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"Classic American West Coast Boxing" Year-1 on Disc . . .

Our Friend John Bardelli is doing the regulars on this thread a big favor by putting our first year on a disc. John will send me several copies which I will then forward on to: Frank, Roger, Brian, Dan, Bennie, Randy, Tom, Bruce & Rob. The first year will be saved on disc, no chance of losing now. Maybe next year we can update it with a "second year" version.

It will take John a couple of weeks to finish, he's attempting to get the entire year on one disc. As soon as I have them, I will contact everybody for mailing addresses, etc.

Thank you, John!

-Rick Farris

scartissue wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Alfredo Urbina



Alfredo Urbina was another fighter that was always in a thrilling fight, and like Dan, I too think that Urbina was a very underrated fighter, I seen his fights live against,

Jimmy Hornsby

Bobby Scanlon

Gil Cadilli

Carlos Hernandez

Frank, I was reading an old article about Urbina's fight with Bunny Grant, where he lost a sqeaker down in Jamaica. After the fight he and his manager (his last name was Lopez) were saying they were robbed just like the Carlos Hernandez fight. Was the Hernandez fight that close?

Scartissue

Dan...What I remember about the Hernandez fight was, Hernandez been in charge of the fight most of the time, I didn't think there was a doubt as to who won that night, Hernandez won that fight imho.

Baby Vasquez

Rick Farris wrote:"Classic American West Coast Boxing" Year-1 on Disc . . .

Our Friend John Bardelli is doing the regulars on this thread a big favor by putting our first year on a disc. John will send me several copies which I will then forward on to: Frank, Roger, Brian, Dan, Bennie, Randy, Tom, Bruce & Rob. The first year will be saved on disc, no chance of losing now. Maybe next year we can update it with a "second year" version.

It will take John a couple of weeks to finish, he's attempting to get the entire year on one disc. As soon as I have them, I will contact everybody for mailing addresses, etc.

Thank you, John!

-Rick Farris

From one paisan to another. Thenks John

kikibalt wrote:The reason I am reposting the boys fights is that, the other ones that I posted were taken of You Tube.

Thanks for putting them back on

dagosd2000 wrote:

Baby Vasquez

I'm always amazed at how quickly Roger can put an image to canvas. His combination of color, light and shadow, the incredible detail, and that special talent of being able to capture the subject's soul thru the eyes.

All I can say is, that's an ARTIST! Thanks for sharing your gift, Rog.


-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:The reason I am reposting the boys fights is that, the other ones that I posted were taken of You Tube.

Thanks for putting them back on

Ditto, Frank. I don't comment much on the boys fights, I saw many in person or on TV, however, I still slip a Baltazar fight disc into the machine late at night, usually when I finish work and want to unwind.

In today's world, sometimes I just have to watch a "real" boxer in action, a guy who is both a ring artist and technician. Frank made sure these kids all mastered the basics, long before they stepped into a pro ring. It shows, that's why Frankie Jr. was able to fight a tough vet in a main event at the age of 18, and win big. Tony's hook was picture perfect, and left bodies unconcious when he was just a child. Bobby was no different, perhaps a little smarter than most, stepping away from an unbeaten pro record to pursue an intelligent life.

We in L.A. had a lot of fun with the Baltazar family, for many years. I miss those days today, because there really isn't anything like it.


-Rick Farris

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:The reason I am reposting the boys fights is that, the other ones that I posted were taken of You Tube.

Thanks for putting them back on

Thanks, Rog.

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Baby Vasquez

I'm always amazed at how quickly Roger can put an image to canvas. His combination of color, light and shadow, the incredible detail, and that special talent of being able to capture the subject's soul thru the eyes.

All I can say is, that's an ARTIST! Thanks for sharing your gift, Rog.


-Rick

Rog is the master of the brushes....

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:The reason I am reposting the boys fights is that, the other ones that I posted were taken of You Tube.

Thanks for putting them back on

Ditto, Frank. I don't comment much on the boys fights, I saw many in person or on TV, however, I still slip a Baltazar fight disc into the machine late at night, usually when I finish work and want to unwind.

In today's world, sometimes I just have to watch a "real" boxer in action, a guy who is both a ring artist and technician. Frank made sure these kids all mastered the basics, long before they stepped into a pro ring. It shows, that's why Frankie Jr. was able to fight a tough vet in a main event at the age of 18, and win big. Tony's hook was picture perfect, and left bodies unconcious when he was just a child. Bobby was no different, perhaps a little smarter than most, stepping away from an unbeaten pro record to pursue an intelligent life.

We in L.A. had a lot of fun with the Baltazar family, for many years. I miss those days today, because there really isn't anything like it.


-Rick Farris

Thanks, Rick.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Alfredo Angulo . . .

Just what I expected.
The scar tissue under both eye brows told me something, as I looked into his face.
Less than a round went by before he was bleeding. He cut in his last fight, too.
He's macho, will try to bull his way to a championship before the blood totally blinds him.
He's willing to take a punch, and he'll have no choice.
Today, they'll make sure he wins a title. Something like . . .
TWBOC Federal Grand National Super-Welterweight Northern Sierra Latin Championship of the World.
In ten years he'll still be fighting. He'll have more than eighty fights on his record, losing the last nine, seven by TKO.
He'll lose his license in California. Something about an MRI.
He might find work in T.J.
Another Palooka is still trying to fight down there. His name is Margarito?
They say he'll fight anybody, he once held a world title. Not doing well, kind of sad.
They shouldn't allow him to fight, but what the Hell, everybody's got a right to make a buck.
The year is 2017 . . . Angulo vs. Margarito in TJ. Sounds like a dream match.
I'll call Rog, see if he wants to drive across the border with me. Who better to see a fight with in TJ?
Roger will appreciate the irony.
Maria and Monica can go shopping, or do what women do.
After the fights, a quick stop off at the BOOM-BOOM Room, to discuss what we just saw.
"Man there was a lot of blood! They really shouldn't allow these guys to fight anymore."
What more can you say?


-Rick Farris

Rick
That would be interesting. As far as Moni and Maria shopping?I think that would be more interesting than seeing the fight,but we can still take in The Boom Boom Club

Yeah, let's skip the fight . . . The Boom Boom Club? It's kinda caught my interest, maybe it will come back some day? Of course, that's kinda like saying that maybe Denny Moyer might come back, or Dwight Hawkins, Enrique Bolanos?

I must keep in mind something Johnnie Flores once said . . . "Time marches on."

-Rick Farris

Rick Farris wrote:"Classic American West Coast Boxing" Year-1 on Disc . . .

Our Friend John Bardelli is doing the regulars on this thread a big favor by putting our first year on a disc. John will send me several copies which I will then forward on to: Frank, Roger, Brian, Dan, Bennie, Randy, Tom, Bruce & Rob. The first year will be saved on disc, no chance of losing now. Maybe next year we can update it with a "second year" version.

It will take John a couple of weeks to finish, he's attempting to get the entire year on one disc. As soon as I have them, I will contact everybody for mailing addresses, etc.

Thank you, John!

-Rick Farris

Wow! That is so great, John thank you, this thread is so great with so much history and connecting stories that should never be left to chance that it could all be erased! Thanks for including me, it will become one of my treasured possessions!
Bruce

kikibalt wrote:

scartissue wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Alfredo Urbina



Alfredo Urbina was another fighter that was always in a thrilling fight, and like Dan, I too think that Urbina was a very underrated fighter, I seen his fights live against,

Jimmy Hornsby

Bobby Scanlon

Gil Cadilli

Carlos Hernandez

Frank, I was reading an old article about Urbina's fight with Bunny Grant, where he lost a sqeaker down in Jamaica. After the fight he and his manager (his last name was Lopez) were saying they were robbed just like the Carlos Hernandez fight. Was the Hernandez fight that close?

Scartissue

Dan...What I remember about the Hernandez fight was, Hernandez been in charge of the fight most of the time, I didn't think there was a doubt as to who won that night, Hernandez won that fight imho.

A quick scan of Hernandez' career gleans some amazing results. He knocked out world champ Davey Moore (breaking his jaw), Paolo Rosi (not on cuts, laying him out 3 times in the 1st round), Bunny Grant (stopped only twice in his career, by Clyde Gray at the end of his career and in 2 rounds by hernandez), Teo Cruz (only stopped twice, on cuts in 11 rounds to mando Ramos and in 3 rounds I believe by Hernandez), Kenny Lane, Alfredo Urbina and Joe Brown. Also, in losing efforts he had Jose Napoles, Eddie Perkins and Nicolino Loche on the canvas. This dude wielded some serious power.

Scartissue

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Baby Vasquez

I'm always amazed at how quickly Roger can put an image to canvas. His combination of color, light and shadow, the incredible detail, and that special talent of being able to capture the subject's soul thru the eyes.

All I can say is, that's an ARTIST! Thanks for sharing your gift, Rog.


-Rick

Rog is the master of the brushes....

Guys
I'm watching Lust For Life with Kirk Douglas and Tony Quinn.The story of Vincent Van Gogh. He painted fast too.I never take more than an hour or two. I may come back later and re touch. I've never had a lesson,but I study other artists and their techniques. I don't use an easel. I prop the canvas against something and paint sitting down. I trace first ,then use the brush. I hold it kind of like I'm using a pencil.

There's a correlation with my painting,eating,and screwing. I like to do all those things a lot. Thing is,I'm fast with all those acts too. Doesn't sit well with the screwin' part,but I 've learned some techniques to take a little longer. The thing is my wife thinks I'm crazy because I 'm horny all the time. I try to tell her all artists have this "Lust For Life."

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Alfredo Angulo . . .

Just what I expected.
The scar tissue under both eye brows told me something, as I looked into his face.
Less than a round went by before he was bleeding. He cut in his last fight, too.
He's macho, will try to bull his way to a championship before the blood totally blinds him.
He's willing to take a punch, and he'll have no choice.
Today, they'll make sure he wins a title. Something like . . .
TWBOC Federal Grand National Super-Welterweight Northern Sierra Latin Championship of the World.
In ten years he'll still be fighting. He'll have more than eighty fights on his record, losing the last nine, seven by TKO.
He'll lose his license in California. Something about an MRI.
He might find work in T.J.
Another Palooka is still trying to fight down there. His name is Margarito?
They say he'll fight anybody, he once held a world title. Not doing well, kind of sad.
They shouldn't allow him to fight, but what the Hell, everybody's got a right to make a buck.
The year is 2017 . . . Angulo vs. Margarito in TJ. Sounds like a dream match.
I'll call Rog, see if he wants to drive across the border with me. Who better to see a fight with in TJ?
Roger will appreciate the irony.
Maria and Monica can go shopping, or do what women do.
After the fights, a quick stop off at the BOOM-BOOM Room, to discuss what we just saw.
"Man there was a lot of blood! They really shouldn't allow these guys to fight anymore."
What more can you say?


-Rick Farris

Rick
That would be interesting. As far as Moni and Maria shopping?I think that would be more interesting than seeing the fight,but we can still take in The Boom Boom Club

Yeah, let's skip the fight . . . The Boom Boom Club? It's kinda caught my interest, maybe it will come back some day? Of course, that's kinda like saying that maybe Denny Moyer might come back, or Dwight Hawkins, Enrique Bolanos?

I must keep in mind something Johnnie Flores once said . . . "Time marches on."

-Rick Farris

Rick
The Boom Boom was boom boomed 40 years ago. But there ain't no shortage of replacements in that town.

The Boom Boom doesn't need to come back.There's The Monaco,La Gloria,and the Burro just to name starters. But I'm tellin' ya' pal I'm out of practice on the drinkin' end. I may just order a club soda so I'll have enough in me to chase the girls around

A great and unusual artist,Frida Kahlo

HERE'S SOUP IN YOUR FACE

If you watch these Mexican novelas(soaps) on TV there's always a scene or two that takes place in a cantina. A night club. A bar. Where the boys hang out. I'm sorry,the men hang out. And these establishments are always packed to the doors with sultry women. If not, the males would just as soon do their drinkin' in private.

There's always a romantic situation that develops between the customer and one of these hot dishes. Often it's a triangle or even a square. I've even seen octagons. Blood is commonly shed and you don't need to turn the sound up on the TV to hear all the yelling.

It's a way of life. Girlfriends compliment the wife and sex isn't equated with love. Now that we know the rules,it's eeny meeny miny mo when it comes to selecting the proper establishment. Oh it's a man's world down there. You're a real dummy if you want to change that or balance things out. Just go with the flow. Indulge. Watch the gals pull each other's hair out over you.

I remember I had a cab driver friend that was locked up in the La Mesa Penitentiary in Tijuana. His girlfriend would stay with him during the week and his wife would stay with him on the weekends. One time on a Saturday they crossed paths in the yard. Well they could have charged admission to watch that one. The wife was bringing over soup for her husband,but when she met the number "two",the wife threw her recipe in her face. They're on the ground fightin' dirty as hell. Me and the husband look at each other without saying nothin'. Then the husband offers a comment.
"What a waste of soup. I really had a taste for it."

Guys
I'm watching Lust For Life with Kirk Douglas and Tony Quinn.The story of Vincent Van Gogh. He painted fast too.I never take more than an hour or two. I may come back later and re touch. I've never had a lesson,but I study other artists and their techniques. I don't use an easel. I prop the canvas against something and paint sitting down. I trace first ,then use the brush. I hold it kind of like I'm using a pencil.

There's a correlation with my painting,eating,and screwing. I like to do all those things a lot. Thing is,I'm fast with all those acts too. Doesn't sit well with the screwin' part,but I 've learned some techniques to take a little longer. The thing is my wife thinks I'm crazy because I 'm horny all the time. I try to tell her all artists have this "Lust For Life." :lol
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Rog . . . Monica thinks I'm crazy for the same reason. I had to share your post.
She say's she understands Maria's feelings.
I told her I have a "Lust for Life", too.
She just shook her head. "Honey, I'm Brazilian, I know what you lust for."

Can't argue with her. Viva Brazil!

-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

A great and unusual artist,Frida Kahlo

Roger . . . Last night, I was showing Monica one of your paintings.
She said, "Tell Roger my favorite artist is Frida". I forgot to mention it.
Monica has several things with Frida's image on it. Now you post this.
It's almost telepathic.

-Rick

Rick
The Boom Boom was boom boomed 40 years ago. But there ain't no shortage of replacements in that town.

The Boom Boom doesn't need to come back.There's The Monaco,La Gloria,and the Burro just to name starters. But I'm tellin' ya' pal I'm out of practice on the drinkin' end. I may just order a club soda so I'll have enough in me to chase the girls around.
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Rog, these days I might drink two Heinekens, now & then. That's about it, I prefer the way I feel when I come back from a hike in the nearby Hollywood Hills, followed by a boxing workout. Funny, the booze is a forgetable experience. The women? Monica is enough.

-Rick

MA RAINEY

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

A great and unusual artist,Frida Kahlo

Roger . . . Last night, I was showing Monica one of your paintings.
She said, "Tell Roger my favorite artist is Frida". I forgot to mention it.
Monica has several things with Frida's image on it. Now you post this.
It's almost telepathic.

-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

A great and unusual artist,Frida Kahlo

Roger . . . Last night, I was showing Monica one of your paintings.
She said, "Tell Roger my favorite artist is Frida". I forgot to mention it.
Monica has several things with Frida's image on it. Now you post this.
It's almost telepathic.

-Rick

A quick scan of Hernandez' career gleans some amazing results. He knocked out world champ Davey Moore (breaking his jaw), Paolo Rosi (not on cuts, laying him out 3 times in the 1st round), Bunny Grant (stopped only twice in his career, by Clyde Gray at the end of his career and in 2 rounds by hernandez), Teo Cruz (only stopped twice, on cuts in 11 rounds to mando Ramos and in 3 rounds I believe by Hernandez), Kenny Lane, Alfredo Urbina and Joe Brown. Also, in losing efforts he had Jose Napoles, Eddie Perkins and Nicolino Loche on the canvas. This dude wielded some serious power.

Scartissue
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Scar . . . I forget the publication and the exact words, however, in an article published in a top boxing magazine, during the great Roberto Duran's lightweight title reign, Duran expressed the highest respect for the punching power and skill of Carlos Hernandez. Duran never showed respect for any fighter, not in those days.

I'm curious about your thoughts on Carlos Hernandez being on this years WBHOF ballot? A bit over due, I'd say.

-Rick