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500BHP wrote:No Surgeon ever shown or quoted = rubbish.

Of course, silly me. Every time someone famous has surgery, the doctor comes out and talks about it.

You really are a complete clown.

Just in case you don't know this, there is a thing that governs most countries called patient confidentiality.

500BHP wrote:Patient what? That is for people who to keep things quiet. Haye has had photos and the World.
Haye has no credibility and neither do you by you other posts.

Confidentiality, is that too big a word for you?

So you think Haye signed for the Fury fight, then cut himself, then called the fight off. Then signed to fight again, then faked having surgery, to get out of the fight again?

500BHP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

500BHP wrote:Patient what? That is for people who to keep things quiet. Haye has had photos and the World.
Haye has no credibility and neither do you by you other posts.

Confidentiality, is that too big a word for you?

So you think Haye signed for the Fury fight, then cut himself, then called the fight off. Then signed to fight again, then faked having surgery, to get out of the fight again?

Cretin, I understand the word, but it has no relevance regarding HAYE.
Toodle pip!

It's been emotional.

500BHP wrote:You are an angry bitter cretin by the sounds of it.

No, just a normal person. Come on, do you think Haye signed for the Fury fight, then cut himself, then called the fight off. Then signed to fight again, then faked having surgery, to get out of the fight again?

Another nail in the coffin carrying the corpse of the once entertaining Boxrec forum.

earsjohn wrote:Another nail in the coffin carrying the corpse of the once entertaining Boxrec forum.

Yep.

500BHP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

earsjohn wrote:Another nail in the coffin carrying the corpse of the once entertaining Boxrec forum.

Yep.

Well stop asking the same questions.

I asked it twice and still didn't get a straight answer, so I'll ask it a different way. If Haye (a guy that's fought the #1 fighter in the world at cruiser and heavy) wanted out of the fight, why didn't he just 'fake' shoulder surgery the first time?

So you think Haye signed for the Fury fight, then cut himself, then called the fight off. Then signed to fight again, then faked having surgery, to get out of the fight again?[/quote]

The gentleman makes a fair point

500BHP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
I asked it twice and still didn't get a straight answer, so I'll ask it a different way. If Haye (a guy that's fought the #1 fighter in the world at cruiser and heavy) wanted out of the fight, why didn't he just 'fake' shoulder surgery the first time?

You asked me twice.

That's because I'm fascinated to know what you think.

Some of the posts on this and other threads are sad, pathetic and at times libellous.

I have had many a ruck over the years with posters on here who rarely agree with me, thats why I came back because its those posters who I thoroughly enjoyed the boxing debate with - however the majority of those posters no longer post on here and I have got to say I miss them a lot. The majority of those posters wrote well thought out posts which had me on many occasions thinking how the f*ck am I going to answer that one

I phone some of those posters even now and have a laugh about whats being written - we have even planned the next topic/ruck with a couple of the more mischevious posters, and have to say boxrec in the past has been bloody brilliant even when on the majority of times I have been on the wrong end of some banter.

I really cannot be arsed now - I just want to see those "old school" posters back - even on a thread like this it would be great to have a reasonable/rational debate but unfortunately it isnt going to happen ...

When the regulars come back ... if they ever do ... so will I .. until then I will leave the level of boxing debate on here worse than what you find in a primary school playground.

You're wearing rose tinted glasses today spud.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

500BHP wrote:Patient what? That is for people who to keep things quiet. Haye has had photos and the World.
Haye has no credibility and neither do you by you other posts.

Confidentiality, is that too big a word for you?

So you think Haye signed for the Fury fight, then cut himself, then called the fight off. Then signed to fight again, then faked having surgery, to get out of the fight again?

No no no keith, he never faked surgery... He faked an injury so he could have major surgery hahaha

No no no; he put a photo on twitter and went to Germany where he had major surgery on a career ending injury and then 4 weeks after is looking forward to boxing again; (after Vitali retires).

Fury has been messed about no end; Haye has used injuries to pull out of fights and manouver major and lucrative bouts before; he can be trusted if you choose to trust him - all this is a justification of why one person chooses to trust an unreliable man and someone else chooses not to give him the benefit of the doubt.

palooka wrote:No no no; he put a photo on twitter and went to Germany where he had major surgery on a career ending injury and then 4 weeks after is looking forward to boxing again; (after Vitali retires).

Fury has been messed about no end; Haye has used injuries to pull out of fights and manouver major and lucrative bouts before; he can be trusted if you choose to trust him - all this is a justification of why one person chooses to trust an unreliable man and someone else chooses not to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He was injured mate, it happens.

Well, the Fury's were right when they said Haye would be back inside of a year. In fact, he came back in less than three months after a 'career ending' injury. While being a fan of both Fury and Haye, its the fans that ultimately lose. Haye is playing the politics card, throwing his weight around, hoping that he will get a shot at the WBC vacant title winner of Arreola/Stiverne II (a fight that no one wants to see), or go after the winner of the WBA 'super' title winner of Wilder/Oquendo (if that be true).

What I don't understand, even though I am a big fan of Fury too, is why Haye decided not to fulfill his promise or obligation to the Fury's. The fight with Tyson was going to be Tyson's biggest test to date, and there were no garuntees that Tyson had a solid shot of winning it, and it would have been easily one of the biggest domestic non-title fights in the history of Britain. Haye could have won the fight; Tyson made a single mistake and would of been in deep shit.

Haye, imho, has wasted his credability in the division. First, all the bad mouthing of Klitschko and how he would beat him. Instead he ran away the whole time and claimed a broken toe. Second, he retires, only to come back again. He signs on to face Fury, and with a week to go allows himself to get cut in sparring. An alternate date is made, and with a few weeks left to go claims a career ending shoulder injury and retires. Three months later.... he's back in the gym and saying he wants the title.

This guy is a complete joke. I regret ever having been a fan.

HomicideHenry wrote:Well, the Fury's were right when they said Haye would be back inside of a year. In fact, he came back in less than three months after a 'career ending' injury.

What makes you think Haye is 'back'?

I dont understand how anyone can be a fan of Haye now - im not going to get involved with the fake/not fake debate regarding the so called career ending injury, but hes pulled out of too many fights for my liking. Hope he retires and drowns in the endless stream of fanny he no doubts gets cos any true old skool boxing fan like me has lost all respect for him - a shame cos when he was a cruiser he was one of my fave fighters