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robpalmer135 wrote:Braehmer vs Cleverly (WBO LHW)
Brook vs Jones (WBO WW)
Macklin vs Barker (EURO/BRIT MW)
Chisora vs Fury (BRIT/COMM HW)
DeGale vs Anderson (Vac Brit SMW)
Mitchell vs Wright (IBF int LW)
Gavin vs Woodhouse (Vac COMM LWW)

This would be a serious card. 4 London fights in big fights. 2 world title fights. Would top the Mag 7

DeGale is boxing Paul Smith on 11/12/2010

Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I hope we find out the other fighters opponents sometime soon!

McIntosh has said he is training for Bellew.

robpalmer135 wrote:

Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I hope we find out the other fighters opponents sometime soon!

McIntosh has said he is training for Bellew.

Where have you heard this? it would be the best possible fight for bomber and a very good chance to show he is next to step up after Cleverly.

robpalmer135 wrote:

Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I hope we find out the other fighters opponents sometime soon!

McIntosh has said he is training for Bellew.

Bellew said in BN that McIntosh turned the fight down after talking trash.

Neri wrote:

robpalmer135 wrote:

Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I hope we find out the other fighters opponents sometime soon!

McIntosh has said he is training for Bellew.

Bellew said in BN that McIntosh turned the fight down after talking trash.

yeh its true mcintosh is a bad 5hit house, he has said he wants to fight bellew in bn but when he got officially offered the fight he turned it down! he said he doesnt think the money was right even tho it would be in his top 2 biggest pay days plus the chance to win belts, fight infront of 10,000+ and be live on t.v.

bellew openly said he is willing to have a winner takes all, but then mcintosh said he has other options,

grow a set mcintosh! if you dont want to fight bellew thats fine, but to trash talk him then get offered the fight and turn it down, well thats embarrassing

righthook wrote:

Neri wrote:

robpalmer135 wrote: McIntosh has said he is training for Bellew.

Bellew said in BN that McIntosh turned the fight down after talking trash.

yeh its true mcintosh is a bad 5hit house, he has said he wants to fight bellew in bn but when he got officially offered the fight he turned it down! he said he doesnt think the money was right even tho it would be in his top 2 biggest pay days plus the chance to win belts, fight infront of 10,000+ and be live on t.v.

bellew openly said he is willing to have a winner takes all, but then mcintosh said he has other options,

grow a set mcintosh! if you dont want to fight bellew thats fine, but to trash talk him then get offered the fight and turn it down, well thats embarrassing

Well said rigthhook. Too much trash talking going on now without any action. Smigga took the fight against Degale even though he had many other options. Its a fight the fans would want to see and would make for an amazing atmosphere in Liverpool as well.

Come on Mac sign up will ya.

stevek3lly wrote:

righthook wrote:

Neri wrote: Bellew said in BN that McIntosh turned the fight down after talking trash.

yeh its true mcintosh is a bad 5hit house, he has said he wants to fight bellew in bn but when he got officially offered the fight he turned it down! he said he doesnt think the money was right even tho it would be in his top 2 biggest pay days plus the chance to win belts, fight infront of 10,000+ and be live on t.v.

bellew openly said he is willing to have a winner takes all, but then mcintosh said he has other options,

grow a set mcintosh! if you dont want to fight bellew thats fine, but to trash talk him then get offered the fight and turn it down, well thats embarrassing

Well said rigthhook. Too much trash talking going on now without any action. Smigga took the fight against Degale even though he had many other options. Its a fight the fans would want to see and would make for an amazing atmosphere in Liverpool as well.

Come on Mac sign up will ya.

First off we have no clue what the offer is. It may not be that high and it may have options.

Secondly the fight will go to purse bids soon enough. So McIntosh will get 40% of the purse guaranteed, and he may not have to fight in Bellews back yard.

Crediting Smith for taking a fight against someone with 8 fights.....in his home town....and its his highest payday. I give him credit for taking it, but you would need to give McIntosh far more for fighting Bellew in Liverpool.

righthook wrote:he said he doesnt think the money was right even tho it would be in his top 2 biggest pay days plus the chance to win belts, fight infront of 10,000+ and be live on t.v.

How much has he been offered and were there options?

Would both the British and Commonwealth titles be on the line?

righthook wrote:bellew openly said he is willing to have a winner takes all, but then mcintosh said he has other options,

Is winner takes all even allowed?

I hate when boxers say 'winner takes all!' to possible opponents. The only reason why they say it is cause they know the opponent won't agree to it, and rightly so.

robpalmer135 wrote:

stevek3lly wrote:

righthook wrote: yeh its true mcintosh is a bad 5hit house, he has said he wants to fight bellew in bn but when he got officially offered the fight he turned it down! he said he doesnt think the money was right even tho it would be in his top 2 biggest pay days plus the chance to win belts, fight infront of 10,000+ and be live on t.v.

bellew openly said he is willing to have a winner takes all, but then mcintosh said he has other options,

grow a set mcintosh! if you dont want to fight bellew thats fine, but to trash talk him then get offered the fight and turn it down, well thats embarrassing

Well said rigthhook. Too much trash talking going on now without any action. Smigga took the fight against Degale even though he had many other options. Its a fight the fans would want to see and would make for an amazing atmosphere in Liverpool as well.

Come on Mac sign up will ya.

First off we have no clue what the offer is. It may not be that high and it may have options.

Secondly the fight will go to purse bids soon enough. So McIntosh will get 40% of the purse guaranteed, and he may not have to fight in Bellews back yard.

Crediting Smith for taking a fight against someone with 8 fights.....in his home town....and its his highest payday. I give him credit for taking it, but you would need to give McIntosh far more for fighting Bellew in Liverpool.

first off mate you mightnt know what was offered. doesnt mean others dont. i assure you that danny got offered a very good pay day. danny has actually said and i quote "why should i take less than bellew" hahahahaha

what bellew gets paid by his own promoter has nothing to do with mcintosh. if he wants to be paid big money then maybe he should get a better promoter or maybe win a fight with bellew then he will be in a better position to bargain.

second, if it does go to purse bids then fair enough but my point is why say you want to fight bellew then when you get offered the fight you turn it down. dont call some1 out and make out like you want to fight him bad then hold out for a purse bid. there is no gaurantee it will go to a purse bid and bellew might fight another person.

i have no problem with fighters wanting to be well paid, but lets be real here danny mcintosh would have gotten a good payday, tv exposure, a sell out crowed, and more important than that the chance to win a belt or two. my guess is his next fight he will get less then half of what he has been offered against bellew plus no belt on the line and infront of a few houndred people and no live t.v but thats just my oppinion.

antcull wrote:I hate when boxers say 'winner takes all!' to possible opponents. The only reason why they say it is cause they know the opponent won't agree to it, and rightly so.

Il tell you wot,if all boxing fights were winner take all,it would make it alot more exciting....

to horse.

a winner takes all would not be allowed but you can get things put in contracts where if the fighter win e.g. mcintosh they get a big bonus, also you could have both promoters have a bet with each other who would win

i know for an absolute fact bellew realy wants this fight, and i also know that danny mcintosh is looking for excuses.

the second mcintosh trash talked bellew in bn bellew said straight away make the fight, he didnt start saying well lets go to purse bids and see what happens. its a shame danny mcintosh didnt back up what he said

righthook wrote:to horse.

a winner takes all would not be allowed but you can get things put in contracts where if the fighter win e.g. mcintosh they get a big bonus, also you could have both promoters have a bet with each other who would win

i know for an absolute fact bellew realy wants this fight, and i also know that danny mcintosh is looking for excuses.

the second mcintosh trash talked bellew in bn bellew said straight away make the fight, he didnt start saying well lets go to purse bids and see what happens. its a shame danny mcintosh didnt back up what he said

Would Bellew get paid more if it went to purse bids?

If McIntosh thinks he can get more if it goes to purse bids then can anyone really hold it against him if he wants to wait for that?

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

antcull wrote:I hate when boxers say 'winner takes all!' to possible opponents. The only reason why they say it is cause they know the opponent won't agree to it, and rightly so.

Il tell you wot,if all boxing fights were winner take all,it would make it alot more exciting....

Maybe, but the sport of boxing wouldn't as that wouldn't be that many fighters! How long would you carry on if you weren't getting any paydays? Even if a boxer lost 1 fight could he support his family, pay his trainer etc.?

Sure the millionaire boxers would be alright.....99% of the other fighters wouldn't.

Boxers need to be paid, win or lose

looking poor isn't it.

apart from smith-degale.

why can't brook and jennings have a rematch.

unsatisfactory ending first time round.

do it again.

i understand the issues with cleverly.

so don't begrudge a slightly average one if it gives cleverly the interim title.

is ryan rhodes getting the the guy that beat matt hall?

Horse wrote:

righthook wrote:to horse.

a winner takes all would not be allowed but you can get things put in contracts where if the fighter win e.g. mcintosh they get a big bonus, also you could have both promoters have a bet with each other who would win

i know for an absolute fact bellew realy wants this fight, and i also know that danny mcintosh is looking for excuses.

the second mcintosh trash talked bellew in bn bellew said straight away make the fight, he didnt start saying well lets go to purse bids and see what happens. its a shame danny mcintosh didnt back up what he said

Would Bellew get paid more if it went to purse bids?

If McIntosh thinks he can get more if it goes to purse bids then can anyone really hold it against him if he wants to wait for that?

it would depend on how much the purse bid went for mate.

i wouldnt hold anything against danny mc for trying to get more money from a purse bid but there is absolute no gaurantee it will happen, bellew could fight some1 else,

i think its a bit of a joke to be honest why call him out in the first place??? all that trash talk and no action to back his words up. its not like danny would have been fighting for buttons he would have been well paid and had a belt or two up for gvrabs not to mention live tv, he has had something like 2 fights in 2 years you would think he would jump at the shot instead of waiting round for many more months on the chance the fight goes to a purse bid

ourkid1984 wrote:I suppose after the Mag 7 bill it's hard to follow it up with a better show and the Cleverly situation is a bit out of Franks control because of the numerous issues with Braemaer and the WBO.

I can imagine the Degale fight being blown out of all propotion and being billed as the big fight of the evening now. It's obvious that there will be more fights announced and I can see at least 1 more meaningful title fight on there. Sosnowski would be good and maybe there will be the return of Kevin Mitchell and feature Paul Appleby, Stephen Smith and what's happened to Billy Joe Saunders?

What about Sexton having another crack at a heavyweight title if Chisora vacates?

yeah i give warren a free pass on the braehmer fight.

not to be this time round sadly.

kevin mitchell vs alex arthur would be nice. :)

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

ourkid1984 wrote:I suppose after the Mag 7 bill it's hard to follow it up with a better show and the Cleverly situation is a bit out of Franks control because of the numerous issues with Braemaer and the WBO.

I can imagine the Degale fight being blown out of all propotion and being billed as the big fight of the evening now. It's obvious that there will be more fights announced and I can see at least 1 more meaningful title fight on there. Sosnowski would be good and maybe there will be the return of Kevin Mitchell and feature Paul Appleby, Stephen Smith and what's happened to Billy Joe Saunders?

What about Sexton having another crack at a heavyweight title if Chisora vacates?

yeah i give warren a free pass on the braehmer fight.

not to be this time round sadly.

kevin mitchell vs alex arthur would be nice. :)

yeh i understand the cleverly fight, but i was really excited when fw first mentioned a show that was going to be bigger than the mag7 but up to know it hasnt really lived up to the hype. not to say it wont but up2 now im not over impressed, if bellew v mcintosh would have been on the bill that would have really helped the bill but hopefully a few big fights get announced

I think Frank needs to pull some thing out of the bag, especially as not much thought has gone into Cleverly's and Macklins opponents. Both come from Tundra promotions based in Spain. So their not even hand picked. I believe Kevin Mitchell's opponent before Katsidis come from the same company as well so Frank obviously has some kind of deal with them.

When is the rest of the bill being announced?

stevek3lly wrote:When is the rest of the bill being announced?

good question mate!

tickets are on sale but there are only a few opponents we know about.

i hope they hurry up and let people know whose fighting, cant see why its took this long to come up with opponents when they have known about this show for weeks and weeks

hitman_hatton1 wrote:looking poor isn't it.

apart from smith-degale.

why can't brook and jennings have a rematch.

unsatisfactory ending first time round.

do it again.

i understand the issues with cleverly.

so don't begrudge a slightly average one if it gives cleverly the interim title.

is ryan rhodes getting the the guy that beat matt hall?

brook and jennings was horrible. not thanks regarding a rematch.

righthook wrote:

robpalmer135 wrote:first off mate you mightnt know what was offered. doesnt mean others dont. i assure you that danny got offered a very good pay day. danny has actually said and i quote "why should i take less than bellew" hahahahaha

what bellew gets paid by his own promoter has nothing to do with mcintosh. if he wants to be paid big money then maybe he should get a better promoter or maybe win a fight with bellew then he will be in a better position to bargain.

second, if it does go to purse bids then fair enough but my point is why say you want to fight bellew then when you get offered the fight you turn it down. dont call some1 out and make out like you want to fight him bad then hold out for a purse bid. there is no gaurantee it will go to a purse bid and bellew might fight another person.

i have no problem with fighters wanting to be well paid, but lets be real here danny mcintosh would have gotten a good payday, tv exposure, a sell out crowed, and more important than that the chance to win a belt or two. my guess is his next fight he will get less then half of what he has been offered against bellew plus no belt on the line and infront of a few houndred people and no live t.v but thats just my oppinion.

well what was he offered then, I am all ears. McIntosh should be getting 50% He is going to Bellew's back yard, he is mandatory for the British title. Is Bellew that much of a bigger name, I don't really think so. Is Bellew that much of a bigger ticket seller???

whats your thought on David Haye and George Groves???

Autobarn wrote:brook and jennings was horrible. not thanks regarding a rematch.

It didn't set the world alight but it was quite poised at the time it was stopped. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch.

oliverfennell wrote:

Autobarn wrote:brook and jennings was horrible. not thanks regarding a rematch.

It didn't set the world alight but it was quite poised at the time it was stopped. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch.

I agree, I'm really suprised at the fact that the rematch wasn't made straight away - Jennings was well in the fight- in fact he was just getting going I thought and had caught Brook out a couple of times with neat counters.