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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 18:25
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Who and who is going to be there for this one?

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Frank
I'm going in for eye surgery the 27th,but I'm supposed to be OK. I don't know. Rog
Frank . . . Monica and I will be there. Roger, good luck with your surgery. Hope you can make it.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 19:20
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

JERRY QUARRY

:TU: . . . That's Jerry.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 19:39
by Rick Farris
Rick Farris wrote:Rick, do you remember the boxing-themed episode of 6M Man where Jerry Quarry had a pretty good role? It just wasn't his boxing scenes where he's supposed to spar with Majors to see what he has and to teach him the finer points (Quarry is 'amazed' how quick Steve Austin picks up on the sport as he is 'unaware' of Austin's bionic frame), but Jerry has some good lines in the episode.
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Scar . . . I remember the episode well, although I never watched it on TV. I remember seeing my Uncle in the Universal Set Lighting office before work one day, and he told me Jerry was guest starring on his show, inviting me to stop by the the stage later to say hello to him.

At the time, Universal Studios was not only the world's biggest studio, but the busiest in it's history, with multiple TV productions, feature films, TV movies, etc. I was working on "Kojak" at the time, and after out lunch break I visited the "$6 Million Man" set to say hello to my former stablemate.

Some of the other Universal TV productions at the time were . . . Baretta, Rockford Files, The Incredible Hulk, Quincy, Switch, Adam-12, Marcus Welby M.D., Emergency, McCloud, Battle Star Galactica, Buck Rogers, The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries, MacMillan & Wife, The Bionic Woman and several more.

-Rick Farris

Side note on Universal . . . During the mid-to-late 70's, when I broke into the film business, there was much more film production taking place in L.A. Our studios were packed, and sound stage space was at hard to find. Many an industrial warehouse was converted into a studio production facility, just to accomodate the need for Sound Stages.

We had the best film makers in the world working then, guys who were old school vets and the newer group, the Spielberg's, Coppola's, Hal Ashby, etc. There was a certain honor among the old school legends. The camermen I would work with were like the old school Hollywood Legion Boxers, like the Bolanos', Ortiz's, etc. They were the class of the business, and they taught me a lot, I dove into the job I had and had lots of opportunity to work with the best, just as I had in boxing.

It was the last of a great age in Hollywood Film Production. Today, it no longer exists, not like it was. We still have great artists and thanks to computor technology, mistakes made by many today who are lost on a film set, can be corrected in post production. We didn't have that safety net, we had to shoot it right, or it wouldn't be right. Things in Hollywood have changed, just like Los Angeles boxing has changed.

If you knew the film business as you know the boxing business, you feel a little empty, just as a few of us do here when considering the state of boxing in L.A. Who is to say what's better? All I can say is that it used to be a lot more fun.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 20:05
by kikibalt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 20:50
by dagosd2000
Frank
I see on Frankie's record that the Solorio fight was his second to last fight. Did you think that his next fight would be his last one? Why did Frankie stop after his next fight? To do it over again what would would Frankie and his team have done differently?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:04
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
Frank
I see on Frankie's record that the Solorio fight was his second to last fight. Did you think that his next fight would be his last one? Why did Frankie stop after his next fight? To do it over again what would would Frankie and his team have done differently?
We all didn't want him or Tony to fight anymore, Frankie listened to us, Tony didn't, Frankie was 32 years old at the time of Solorio fight and had been boxing 26 year, we were happy to see Frankie walk away with his health intack, Tony said he would keep on fighting, I told Tony "Mijo, I love you but, I have to walk away", I told him that when fighters get old and keep on fighting thats when they have a bigger chance of getting hurt, Tony had 2-3 fights in Arizona without me been there.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:17
by dagosd2000
GOIN' NOWHERE

I used to work with Ronnie Wilson's father in law. He was a maintainence man at Juvenile Hall when I was teachin' there. Sometimes I'd eat lunch with him outside at the bench in the back lot. He was disgusted by the way Ronnie was being handled.
"That damn Flaherty keeps putting him in there with guys he's already beat,"was one of his gripes.

Ronnie at the time was drinking more and more. Denny Moyer had come to San Diego to fight the bum of the week. Sometimes Denny would resemble the bum more than his opponent. All I can say , the drinkin' escalated when the Irishman came to town. Both were with Sid Flaherty.
"Flaherty fights Ronnie too much. He doesn't give him time to rest. His cuts don't heal properly,"the father in law would go on.

Ronnie's career seemed to be going no where. After the Mike Quarry fight,his future didn't look good. He couldn't get by Mike. If he couldn't beat Mike how could he have bearen a Tiger or a Foster? Back then there weren't all these psuedo titles like you have today.
"When Rouse broke Ronnie's jaw,he should have stopped fighting,"was added to the list of complaints by the relative.

Hell,what could you or me or anyone...his wife,no body could get through to him. The Irish in him was stubborn as hell and he'd get upset if he thought you had his best interests at heart.
"It's just a quick buck for Flaherty and Rodriguez that's all it is. A quick buck,"add another.

Yeh,it wasn't fun to watch at the end. Only if I'd drink with him. Throw in Denny too. Thinking when you're drunk makes you think you can beat the world. Try fighting drunk. Boxing is a reality check for the frauds of the world. Especially for the fighter that is kidding himself. It's a house of cards that gets blown away with a good left hook.

Ronnie's Wilson took some awfull beatings at the end. A career that was goin' nowhere is all I could say.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:23
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
Frank
I see on Frankie's record that the Solorio fight was his second to last fight. Did you think that his next fight would be his last one? Why did Frankie stop after his next fight? To do it over again what would would Frankie and his team have done differently?
We all didn't want him or Tony to fight anymore, Frankie listened to us, Tony didn't, Frankie was 32 years old at the time of Solorio fight and had been boxing 26 year, we were happy to see Frankie walk away with his health intack, Tony said he would keep on fighting, I told Tony "Mijo, I love you but, I have to walk away", I told him that when fighters get old and keep on fighting thats when they have a bigger chance of getting hurt, Tony had 2-3 fights in Arizona without me been there.
Frank,God bless you. I mean that. You were absolutely right. I'm sorry Tony didn't listen to you.

My father used to manage some prelim guys in Chicago and Tijuana. He told them,"Lose two in a row,and find yourself another manager."

All great athletes end their careers on the down side. But in boxing,it's different. Instead of striking out,a boxer can wind up hurt permamently.

You're a good dad. I think your sons know that. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:36
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mxLFYpkMFo

I Got A Break Baby

T Bone Walker

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:40
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkftesK2dck

Sweet Home Chicago

Robert Johnson

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:44
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8OKqSqb890

Hound Dog

Big Mama Thornton and Buddy Guy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:47
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:52
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeeGMpM_Nk
"Willie And The Hand Jive"

Johnny Otis

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 21:57
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBOyWdcfi4g
"Please Release Me

Little Esther Phillips

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:10
by kikibalt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:10
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeeGMpM_Nk
"Willie And The Hand Jive"

Johnny Otis
Frank
I just caught the tail end of it. When guys like Johnny Otis would take their show down to San Diego. There was a place out in El Cajon called "The Bostonia Ballroom." I saw Johnny Otis there with his group. Before the British Invasion when every singer started to get political and pissed off. Guys like Johnny Otis were happy singers.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:14
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncD0miHJIbA
"Too Young"

Nat King Cole
You know as well as me Frank. Put on a Nat Cole record and you know all the songs are good. Same with Frank and Dean and Tony. Ella...Oh that list gets long. Sad thing is,those stars are gone. But we have CD's and Youtube. Thank God for Thomas Edison. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:17
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeeGMpM_Nk
"Willie And The Hand Jive"

Johnny Otis
Frank
I just caught the tail end of it. When guys like Johnny Otis would take their show down to San Diego. There was a place out in El Cajon called "The Bostonia Ballroom." I saw Johnny Otis there with his group. Before the British Invasion when every singer started to get political and pissed off. Guys like Johnny Otis were happy singers.
Rog...More Johnny Otis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5oS1_0GfI

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:24
by kikibalt
A song that I used to sing to Connie back in the day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwrK5P-3qlg
"I Love You Yes I Do"

Bullmoose Jackson

I think this was before your time, Rog.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:27
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:28
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0DBf-z4wk
"The Honeydipper"

Joe Liggins

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:32
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:A song that I used to sing to Connie back in the day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwrK5P-3qlg
"I Love You Yes I Do"

Bullmoose Jackson

I think this was before your time, Rog.
Well I was 1 year old. The only song I could sing was "WAH,WAH,WAH!!!"
BTW,Could you sing that again and post it for us? :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:33
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3E9oqQOVJI
"The Hucklebuck"

Lucky Millander

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:34
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0DBf-z4wk
"The Honeydipper"

Joe Liggins
YEH :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 22:38
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0-TkTazhIk
"Drinkin Wine Spo-De-Dee"

Stick McGhee