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ABCs need to crack down on rematch clauses, if one of their baubles are on the line then there should be no rematch clause allowed, if the winner wants to go over old ground immediately then he should be stripped, I don't mind exceptions for terrible officiating but all in all they need binned

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 06:40 ABCs need to crack down on rematch clauses, if one of their baubles are on the line then there should be no rematch clause allowed, if the winner wants to go over old ground immediately then he should be stripped, I don't mind exceptions for terrible officiating but all in all they need binned

Absolutely. Especially when the top guys barely fight twice a year it ties belts up for too long and fighters wait ages for a mandatory shot.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:31

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2023, 09:41
OK, Tone.

Well it looks like the former British heavyweight great Big John Fury is trying to arrange a fight with Mike Tyson for the undercard ..

What a fk1n joke the Fury's are.

Are you upset Heggie, Christie and Joyce might not get on?

Any of those idiots would be more entertaining than watching Big John it must be said ..

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 04:21

big lennox wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:58 Eddie Hearn crystallising the issue:

Oh the irony from Eddie.

Eddie’s openly all about the money though. Tyson’s claimed several times in the past that he doesn’t care about money and would even fight for free, yet his actions are consistently contrary to that at the moment.

What I don’t agree with Eddie about is Fury turning down the Usyk fight. He technically didn’t - he was just so unreasonable on certain things that Usyk did walk away.

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 06:40 ABCs need to crack down on rematch clauses, if one of their baubles are on the line then there should be no rematch clause allowed, if the winner wants to go over old ground immediately then he should be stripped, I don't mind exceptions for terrible officiating but all in all they need binned

I don’t mind rematches too much but I think 2 rules need to be introduced for rematches involving world championship fights.

1. They have to happen quickly. The loser of the fight has to be ready to go again inside of 4 months otherwise he loses the right to it. I didn’t have a big deal with AJ rematching Usyk or Ruiz but they both should have happened quicker.

2. The promoter of the fight or the TV network the fight will happen on has the option to say no. We got a rematch no one wanted with Kambosos against Haney as the gap in class was too big and we’re seemingly getting a rematch of an awful fight between CBS/Okolie. In both cases almost everyone bar the loser of the original fight would rather the rematch didn’t happen.

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 07:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:31

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:13

Well it looks like the former British heavyweight great Big John Fury is trying to arrange a fight with Mike Tyson for the undercard ..

What a fk1n joke the Fury's are.

Are you upset Heggie, Christie and Joyce might not get on?

Any of those idiots would be more entertaining than watching Big John it must be said ..

But if he's fighting Mike Tyson, as you say, that would bring astronomical numbers to the show. Great move, if your source is correct.

Yep .. but once again it's a circus money grab. Which to be fair is only possible because there's so many Fury mugs out there.

Boxing shoots itself

I'm going to REALLY P**S OFF the Tyson Fury haters by promoting the fight. Sometimes its not what you know it's WHO you know

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 08:47

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 07:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:31
Are you upset Heggie, Christie and Joyce might not get on?

Any of those idiots would be more entertaining than watching Big John it must be said ..

But if he's fighting Mike Tyson, as you say, that would bring astronomical numbers to the show. Great move, if your source is correct.

Tyson is still Tyson, warm up against Micky Theo first?

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:12 Yep .. but once again it's a circus money grab. Which to be fair is only possible because there's so many Fury mugs out there.

Boxing shoots itself

Mike Tyson is also very popular, mate. I hope your info is correct.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 04:21

big lennox wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:58 Eddie Hearn crystallising the issue:

Oh the irony from Eddie.

Yeah, the irony is that Eddie's charge, AJ, fought Usyk..... TWICE. Fury hasn't fought him once.

How the xxxx can anyone apologise for Big John v Mike Tyson.
C’mon now.

Just for buys?

We might as well have…

Tyson Fury versus a novice for the World Heavyweight title.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:57

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:12 Yep .. but once again it's a circus money grab. Which to be fair is only possible because there's so many Fury mugs out there.

Boxing shoots itself

Mike Tyson is also very popular, mate. I hope your info is correct.

John Fury wanting to face Mike Tyson in Saudi is out there - little chance Mike Tyson would do it though is it. He did an exhibition against an all time great in Roy Jones and talked of another against another all time great in Holyfield. Little chance against some guy who at his peak was not even British title level.

What is it that makes you want to see it? The Tyson Fury connection?

So if the John Fury v Iron Mike fight happens and John loses, we can look forward to Tyson v Tyson in another six months or so. Tyson Fury seeking revenge etc etc

The thread goes on! You can guarantee whatever further decisions Tyson Fury takes with his career, they will involve if not zero, close to zero in terms of risk.

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:53

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:57

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:12 Yep .. but once again it's a circus money grab. Which to be fair is only possible because there's so many Fury mugs out there.

Boxing shoots itself

Mike Tyson is also very popular, mate. I hope your info is correct.

John Fury wanting to face Mike Tyson in Saudi is out there - some guy who at his peak was not even British title level

Not even area level.

sweetmagee wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:56 So if the John Fury v Iron Mike fight happens and John loses, we can look forward to Tyson v Tyson in another six months or so. Tyson Fury seeking revenge etc etc

You joke but if they could make money out of it they would do it for sure.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 15:36

sweetmagee wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:56 So if the John Fury v Iron Mike fight happens and John loses, we can look forward to Tyson v Tyson in another six months or so. Tyson Fury seeking revenge etc etc

You joke but if they could make money out of it they would do it for sure.

It could also make brain damage. Grandfathers and boxing don't mix.

Mike Tyson insists on wearing safety goggles if the bout happens. John Fury calls him a "feather duster" and says Mike's not a real fighting man.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 14:19

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:53

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 11:57
Mike Tyson is also very popular, mate. I hope your info is correct.

John Fury wanting to face Mike Tyson in Saudi is out there - some guy who at his peak was not even British title level

Not even area level.

John backed out against Mickey Theo

Coco wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 16:41

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 14:19

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:53

John Fury wanting to face Mike Tyson in Saudi is out there - some guy who at his peak was not even British title level

Not even area level.

John backed out against Mickey Theo

He definitely indulged in some serious bloviating when his bluff was called. At least Mickey1975 just said no thanks to my offer of a sparring session and didn't come up with any crazy demands or start challenging former world champions instead of me.

Wow! 59 pages and motoring.

This 'ignoring' and 'disinterest' in Tyson Fury knows no bounds!

jwfg wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 04:21

big lennox wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 03:58 Eddie Hearn crystallising the issue:

Oh the irony from Eddie.

Yeah, the irony is that Eddie's charge, AJ, fought Usyk..... TWICE. Fury hasn't fought him once.

No irony that Eddie’s charge, AJ, has just turned down 2 shots at the WBC title?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 03:37

jwfg wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 13:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023, 04:21
Oh the irony from Eddie.

Yeah, the irony is that Eddie's charge, AJ, fought Usyk..... TWICE. Fury hasn't fought him once.

No irony that Eddie’s charge, AJ, has just turned down 2 shots at the WBC title?

AJ probably thought Fury's offers were make believe, so, in reality, he hasn't turned down any offer, unlike Fury running into a third fight with Wilder once terms with AJ were agreed.

What is not disputed is that Fury's one fight this year will be against an aged MMA fighter, who hasn't had a fight in 18 months, and never boxed before as an amateur or as a pro.

Boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is without freak show, barbaric events like this.

Similarly, I didn't think it was particularly healthy to put Fury in with a 40 year old Chisora for a third time, a Chisora who had lost 3 out of his previous 4 outings.

No doubt it will be Fury vs Jon Jones after Ngannou.

How will Fury play this 'fight'?

The reality is, if Fury took on Ngannou in MMA he would get completely iced comfortably inside the first round.

Therefore, does Fury need to make a statement and try and do the same thing to Ngannou in Round 1?

Or will he try and give the fans their moneys worth and allow it to go a few rounds?

Either way, I don't know what the attraction is for the fans. A lot of people who are critical of the fight have said they will still watch it, but why, when the winner is known in advance?