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Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 19 May 2015, 16:45
by KBB
Impractical Poster wrote:
Yep, isn't that how it goes around here? Go and look at my history and show me where I've started to insult anyone who didn't say something derogatory to me first.
The difference between me and them is that when I win (if that's what you want to call it) they go running to their daddy (Moderator) and then I get banned and never get told why I was banned but just that it's clear my comeback was way more insulting and that's the truth about what happens here on this forum.
I've been banned multiple times for nothing no different than anyone else here has said, I've often been banned for doing the exact same thing as others when it comes to posting pics that the ModerHATERS claimed was obscene when I did it but not when others used similar pics.
I know I'm addressing the wrong person on this but it is not aimed at you specifically, this is meant to be a general reply.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 May 2015, 10:32
by PsychoGamerTwo
fergusg wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Ward neutralising slow brawlers like Abraham or Froch is 1 thing, but against the pedigree & skill of Golovkin is another.
Golovkin KO 4, easy work.
This is actually a very interesting comment!
Has Gennady Golovkin ever defeated an opponent with the pedigree of Arthur Abraham and Carl Froch?
Golovkin knocking out good/unknown middleweights or superwelterweights is 1 thing, but against the pedigree & skill of a supermiddleweight, named Ward is another aswell.
Golovkin went 11 rounds with Murray. Watch Abraham/Pavlik at 168, after they destroyed everything at 160. Ward is going to hit him clean, and often. Going 12 rounds & winning a UD. Little doubt about it. Thats if Ward is still the same, but we'll see soon.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 May 2015, 10:38
by ikorolev
Comparing Golovkin to primitives like Abraham or Pavlik is ridiculous.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 May 2015, 15:33
by Butterbean
KBB wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:
Yep, isn't that how it goes around here? Go and look at my history and show me where I've started to insult anyone who didn't say something derogatory to me first.
The difference between me and them is that when I win (if that's what you want to call it) they go running to their daddy (Moderator) and then I get banned and never get told why I was banned but just that it's clear my comeback was way more insulting and that's the truth about what happens here on this forum.
I've been banned multiple times for nothing no different than anyone else here has said, I've often been banned for doing the exact same thing as others when it comes to posting pics that the ModerHATERS claimed was obscene when I did it but not when others used similar pics.
I know I'm addressing the wrong person on this but it is not aimed at you specifically, this is meant to be a general reply.
Didnt tanzio put you in your place yesterday ? Everyone is after you, and they started it, and moderators are on your back, and you are banned for nothing. Actually the whole world is picking on you and you just dont understand why ?
I hate to brake this to you, but you are screwed. At your age even intense profesional help cant reverse your desillusional state of mind. But it is quite interesting following your madness.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 May 2015, 16:52
by CrazyHorse
Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 01:10
by crusader
CrazyHorse wrote:Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
I favor him too, but I highly doubt that he scores a stoppage. He landed plenty on chinny fighters like Green and Miranda but never had them in serious trouble.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 14:41
by KBB
Butterbean wrote:Didnt tanzio put you in your place yesterday ? Everyone is after you, and they started it, and moderators are on your back, and you are banned for nothing. Actually the whole world is picking on you and you just dont understand why ?
I hate to brake this to you, but you are screwed. At your age even intense profesional help cant reverse your desillusional state of mind. But it is quite interesting following your madness.
LOL to you following the "madness" as you put it, if it so bothers you then stop following me. I haven't made up a thing, go and look at Cheap A's thread about me if you haven't already. The same Trolls there are likely the ones who reported me and got me banned and like I said, I was never told why I was being banned because I've made no statements here that anyone else hadn't made.
You should honestly stay out of it or stop following me if you are so offended. Have a nice day, you take this forum way too seriously and need some help.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 15:39
by Butterbean
I dont get offended by maniacs trolling the net. Im amused and curios to how long your behavior is tolerated.
It puzzles me that you seemingly cant comprehend why you were banned, and just continues your demeaning, abusive, obnoxious, racist, immature, and plain jack ass behavior.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 15:48
by PsychoGamerTwo
crusader wrote:CrazyHorse wrote:Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
I favor him too, but I highly doubt that he scores a stoppage. He landed plenty on chinny fighters like Green and Miranda but never had them in serious trouble.
I doubt it aswell, but with GGG's defense, it could end like Kessler. (although GGG seems to have solid skin)
Ward has been able to hurt Rodriguez though, & stopped Dawson. Against Froch he had a injured hand, and Abraham, well... he said, he CAN punch as hard as Froch, but chooses to punch more accurate though. I don't think Ward is featherfisted, its just that 7 out of his 7 last opponents haven't been stopped at the time, Ward has fought them.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:08
by CrazyHorse
crusader wrote:CrazyHorse wrote:Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
I favor him too, but I highly doubt that he scores a stoppage. He landed plenty on chinny fighters like Green and Miranda but never had them in serious trouble.
But remember GGG is a 160 fighter. Green and Miranda are 175 fighters
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:13
by ikorolev
CrazyHorse wrote:crusader wrote:CrazyHorse wrote:Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
I favor him too, but I highly doubt that he scores a stoppage. He landed plenty on chinny fighters like Green and Miranda but never had them in serious trouble.
But remember GGG is a 160 fighter. Green and Miranda are 175 fighters
Then they were weakened by cutting extra 7 pounds.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:16
by CrazyHorse
ikorolev wrote:Then they were weakened by cutting extra 7 pounds.
They're bigger is what I'm trying to point out compared to GGG. If you are bigger then they're going to be harder to knock out. Ward can stop GGG. As much as I don't like Ward, I think he beats GGG fairly easily. Ward is just too skill, mix in his holding tactics he will put on a clinic
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:26
by crusader
CrazyHorse wrote:crusader wrote:CrazyHorse wrote:Ward wins 118-110. Possible late KO
I favor him too, but I highly doubt that he scores a stoppage. He landed plenty on chinny fighters like Green and Miranda but never had them in serious trouble.
But remember GGG is a 160 fighter. Green and Miranda are 175 fighters
Miranda was splattered in three rounds by Bute and knocked out in four by Abraham at 168, and he was stopped and dropped in seperate fights at 160. He looked fragile many times while he fought from 160-168, so Ward being able to hit him so frequently but not budge him suggests a lack of power to me. Green was also knocked sensless by one shot from Kessler and badly hurt by journeyman Donny McCrary at 168, while being dropped twice and nearly stopped by Miranda at 162.
I don't believe that either of these fighters have shown that they're more durable than GGG even accounting for them being bigger, and given that Ward didn't stop them and has only stopped two of his last ten, one being clubfighter Shelby Pudwill and the other being a drained Dawson, I highly doubt that he'd stop GGG even if he is naturally bigger.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:31
by CrazyHorse
crusader wrote:Miranda was splattered in three rounds by Bute and knocked out in four by Abraham at 168, and he was stopped and dropped in seperate fights at 160. He looked fragile many times while he fought from 160-168, so Ward being able to hit him so frequently but not budge him suggests a lack of power to me. Green was also knocked sensless by one shot from Kessler and badly hurt by journeyman Donny McCrary at 168, while being dropped twice and nearly stopped by Miranda at 162.
I don't believe that either of these fighters have shown that they're more durable than GGG, and given that Ward didn't stop them and has only stopped two of his last ten, one being clubfighter Shelby Pudwill and the other being a drained Dawson, I highly doubt that he'd stop GGG even if he is naturally bigger.
Not saying Ward is a huge puncher or anything but GGG hasn't been in there with any elite fighters yet. I said Ward wins on a decision, possible late ko. I still think it's possible. No matter how you cut it, Ward is the bigger guy and is one of the top pound for pound fighters in the world and has a way better resume than that of Golovkin
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 16:34
by crusader
Yep, he's bigger and has a better resume.
I highly doubt that either of those will lead to him scoring a stoppage though.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 21:31
by KBB
CrazyHorse wrote:Not saying Ward is a huge puncher or anything but GGG hasn't been in there with any elite fighters yet. I said Ward wins on a decision, possible late ko. I still think it's possible. No matter how you cut it, Ward is the bigger guy and is one of the top pound for pound fighters in the world and has a way better resume than that of Golovkin
+1 to this all day long. Ward has stopped naturally bigger fighters than GGG, some people are delusional or give Golovkin way too much credit for not doing much or too little credit to Andre for his punching ability.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 21:47
by crusader
Speaking of not doing much, Ward has stopped only one top ten opponent and that fighter was flattened in roughly a minute in their next bout. I don't see why he should be given much credit for his power when he's frequently landed clean power shots yet repeatedly failed to stop and hurt opponents, including fragile ones like Green and Miranda (see how easily Bute took him out at the same weight).
A very good fighter and one likely to beat GGG in my opinion, but I don't see a stoppage.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 22:09
by ikorolev
KBB wrote:CrazyHorse wrote:Not saying Ward is a huge puncher or anything but GGG hasn't been in there with any elite fighters yet. I said Ward wins on a decision, possible late ko. I still think it's possible. No matter how you cut it, Ward is the bigger guy and is one of the top pound for pound fighters in the world and has a way better resume than that of Golovkin
+1 to this all day long. Ward has stopped naturally bigger fighters than GGG, some people are delusional or give Golovkin way too much credit for not doing much or too little credit to Andre for his punching ability.
Yes, and Hopkins schooled Kovalev, as you predicted

Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 22:12
by KBB
ikorolev wrote:Yes, and Hopkins schooled Kovalev, as you predicted

I guess you're a wizard who has never been wrong about the outcome of a bout, huh? I'm sure you picked Pacquiao to beat Floyd.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 22:34
by ikorolev
KBB wrote:ikorolev wrote:Yes, and Hopkins schooled Kovalev, as you predicted

I guess you're a wizard who has never been wrong about the outcome of a bout, huh? I'm sure you picked Pacquiao to beat Floyd.
Go to PTBF and check yourself. I picked Floyd. Situation with Ward vs Golovkin is similar to Hopkins vs Kovalev. A very skillful, slick, defensive minded African American with a low work rate against a Russian crushing machine which allegedly lacks some skills. As Golovkin is smaller that Ward in contrast with Kovalev being bigger than Hopkins, you replaced "schooling" with "stopping".
The only fighter above C level stopped by Ward was chinny Dawson exhausted by cutting additional 7 pounds, and this "destroyer" will stop Golovkin ???
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 22:36
by KBB
ikorolev wrote:KBB wrote:ikorolev wrote:Yes, and Hopkins schooled Kovalev, as you predicted

I guess you're a wizard who has never been wrong about the outcome of a bout, huh? I'm sure you picked Pacquiao to beat Floyd.
Go to PTBF and check yourself. I picked Floyd. Situation with Ward vs Golovkin is similar to Hopkins vs Kovalev. A very skillful, slick, defensive minded African American with a low work rate against a Russian crushing machine which allegedly lacks some skills. As Golovkin is smaller that Ward in contrast with Kovalev being bigger than Hopkins, you replaced "schooling" with "stopping".
The only fighter above C level stopped by Ward was chinny Dawson exhausted by cutting additional 7 pounds, and this "destroyer" will stop Golovkin ???
And just what A level opponent has GGG stopped that's bigger than him??
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 May 2015, 23:00
by ikorolev
He stopped his last 20 opponents which included a few B and A- level fighters. Ward stopped one in the last 7 fights or 6 years.