, who had no belts and was coming off back to back losses.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 08:35 It's a shame that 50% against an unbeaten unified champion in a massive stadium isn't enough for Fury. Especially considering he was happy at 60/40 against AJ, who had no belts and was coming off back to back losses.

It was probably an awful lot more money.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 08:36

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 08:35 It's a shame that 50% against an unbeaten unified champion in a massive stadium isn't enough for Fury. Especially considering he was happy at 60/40 against AJ, who had no belts and was coming off back to back losses.

It was probably an awful lot more money.

And an easier night's work. Fury has the chance to cement his legacy by being the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World. Something he has never been before and an opportunity that is unlikely to present itself again. If he doesn't take this fight, he'll be the guy who's victory of Klitschko was tarnished by failed drug tests. He'll be the guy who beat an ancient Wlad by landing less than eight punches per round.

Warren not sounding confident at all on the radio today:

We're still none the wiser. You need the agreement of both boxers to make it happen and at the moment we haven't got that. I have a pot and can only pay what's in it. If it's not enough money, then it won't happen.

It's not going to happen, could we be looking at Dubois or Andy Ruiz, or will they cancel Joyce's fight and throw him in with Fury?