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Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:07
by Horse
Neil Gee wrote:There's motivated and not motivated. We saw he is motivated.
It should have been an undercard bout though.
Hearn really couldn't find something better to headline? Very poor.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:08
by jameswilson
I think the two lessons we have learnt tonight are that Tommy Martin is 21 years old and Carl Frampton likes George Groves' jab.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:08
by Rexob
Groves did what he needed to do and looked pretty good.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:09
by Neil Gee
Horse wrote:Neil Gee wrote:There's motivated and not motivated. We saw he is motivated.
It should have been an undercard bout though.
Hearn really couldn't find something better to headline? Very poor.
I'm not defending the quality of the fight. I'm just suggesting a positive point!
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:10
by Rexob
It was alright for free
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Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:11
by Emmseegee
Cant really see Groves going near Smith until Smiths profile raises more. It would be a step backward at this point, not a step backward compared to tonights opponent of course but it would be high risk for little reward. It is however a fight id like to see, just cant see Groves taking it.
Groves' comments regarding Fitzpatrick were a joke, will be interesting to see the battle of words between him and Shane/Barry McGuigan if or when this partnership goes pear shaped.
Commentators here talking of Groves v Murray, thats another good fight id like to see.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:12
by GlobalBox
Rexob wrote:Groves did what he needed to do and looked pretty good.
Thats a fair assessment I think he will fight De Carolis for the title next to be honest and he will never get a better chance to win the title he craves
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:13
by Horse
Neil Gee wrote:I'm not defending the quality of the fight. I'm just suggesting a positive point!
Well, I didn't think he would be unmotivated anyway, so it was pretty meaningless to me.
They should have picked a better easy comeback opponent for Groves.
He really shouldn't feel the need to drop down this low for an opponent.
It suggests a lack of confidence if anything and makes him look weak.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:14
by ashedward
Horse wrote:Can anyone name any worse Sky Sports main events?
Eubank-Jetta. It was the main event in name only because Groves is a name.I think Kalle picked the oppenent.Overall it was a decent card but there should be better main event for sure.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:15
by ashedward
Another live fight,good.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:16
by Cholo_cws
jameswilson wrote:I think the two lessons we have learnt tonight are that Tommy Langford is 21 years old and Carl Frampton likes George Groves' jab.
In that case you need to go back to the classroom James

Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:16
by Horse
ashedward wrote:Eubank-Jetta. It was the main event in name only because Groves is a name.I think Kalle picked the oppenent.Overall it was a decent card but there should be better main event for sure.
Yeah, that's worse.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:17
by Neil Gee
Horse wrote:Neil Gee wrote:I'm not defending the quality of the fight. I'm just suggesting a positive point!
Well, I didn't think he would be unmotivated anyway, so it was pretty meaningless to me.
They should have picked a better easy comeback opponent for Groves.
He really shouldn't feel the need to drop down this low for an opponent.
It suggests a lack of confidence if anything and makes him look weak.
But obviously he has Shane McGuigan in his corner now so nothing can go wrong.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:19
by Neil Gee
oh no, not another misjudged count!
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:20
by Rexob
? The ref started on 6?
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:21
by Horse
Neil Gee wrote:oh no, not another misjudged count!
This guy actually was down for 10.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:21
by Tangerine
Horse wrote:Can anyone name any worse Sky Sports main events?
That shitfest in Newcastle,I think the main event was an 8 rounder Joshua/Jason Gavern?
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:22
by Neil Gee
Horse wrote:Neil Gee wrote:oh no, not another misjudged count!
This guy actually was down for 10.

Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:22
by Horse
LancashireLoyal wrote:That shitfest in Newcastle,I think the main event was an 8 rounder Joshua/Jason Gavern?
Slightly better than that Groves fight in my opinion.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:23
by Horse
Why would people not think that a McKenzie could do something half decent as a boxer?
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:26
by Neil Gee
Horse wrote:Why would people not think that a McKenzie could do something half decent as a boxer?
I don't think they are doubting Leon's pedigree, it's just his age, with a professional football career behind him.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:30
by rd350lc
I thought the Hibbert /Martin fight was a really entertaining scrap and wouldn't mind a rematch .
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:32
by Horse
Neil Gee wrote:I don't think they are doubting Leon's pedigree, it's just his age, with a professional football career behind him.
He is 37, so I guess being a bit cynical makes sense.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 19:34
by CharlesListon
Horse wrote:Why would people not think that a McKenzie could do something half decent as a boxer?
There are a lot of haters and negative people out there willing people to lose and do badly.
Some people feel that he's some kind of Johnny Come Lately, getting by on his name chancer and don't like him for that reason.
Not everyone is as graceful and well wishing as us Horse. Nor do they share our infinite wisdom.
Re: George Groves vs Andrea di Luisa and undercard.
Posted: 30 Jan 2016, 20:36
by TheCobra
Not too bad a card tonight, helped by a couple of half-decent undercard scraps. Hibbert always gives value for money and Martin showed some good promise for a 21 year old, bit too soon for Martin though, just lacks that power and man strength so I think they need to develop him carefully and slowly for a couple more years, don't rush him into any more tough fights like this too soon.
Main fight Di Luisa was a bit crap but George looked good, a solid comeback fight. I agree the comments about Paddy are now in poor taste, he's in the last chance saloon now as there'll be nobody left to blame if he fails at the top level again.