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Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 13:43
by Bomber 1
After reading through this it'll be good to see how Darren does against this guy, Boxing is all about opportunities and taking them!! This is not down to Darren for the making of this fight and NO ONE can knock him for taking it either!! Fine if people are not happy about who he is fighting BUT that simply is not down to him, I personally feel Darren has not yet had the break he deserves!! This is his chance and I would pesonally really like to see him do it!! Good Luck to the lad!! Also Andy Lee did beat him in the am's and Im pretty sure it was at the worlds and the olympic place was on the line but I could be wrong??
I'll also say this though, Am boxing and Pro boxing are 2 totally different games!! One is a game of tick at times while the other is the most brutal sport you can wish to see at times..

Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:24
by potnoodle
Looking forward to the fight, should be good. The guy will come out and try and ruff Barker up, but we will see how good Barker is. I think Barkers skills and accuracy will prove to much and stop him late on.
Now lets stop bickering about who will beat who, im sure and hope these's fights happen? And imo Barker will beat the likes of Macklin Moore and adam lees is it? I think Barker deserves this chance who ever its against. AND IM SURE HE'LL GO ON TO BE A WORLD CHAMPION?!?!? But we'll see.

Re: Darren Barker Set To Fight for European Title
Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 17:33
by ernie25
The_Don1 wrote:gwan barker, grab the chance to be a triple champ...he would school lee no doubt about if the two ever boxed.
lee beat barker in d amatuers

fact
Re: Darren Barker Set To Fight for European Title
Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 18:55
by collydagenham
ernie25 wrote:The_Don1 wrote:gwan barker, grab the chance to be a triple champ...he would school lee no doubt about if the two ever boxed.
lee beat barker in d amatuers

fact
Lets see how Barker gets on with belgecham, who had lee holding on for his life.
Re: Darren Barker Set To Fight for European Title
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 08:25
by Asterix
ernie25 wrote:The_Don1 wrote:gwan barker, grab the chance to be a triple champ...he would school lee no doubt about if the two ever boxed.
lee beat barker in d amatuers

fact
That doesn't mean much in the pro game. Look at Cotto and Muhammad Abdullaev.
Re: Darren Barker Set To Fight for European Title
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 08:33
by slapbangwhallop
Asterix wrote:ernie25 wrote:The_Don1 wrote:gwan barker, grab the chance to be a triple champ...he would school lee no doubt about if the two ever boxed.
lee beat barker in d amatuers

fact
That doesn't mean much in the pro game. Look at Cotto and Muhammad Abdullaev.
Would you suggestion that it is ignored then and provides absolutely no indication on how a fight in the pro ranks would go? Also I think it would be interesting to see what % of fighters make a reversal amatuer losses.
Re: Darren Barker Set To Fight for European Title
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 08:35
by Asterix
slapbangwhallop wrote:Asterix wrote:
That doesn't mean much in the pro game. Look at Cotto and Muhammad Abdullaev.
Would you suggestion that it is ignored then and provides absolutely no indication on how a fight in the pro ranks would go? Also I think it would be interesting to see what % of fighters make a reversal amatuer losses.
Obviously not. That's why I said it doesn't mean "much".
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 12:28
by steve689
Lee was holding on for dear life against Belghecham but to be fair he had dominated to that point. But why on earth was the Frenchman so passive until the end?
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 15:03
by potnoodle
Did anyone here Barker on Bunceys show? Looking forward to Barker winning next week!!!
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 13:26
by slapbangwhallop
steve689 wrote:Lee was holding on for dear life against Belghecham but to be fair he had dominated to that point. But why on earth was the Frenchman so passive until the end?
Ste, I think you are over exaggerating the trouble that Lee was in when Belghecham caught Lee with five minutes to go. People criticised Lee for not tying Vera up in their fight and then when he ties Belghecham up with 5 seconds to go he is accused of "holding on for dear life". I think that Lee's reaction immediately after the bell shows the we wasnt in any real trouble!
From Andy Lee via Johnny Stapleton "I heard Darren Barker is fighting Belghecham for the European title, I think it's a bit of a joke, the guy that I just beat gets to fight for a vacant title. I think Barker will win by an easy points decision. Hopefully I can fight the winner but I'm not sure if Barker would fight me."
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:59
by MrBoxingUK2
slapbangwhallop wrote:steve689 wrote:Lee was holding on for dear life against Belghecham but to be fair he had dominated to that point. But why on earth was the Frenchman so passive until the end?
Ste, I think you are over exaggerating the trouble that Lee was in when Belghecham caught Lee with five minutes to go. People criticised Lee for not tying Vera up in their fight and then when he ties Belghecham up with 5 seconds to go he is accused of "holding on for dear life". I think that Lee's reaction immediately after the bell shows the we wasnt in any real trouble!
From Andy Lee via Johnny Stapleton "I heard Darren Barker is fighting Belghecham for the European title, I think it's a bit of a joke, the guy that I just beat gets to fight for a vacant title. I think Barker will win by an easy points decision. Hopefully I can fight the winner but I'm not sure if Barker would fight me."
what you have to understand slapbang is that barker didnt' pick belgecham. and im sure we would all like to see barker vs lee but that isn't how things work..lee is ranked 9th by the ebu and belgencham 11th, neither should be fighting for the title, why would barker be scared of lee when he wants a fight with macklin who is three times better then lee? that last left hook by belgencham had lee in big trouble
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 16:08
by slapbangwhallop
MrBoxingUK2 wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:steve689 wrote:Lee was holding on for dear life against Belghecham but to be fair he had dominated to that point. But why on earth was the Frenchman so passive until the end?
Ste, I think you are over exaggerating the trouble that Lee was in when Belghecham caught Lee with five minutes to go. People criticised Lee for not tying Vera up in their fight and then when he ties Belghecham up with 5 seconds to go he is accused of "holding on for dear life". I think that Lee's reaction immediately after the bell shows the we wasnt in any real trouble!
From Andy Lee via Johnny Stapleton "I heard Darren Barker is fighting Belghecham for the European title, I think it's a bit of a joke, the guy that I just beat gets to fight for a vacant title. I think Barker will win by an easy points decision. Hopefully I can fight the winner but I'm not sure if Barker would fight me."
what you have to understand slapbang is that barker didnt' pick belgecham. and im sure we would all like to see barker vs lee but that isn't how things work..lee is ranked 9th by the ebu and belgencham 11th, neither should be fighting for the title, why would barker be scared of lee when he wants a fight with macklin who is three times better then lee? that last left hook by belgencham had lee in big trouble
"three times better" - jesus you sound like a 12 year old!
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 06 Apr 2010, 04:29
by MrBoxingUK2
slapbangwhallop wrote:MrBoxingUK2 wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:
Ste, I think you are over exaggerating the trouble that Lee was in when Belghecham caught Lee with five minutes to go. People criticised Lee for not tying Vera up in their fight and then when he ties Belghecham up with 5 seconds to go he is accused of "holding on for dear life". I think that Lee's reaction immediately after the bell shows the we wasnt in any real trouble!
From Andy Lee via Johnny Stapleton "I heard Darren Barker is fighting Belghecham for the European title, I think it's a bit of a joke, the guy that I just beat gets to fight for a vacant title. I think Barker will win by an easy points decision. Hopefully I can fight the winner but I'm not sure if Barker would fight me."
what you have to understand slapbang is that barker didnt' pick belgecham. and im sure we would all like to see barker vs lee but that isn't how things work..lee is ranked 9th by the ebu and belgencham 11th, neither should be fighting for the title, why would barker be scared of lee when he wants a fight with macklin who is three times better then lee? that last left hook by belgencham had lee in big trouble
"three times better" - jesus you sound like a 12 year old!

how do you work that 1 out? why do you get so emotional when talking about andy lee? matthew macklin IS 3 times better then andy lee

Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 07 Apr 2010, 15:44
by potnoodle
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 15:08
by Autobarn
it actually seems a great opportunity (european title) for little risk (more andy lee leftovers). a guy like belgecham isn't going to be in a position to twat about, fake injury, or pull out at the last minute in pursuit of a world title elim (like the usual EBU challengers/champs do).
it's a shame barker can't land the big domestic or euro opponent. it's a shame lee, duddy and a few others aren't a bit more willing, IMO.
it looks like barker will win and end up defending vs some real hard nut, in a high risk bout (proska).
Re: Darren Barker European Title (merged)?
Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 18:20
by slapbangwhallop
Autobarn wrote:it actually seems a great opportunity (european title) for little risk (more andy lee leftovers). a guy like belgecham isn't going to be in a position to twat about, fake injury, or pull out at the last minute in pursuit of a world title elim (like the usual EBU challengers/champs do).
it's a shame barker can't land the big domestic or euro opponent. it's a shame lee, duddy and a few others aren't a bit more willing, IMO.
it looks like barker will win and end up defending vs some real hard nut, in a high risk bout (proska).
Eh, how do you figure that one out? Lee said he wants the fight and would take the fight or fight the winner.
Duddy wouldnt be interested in fighting the likes of Barker as the reward wouldnt match the risk.