Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Part of an E-Mail I send Rick, thought I would share it here.

My sister Rachel had a boy friend and when he would come over see her he had to go inside the house and sit with her in the living room because my mom and dad wouldn't let her out of the house, he used to drive a 1939 Chevy that he would park in front of the house, as soon as he would come inside the house I would go out the back door and hot wire his car and go pick up some of my friends and go joy riding in the brickyard, I would take it back just about the time that he would be leaving, park it in the same spot, he would get in the car, start it and see that he was missing gas, he would yell "Damn! they stole my gas again" Rachel would turn and look at me and give me the eye.....
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It ain't a bed of roses being a daughter in a Latin family,especially if the dad is still around. I remember when my brother in law Juan went to take his novia Carmela off to get married in Jiquilpan.. Her father was waiting at the door with a gun and shot him in the foot :witzend:
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Diamond Joe's wedding


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My father circa. !930
Great stuff, Rog. Diamond Joe was your grandfather, correct?
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Yeh,Gunned down March 21st,1928
What history! You need to write a book. Several.


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My dad with Al Capone at Wrigley Field. The boy in the photo once thought to be Al's son,Sonny,is my dad. He lived with Capone for a while.
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My dad with Al Capone at Wrigley Field. The boy in the photo once thought to be Al's son,Sonny,is my dad. He lived with Capone for a while.
I remember you posting this before, glad you did again. This photo is classic, the story behind it is classic American history. This is what I like, what intrigues me. The whole story of why your father was there, not everyday stuff, Roger.

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Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

My dad with Al Capone at Wrigley Field. The boy in the photo once thought to be Al's son,Sonny,is my dad. He lived with Capone for a while.
I remember you posting this before, glad you did again. This photo is classic, the story behind it is classic American history. This is what I like, what intrigues me. The whole story of why your father was there, not everyday stuff, Roger.

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I remember when my father told me about how he was in the parlor at Capone's mother's house when Frank Nitti told Al's lawyers to sell him out. Nitti said Capone had syphylis of the brain. Nitti was being indicted on tax evasion also. The deal was cut,Al went to jail,Nitti rose to the top. Nitti saw my father sitting there in the parlor and threatened to kill him if he talked. My father told me about it in 1968. Wrote about this before. It's for the new guys who came aboard.
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It is a classic photo.
Growing up in Chicago, we have heard about the stuff Rog knows firsthand.
Its fascinating for me to see his pictures and hear his stories.
Rogers history is this towns history in many ways.
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Hello to You All
Hope you can forgive this intrusion on your forum but i know some of the guys here know Rocky. Below is a copy of a post done by former ref Alan Sugar on cyberzone.
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I am sure our collective prayers and get well wishes go out to a man amongst men Rocky Alkazoff of the CyberboxingZone family. He is such a good man who has had so many bad things happen to him. I trust and believe with all my heart that Rocky is a stand up guy and honourable man who unfortunately has had a very tough life with many losses. I was in law enforcement a long time and know both sides of the fence and he is one of the strongest and most honourable men it has been my privilege to know.

About 3 weeks ago some cowardly intruder entered his home while he was sleeping and shot him 5 times with a .22. Rocky was awakened by being shot and fought with all his heart against this cowardly sneak attack by a murdering coward. Only his powerful body and iron will enabled him to survive the 5 shots and subsequent operation. The guy that shot him did not even know him, Rocky never saw him before, he just snuck into his home and kept shooting him in the back while he was sleeping. They had to open up his intestine, shoulders etc. He is lucky to be alive after such a cowardly attack. Just horrible.


So clean a trainer and liver is Rocky he even refused pain medication and seeks holistic healing. He actually ran 8 miles on the day of this terrible attack upon his sleeping person and swing a sledgehammer two hours a day. I have NEVER in all my life met a man more into honour and truth than Rocky and I am grief stricken that such a fate has befallen him. I spoke to him tonight and he is recuperating and leaving this totally in the police's hands to bring this attempted murderer to justice.

My prayers go out to him and the worst of it is he cannot exercise now and has a tough road to recovery. No one loves boxing more than Rocky who has lost his fiancee, his brother and went through the worst ordeals in the last year anyone could imagine and still has a good word and respect for all he meets. I hope God looks over him and heals him for another chance at a healthy and productive life and with all my prayers I wish him the best.
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Scar,

What I can tell you about Diablito Campos is that he was a very ackward fighter. Like you said he had been around since 1951 and I fought him in May of 1962. He was about 29 years old and knew what he was doing. I didn't know what kind of boxing record he had and to this day I still don't know. The fight took place in Mazatlan and was a sold out crowd. He had a big following there. People came to see how a 16 year old undefeated fighter would do against this much older big name fighter. From the very first round I had trouble with him. I had to figure out a different style of fighting and fast. He was wild. I didn't know if he was going to hit me with his elbow or his knee. He was probably the most unorthodox fighter I ever fought in my boxing career. It took me nine rounds to stop him when I got him in the corner and put him down. The referee stopped the fight. The promoter was so amazed that I beat Campos that he took my manager and me to dinner after the show at about mid-night. My pay for that fight was about $20 American money.

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'68 Jr. Golden Gloves Program- Open Class Finals


8/30/68- Teamsters Gym. 15th Annual Junior Golden Gloves Tournament- Finals

Check out the names who fought for the Championship that year . . .

Frankie Baltazar Jr., Albert Davila, Javiar Muniz, Rick Farris, Rudy Acuna, Rudy Robles, Kevin Morgan (L.C.'s son) . . . many who's names you might not know, but Frank and I do . . . Bobby Rizo, Tony Campa, Alfonso "Poncho" Velasquez, Tony Cerda, Fernando Gil, Armando Davila (Albert's bro) and San Diego's Ernie Grenier.

These kids could all fight! Many became contenders and one a World Champ.


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The second program is from Jan. 1970. Pro-amateur-Jr. amateur bouts.
Frankie Jr. vs. Ruben Castillo
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kikibalt wrote:Carlos Palomino, Armando Muniz took boxing rivalry to higher degree

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Carlos Palomino, left, and Armando Muniz joke around in the ring at the Bell Gardens Boxing Club.
Palomino and Muniz became the first -- and only -- fighters to battle for a world title while being college graduates.

Jerry Crowe
February 16, 2009

As young fighters trying to make their way in a brutal, demanding discipline, Carlos Palomino and Armando Muniz often were given the same advice:

If you're serious about boxing, forget about college. And if you're serious about college, forget about boxing.

Neither paid it any mind.

"It was a dream of mine as a kid to be a boxer," Muniz says, "but I also knew that I was going to go to school."

Palomino stayed in school, he says, "because I figured that even if I got lucky and won a world title, athletic careers are pretty short and I'd still have a whole life ahead of me."

So, even while they continued trading punches, the Southern California-bred fighters never stopped hitting the books.

And when they twice met for the World Boxing Council welterweight championship in the 1970s, they made history: never before had college graduates fought for a world title.

Nor have they since, boxing historians believe.

As longtime boxing writer Bert Sugar notes, "You're not getting your recruits for boxing from the graduating line at Harvard."

That's why, before the first Palomino-Muniz fight, at the Olympic Auditorium on Jan. 21, 1977, Times columnist Jim Murray called the matchup "boxing's finest intellectual hour since George Bernard Shaw wrote to Gene Tunney" and noted with tongue in cheek, "If the fight is close, maybe they can decide it by debate."

Palomino, the champion, had only recently earned a degree in recreation administration from Long Beach State.

Muniz, taking his third title shot, had graduated from Cal State Los Angeles, where he majored in Spanish and minored in math, and was working toward a graduate degree in administration.

Neither, however, was a bookworm.

Their first fight, won dramatically by Palomino when he stopped the challenger late in the 15th round, is considered one of the most memorable bouts of 1977.

After 14 rounds, it was even.

In the 15th, "I went out and just threw everything I had for 2 1/2 minutes," says Palomino, who also won the rematch -- by unanimous decision -- in May 1978. "Finally, he went down."

Muniz wept when the bout was stopped, believing he'd squandered his last title shot, and rues its ending still.

"I was tired, but I was totally aware," he says. "I knew Carlos was on top of me and I knew he was trying to knock me down, but I was waiting for one more punch myself. I knew if I threw one more punch straight at him, he was going to go down."

He never got the chance and less than two years later, after tendinitis in his left arm forced him to quit against Sugar Ray Leonard, Muniz retired with a record of 44-14-1.

Later, after his plan to buy a beer distributorship fell through and he discovered he wasn't cut out for selling real estate or insurance, he used his degree and turned to teaching.

Last June, the former boxer retired after 21 years of teaching Spanish and math at Riverside Rubidoux High.

"I never thought I'd be a teacher," says Muniz, who helps run a youth boxing program in Riverside. "I thought, teachers are paid too little. I'll win the world title and go from there."

Like Palomino, Muniz was born in Mexico. Both are from big families -- Palomino was the third of 11 children, Muniz the second of eight -- and both fought in the Army at Ft. Bragg, N.C., before going to college. Muniz boxed for the U.S. in the 1968 Olympics. Both fighters say their fathers' hard-knock lives as laborers motivated their pursuit of higher education.

Today, both are grandfathers.

Muniz is 62, Palomino 59.

"I don't think going to school affected my fighting at all," says Muniz, echoing his longtime friend and former rival. "All I needed to be a fighter was time in the morning to jog, time in the afternoon to go to the gym and the dedication to take care of myself."

He laughs, noting, "I don't know how in the world I did it."

Says Palomino, "A lot of people had doubts. My manager told me, 'You're not going to be able to do it.' I said, 'Just give me a year to see where we're at.' In a year, I was 8-0 and carrying 18 units a semester. He said, 'OK, you're doing it,' but I didn't have much of a life. I trained and went to school."

Unlike Muniz, Palomino never had to rely on his degree to find work. He successfully defended his title seven times before losing a split decision to Wilfred Benitez in 1979, then launched a career as an actor and pitchman. Including a brief comeback in the late 1990s, he ended his career with a 31-4-3 record.

These days, Palomino owns a credit-card processing company and works with at-risk teens, pushing education.

It's a subject he and Muniz know well.

"I'm proud to say that Carlos and I were in that fight," says Muniz, who supplements his pension income as a bail bondsman. "I think the Latino community took it as, 'Wow, two of our guys are doing this.' I just wish it would have translated into more kids going into college and getting out of gangs."

Who's to say it didn't?

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Thanks for posting that article, Frank. As you know, I've always thought that Muniz is a class act - both as a fighter and as a human being. He's always been my favorite "all-time great to never win a title." I hope someday to meet him and shake his hand. I hope he enjoys his retirement.

Thanks again for the article.
Carlos was one one of my favourite fighters. He came to England, of course, to win the world title. He looked for every inch like he had just stepped off the set of a Spaghetti western.
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Wildhawke11 wrote:Hello to You All
Hope you can forgive this intrusion on your forum but i know some of the guys here know Rocky. Below is a copy of a post done by former ref Alan Sugar on cyberzone.
Danny


I am sure our collective prayers and get well wishes go out to a man amongst men Rocky Alkazoff of the CyberboxingZone family. He is such a good man who has had so many bad things happen to him. I trust and believe with all my heart that Rocky is a stand up guy and honourable man who unfortunately has had a very tough life with many losses. I was in law enforcement a long time and know both sides of the fence and he is one of the strongest and most honourable men it has been my privilege to know.

About 3 weeks ago some cowardly intruder entered his home while he was sleeping and shot him 5 times with a .22. Rocky was awakened by being shot and fought with all his heart against this cowardly sneak attack by a murdering coward. Only his powerful body and iron will enabled him to survive the 5 shots and subsequent operation. The guy that shot him did not even know him, Rocky never saw him before, he just snuck into his home and kept shooting him in the back while he was sleeping. They had to open up his intestine, shoulders etc. He is lucky to be alive after such a cowardly attack. Just horrible.


So clean a trainer and liver is Rocky he even refused pain medication and seeks holistic healing. He actually ran 8 miles on the day of this terrible attack upon his sleeping person and swing a sledgehammer two hours a day. I have NEVER in all my life met a man more into honour and truth than Rocky and I am grief stricken that such a fate has befallen him. I spoke to him tonight and he is recuperating and leaving this totally in the police's hands to bring this attempted murderer to justice.

My prayers go out to him and the worst of it is he cannot exercise now and has a tough road to recovery. No one loves boxing more than Rocky who has lost his fiancee, his brother and went through the worst ordeals in the last year anyone could imagine and still has a good word and respect for all he meets. I hope God looks over him and heals him for another chance at a healthy and productive life and with all my prayers I wish him the best.

My thoughts & prayers are with Rocky Alkazoff. He's a helluva man and a great writer. His story on Curtis "Hatchet Man" Sheppard is one of the best boxing stories I've ever read. Best wishes for his health & recovery. And my best to you, Danny.

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Fit for Life!

Something else these two Los Angeles legends have in common is top physical conditioning, even today. Both Carlos & Mando could likely go ten rounds without too much effort. Neither carries an ounce of unnecessary fat on their body.

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Boxing memorabilia above and below courtesy of Rick Farris
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Wildhawke11 wrote:Hello to You All
Hope you can forgive this intrusion on your forum but i know some of the guys here know Rocky. Below is a copy of a post done by former ref Alan Sugar on cyberzone.
Danny


I am sure our collective prayers and get well wishes go out to a man amongst men Rocky Alkazoff of the CyberboxingZone family. He is such a good man who has had so many bad things happen to him. I trust and believe with all my heart that Rocky is a stand up guy and honourable man who unfortunately has had a very tough life with many losses. I was in law enforcement a long time and know both sides of the fence and he is one of the strongest and most honourable men it has been my privilege to know.

About 3 weeks ago some cowardly intruder entered his home while he was sleeping and shot him 5 times with a .22. Rocky was awakened by being shot and fought with all his heart against this cowardly sneak attack by a murdering coward. Only his powerful body and iron will enabled him to survive the 5 shots and subsequent operation. The guy that shot him did not even know him, Rocky never saw him before, he just snuck into his home and kept shooting him in the back while he was sleeping. They had to open up his intestine, shoulders etc. He is lucky to be alive after such a cowardly attack. Just horrible.


So clean a trainer and liver is Rocky he even refused pain medication and seeks holistic healing. He actually ran 8 miles on the day of this terrible attack upon his sleeping person and swing a sledgehammer two hours a day. I have NEVER in all my life met a man more into honour and truth than Rocky and I am grief stricken that such a fate has befallen him. I spoke to him tonight and he is recuperating and leaving this totally in the police's hands to bring this attempted murderer to justice.

My prayers go out to him and the worst of it is he cannot exercise now and has a tough road to recovery. No one loves boxing more than Rocky who has lost his fiancee, his brother and went through the worst ordeals in the last year anyone could imagine and still has a good word and respect for all he meets. I hope God looks over him and heals him for another chance at a healthy and productive life and with all my prayers I wish him the best.
Danny, you are never intruding. You are always welcome at this board. That is an incredible and tragic event that occurred in Rocky's life and I'm sure he has all our prayers working for him. Never be a stranger around here, Danny, the guys at this board are the absolute best. Good hearing from you again.

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Rick, this is absolute classic. Cherish these pics.

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El Gato wrote:Scar,

What I can tell you about Diablito Campos is that he was a very ackward fighter. Like you said he had been around since 1951 and I fought him in May of 1962. He was about 29 years old and knew what he was doing. I didn't know what kind of boxing record he had and to this day I still don't know. The fight took place in Mazatlan and was a sold out crowd. He had a big following there. People came to see how a 16 year old undefeated fighter would do against this much older big name fighter. From the very first round I had trouble with him. I had to figure out a different style of fighting and fast. He was wild. I didn't know if he was going to hit me with his elbow or his knee. He was probably the most unorthodox fighter I ever fought in my boxing career. It took me nine rounds to stop him when I got him in the corner and put him down. The referee stopped the fight. The promoter was so amazed that I beat Campos that he took my manager and me to dinner after the show at about mid-night. My pay for that fight was about $20 American money.

El Gato
Rodolfo, a portion of Diablito Campos' career only recently came to light. Boxrec used to have his record as 0-0 going into the fight with you. However, during some recent research I discovered his name was actually Agustin "Diablito" Campos and notified Matt Tegan at Boxrec who found quite a few of his fights dating back to '53 I believe. Matt told me that Mexican records are extremely difficult because tons of fights are never submitted and the fact that Mexican fighters will fight solely by their nickname (as in the case of Diablito), which makes it doubly hard to track. God only knows how many fights he actually had before fighting you.

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JOSE LUIS GARCIA
By Jim Amato

There may have never been a more talent rich period in the heavyweight division then from 1968 to 1978. With Muhammad Ali (a.k.a. Cassius Clay) on the sidelines due to his draft case, other big men emerged. They would compete with each other on an almost equal basis for the next decade. Joe Frazier had risen to the top of the heap but the level below him would remain as mainstays in the ratings for years to come. Jimmy Ellis, Jerry Quarry, Oscar Bonevena, Floyd Patterson, George Chuvalo and Henry Cooper would eventually give way to Ron Lyle, Joe Bugner, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers and Jimmy Young. All time great champions like George Foreman and Larry Holmes also made their mark and Ali re-emerged to reclaim his throne.

Lost among the giants of that time period was a fine heavyweight from Venezuela named Jose Luis Garcia. Although Jose never challenged for the world championship he did meet three who did. He also met three world champions in a career that never seemed to reach its full potential.

Jose turned pro in his native country in 1968. He would go undefeated in his first nine bouts before losing a decision to future light-heavyweight champion Vincente Rondon. Three fights later Jose was halted by though Allen Thomas in his first U.S. appearance. The lean Garcia was beginning to grow into a full-fledged heavyweight. On July 2, 1970 Garcia scored the biggest victory of his career. In Los Angeles as a heavy underdog, Jose met unbeaten and upcoming future champion Ken Norton. Garcia’s superior hand speed and deceptive power sent Norton crashing in round eight.

The huge upset of Norton landed Garcia smack in the middle of the heavyweight picture. Four months later Garcia halted used up ex-contender Thad Spencer. By now Garcia was going substantial weight. He was, by today’s standards, a cruiserweight when he beat Norton. Now he was ballooning to over 200 plus pounds. In 1971 he moved up in the ratings with wins over veterans Charlie Polite, James J. Woody, John Griffin and Alberto Lovell. Jose opened 1973 with victories over Roby Harris, Florida Al Jones and Johnny Hudgins.

It all came crashing down on October 23rd, 1972 when ex-WBA champion Earnie Terrell came to Caracas. Earnie had been written off after late 60’s losses to Thad Spencer and Manuel Ramos. Against Garcia though he looked the part of a rejuvenated former champ as he pounded Garcia into submission in the sixth round. In Jose’s comeback bout seven months later Joe Alexander destroyed him in one round. Next came a crushing kayo loss to Ron Lyle. Jose put together four wins but then lost a decision to Jimmy Young. In his next bout Joe Bugner stopped him in two. Finally on August 14, 1975, Jose got a rematch with Ken Norton. At this time Norton was the top heavyweight contender. They met in St. Paul; MN and this time Kenny took all Garcia could throw at him and eventually wore Jose down in the fifth round of a tough fight. Even in defeat Garcia proved he was still world class.
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kikibalt wrote:A piece of noir

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My mom, Eulalia Adame-Baltazar, circa-1950
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Classic Noir, FranK. God Bless that beautiful woman!!

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