BoxRec

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.

What's boxrec got to do with anything, they are not compiled by a sanctioning body.

The boxrec ranking are created with a formula and not with money. That's why it's easy to show that Wilder his opponend is a nobody who didn't receive his ranking because of his performances in the ring, while Povetkin did. If you didn't know that, then I think it's time you stop following the sport, as you can't see the wood for the trees.

And the boxrec ranking is a reason why Povetkin mandatory in WBC, but not in any other ABC?

Oh, his owner bought him title fight in his hometown, from other ABCs once....

To jamesmcdonnell and bigman1968

asdfjkl if you haven't noticed already (and understanderbly so if you're a MAN) is like a 14 year old boy. A few other posters that are going through what yous are now with asdfjkl have asked why Boxrec forums don't have age restrictions (which can't be checked). Anyway after awhile I started to notice it too. Kalan and asdfjkl these guys are never wrong (if you get me). He's just a kid who googles everything and struggles a bit with English comprehension at times which I don't hold against him. You will continue to prove him wrong and make him look stupid and then he will turn around and say whatever you've said about him/her right back at you. He's an early teen forum poltergeist IDIOT. You're discussing boxing with a 12-14 year old basically.

bigman1968 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
If Haymon have so much power over WBC, why he let them to make Povetkin mandatory??? It was commonly known that Povetkin don't fight outside Russia since he's under Riabinski.
WBC could just ignore Povetkin, as IBF, WBA and IBO did and do.

You and I both know that the rankings and the mandatory title shots have nothing to do with who's worthy. It has everything to do with who pays the most money in the back alley. This is the ONLY way to explain the ridiculous differences these alphabet organizations have in their rankings and who they claim title shots to. When you see a mandatory come out of nowhere and is underserving then you know the fix is in.

Someday, when you have the time, take a look at how different the rankings are for each weight class between all of these organizations. There should be some differences here and there but for the most part, the top 10 rankings in each weight class should have most of the same names save 2 or 3 maybe. The rankings are so different and it all comes down to how much money these promoters or financial partners pay out on the side.

The same way Wilder came up through the ranks. No different.

The question came out some idiot's claim thar WBC hate Povetkin, Riabinski, Eastern European and specifically Russians.
Everyone know that all the ABC's ranking are fixed and paid.

So, if WBC hate Povetkin - why he's mandatory???

It works a lot better than making Ortiz mandatory or Joshua mandatory... and they figured on winning the purse bid... they didn't.

foxdog1923 wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: The boxrec ranking are created with a formula and not with money. That's why it's easy to show that Wilder his opponend is a nobody who didn't receive his ranking because of his performances in the ring, while Povetkin did. If you didn't know that, then I think it's time you stop following the sport, as you can't see the wood for the trees.

And the boxrec ranking is a reason why Povetkin mandatory in WBC, but not in any other ABC?

Oh, his owner bought him title fight in his hometown, from other ABCs once....

To jamesmcdonnell and bigman1968

asdfjkl if you haven't noticed already (and understanderbly so if you're a MAN) is like a 14 year old boy. A few other posters that are going through what yous are now with asdfjkl have asked why Boxrec forums don't have age restrictions (which can't be checked). Anyway after awhile I started to notice it too. Kalan and asdfjkl these guys are never wrong (if you get me). He's just a kid who googles everything and struggles a bit with English comprehension at times which I don't hold against him. You will continue to prove him wrong and make him look stupid and then he will turn around and say whatever you've said about him/her right back at you. He's an early teen forum poltergeist IDIOT. You're discussing boxing with a 12-14 year old basically.

Povetkin is simply innocent, as I said from start of, if you don't like that, go cry about it, and eat your words. Age has nothing to do with this, you be:ing dumb and wrong time over time over time is.

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.

What's boxrec got to do with anything, they are not compiled by a sanctioning body.

The boxrec ranking are created with a formula and not with money. That's why it's easy to show that Wilder his opponend is a nobody who didn't receive his ranking because of his performances in the ring, while Povetkin did. If you didn't know that, then I think it's time you stop following the sport, as you can't see the wood for the trees.

And the boxrec ranking is a reason why Povetkin mandatory in WBC, but not in any other ABC?

Oh, his owner bought him title fight in his hometown, from other ABCs once....

He received a challenge about how to become the mandatory and accomplished it. If Haumono beats Parker he could become a mandatory as well. If Wach won against Povetkin, same story.

If wada clear him, he's clean. You can argue all you like but they have ALL the info, you guys have opinions, not very well informed opinions from what I've seen written

foxdog1923 wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: The boxrec ranking are created with a formula and not with money. That's why it's easy to show that Wilder his opponend is a nobody who didn't receive his ranking because of his performances in the ring, while Povetkin did. If you didn't know that, then I think it's time you stop following the sport, as you can't see the wood for the trees.

And the boxrec ranking is a reason why Povetkin mandatory in WBC, but not in any other ABC?

Oh, his owner bought him title fight in his hometown, from other ABCs once....

To jamesmcdonnell and bigman1968

asdfjkl if you haven't noticed already (and understanderbly so if you're a MAN) is like a 14 year old boy. A few other posters that are going through what yous are now with asdfjkl have asked why Boxrec forums don't have age restrictions (which can't be checked). Anyway after awhile I started to notice it too. Kalan and asdfjkl these guys are never wrong (if you get me). He's just a kid who googles everything and struggles a bit with English comprehension at times which I don't hold against him. You will continue to prove him wrong and make him look stupid and then he will turn around and say whatever you've said about him/her right back at you. He's an early teen forum poltergeist IDIOT. You're discussing boxing with a 12-14 year old basically.

Totally agree. Told myself more than twice not to react to their posts, and even succeeded for a couple of months
Actually, Kalan "sounds" like Russian "patriot" with agenda (and good English) ..

bigman1968 wrote: Totally agree. Told myself more than twice not to react to their posts, and even succeeded for a couple of months
Actually, Kalan "sounds" like Russian "patriot" with agenda (and good English) ..

Regarding asdfjkl, I can't remember which posters mentioned the age restriction thing, and at first I thought nothing of it other than just a put down but then when I continued to post with asdfjkl I started to notice childish theories (e.g. If 2 boxers have thought the same boxer, the better boxer is the one that won by the faster KO and therefore will undoubtedly win if the 2 boxers met based just on that) and immature get backs where when you prove them wrong, they'll evade the arguement you'd be having and bring up something else. From there it just does your head in. Although I know this, I get sucked in still SOMETIMES.

Regarding Kalan, well he's a piece of work isn't he. He says Anthony Joshua is the best boxer ever and in an Ortiz thread he says Ortiz would beat Joshua. His latest one is how he tries to brainstorm you into thinking Wilt would beat Ali (despite Wilt never fighting anyone) and then he's on the Bruce Lee vs Ali thread saying that Lee is just a charismatic showman who's never fought anybody, not in those words but close enough. He can make some sense at times but then his posts can be far fetched.

Most of the posters here just wynd them up and then just laugh and leave them be. Just like a cruel monkey owner stabs their monkey in a cage with a blunt object just to get a reaction. Kalan is our monkey in the cage.

The really funny thing is it seems like he's been right about the whole situation from the start, so if you see him as a monkey foxdog then that would have to put you at slug level wouldn't it

Pureist wrote:The really funny thing is it seems like he's been right about the whole situation from the start, so if you see him as a monkey foxdog then that would have to put you at slug level wouldn't it

What do you think of the name Pure Mist?..

Everytime I think of the MILLIONS that Floyd paid Manny, I think...Pure Mist!

Slimy slug sounds better, I see you can't admit when your wrong, typical casual fan

Pureist wrote:The really funny thing is it seems like he's been right about the whole situation from the start, so if you see him as a monkey foxdog then that would have to put you at slug level wouldn't it

He knows nothing, like all of us. Promoters, boxers and forum members are unreliable sources

The only somehow reliable info we have comes from WBC site.

bigman1968 wrote:

Pureist wrote:The really funny thing is it seems like he's been right about the whole situation from the start, so if you see him as a monkey foxdog then that would have to put you at slug level wouldn't it

He knows nothing, like all of us. Promoters, boxers and forum members are unreliable sources

The only somehow reliable info we have comes from WBC site.

You're wasting your time. The guys a numbskull.

bigman1968 wrote:

Pureist wrote:The really funny thing is it seems like he's been right about the whole situation from the start, so if you see him as a monkey foxdog then that would have to put you at slug level wouldn't it

He knows nothing, like all of us. Promoters, boxers and forum members are unreliable sources

The only somehow reliable info we have comes from WBC site.

Do you expect the WBC to say Povetkin did anything wrong then? Or that Povetkin tested guilty? Lol, they will never do that and you know it.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
If Haymon have so much power over WBC, why he let them to make Povetkin mandatory??? It was commonly known that Povetkin don't fight outside Russia since he's under Riabinski.
WBC could just ignore Povetkin, as IBF, WBA and IBO did and do.

You and I both know that the rankings and the mandatory title shots have nothing to do with who's worthy. It has everything to do with who pays the most money in the back alley. This is the ONLY way to explain the ridiculous differences these alphabet organizations have in their rankings and who they claim title shots to. When you see a mandatory come out of nowhere and is underserving then you know the fix is in.

Someday, when you have the time, take a look at how different the rankings are for each weight class between all of these organizations. There should be some differences here and there but for the most part, the top 10 rankings in each weight class should have most of the same names save 2 or 3 maybe. The rankings are so different and it all comes down to how much money these promoters or financial partners pay out on the side.

The same way Wilder came up through the ranks. No different.

Precisely, so the idea that the WBC have it in for Povetkin and Rabinsky is ludricrous, given that Rabinsky is loaded. The WBC don't care about nationality, only dollar bills, same as all the sanctioning bodies. If you're promoter has the money to get you there, you'll get ranked and finally mandated to fight for the title.

The point that was being made is not that the WBC disliked Povetkin. Povetkin's people obviously paid enough to get him this mandatory defense. They just didn't give as much as Haymon's people did to get the fight "postponed" with a "dirty" sample that wasn't even dirty. That's the only way to explain how this fight was so quickly discarded and opened the door for Wilder to continue to fight locally defending his title against soft competition.

Money is everything and the sport is corrupt. It only takes a certain amount of it filtered through the right people to get what you want. It's sad either way you look at it.