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bigman1968 wrote:

x2x wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If he wins, Povetkin will probably try to milk the interim belt and avoid Wilder.

Say what? Povetkin was all ready and waiting for Wilder to show up, but of course he never did.

Maybe becouse WBC canc elled the fight? Becouse Povetkin got busted on peds...

Are you really this retarded? Povetkin is 100% innocent, sadly Wada screwed up. It's sad to see that retards never seem to understand the real story.

If Povetkin KO's Stiverne that'd be INSANE, BWARE is tough

Stiverne has never been legitimately stopped, his only stoppage was way too premature Bermane was Pounding his chest like King Kong and then the ref stopped the fight

this could be a FOTY candidate

asdfjkl wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

x2x wrote:

Say what? Povetkin was all ready and waiting for Wilder to show up, but of course he never did.

Maybe becouse WBC canc elled the fight? Becouse Povetkin got busted on peds...

Are you really this retarded? Povetkin is 100% innocent, sadly Wada screwed up. It's sad to see that retards never seem to understand the real story.

YOU are calling someone else retarded? Bigman, you are wasting your time with this clown.

bigman1968 wrote:
Wlad also landed 139 punches (Povetkin only 59) and controlled his chubby opponent completely. All the Russians were embarrased by Povetkin's bullish and lame show. And 4 KD, not one...another 3 times he just was humiliated and thrown on the canvas like a ragdoll

This post is so nuts I shouldn't even bother responding to it.

Chubby?

"Russians were embarrassed"

"Povetkin's bullish show"

GTF outa here! You never even watched the fight. I'm a fan of Wlad but I've never seen him fight as dirty as that before. He should have been warned and then disqualified, but Pabon put on one of the worst referee exhibitions I ever saw. Wlad kept wrestling P to the floor and once P slipped and every time it was a knockdown according to Pabon! Wlad was hanging on to the back of P like an ape. He was holding and hitting and elbowing him and continually wrestling. Finally Pabon took a point away from him but that's all.

And look at you guys getting so self righteous about some mild drug like meldonium while athletes in the US are doped to the gills starting in elementary school!

Badhusker wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Maybe becouse WBC canc elled the fight? Becouse Povetkin got busted on peds...

Are you really this retarded? Povetkin is 100% innocent, sadly Wada screwed up. It's sad to see that retards never seem to understand the real story.

YOU are calling someone else retarded? Bigman, you are wasting your time with this clown.

Well onviously, if you still think the WBC cancelled the fight and on top of that still think Povetkin got busted. Both are wrong, suggesting else just proves you to be retarded.

x2x wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Wlad also landed 139 punches (Povetkin only 59) and controlled his chubby opponent completely. All the Russians were embarrased by Povetkin's bullish and lame show. And 4 KD, not one...another 3 times he just was humiliated and thrown on the canvas like a ragdoll

This post is so nuts I shouldn't even bother responding to it.

Chubby?

"Russians were embarrassed"

"Povetkin's bullish show"

GTF outa here! You never even watched the fight. I'm a fan of Wlad but I've never seen him fight as dirty as that before. He should have been warned and then disqualified, but Pabon put on one of the worst referee exhibitions I ever saw. Wlad kept wrestling P to the floor and once P slipped and every time it was a knockdown according to Pabon! Wlad was hanging on to the back of P like an ape. He was holding and hitting and elbowing him and continually wrestling. Finally Pabon took a point away from him but that's all.

And look at you guys getting so self righteous about some mild drug like meldonium while athletes in the US are doped to the gills starting in elementary school!

Exactly, and it was the highest purse but in the past decade in the heavyweight league for a reason. Klitschko knew he had less skills, but far more advantages in all the other ways as Povetkin. Povetkin came to fight, Wlad came to avoid the fight.

Badhusker wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Maybe becouse WBC canc elled the fight? Becouse Povetkin got busted on peds...

Are you really this retarded? Povetkin is 100% innocent, sadly Wada screwed up. It's sad to see that retards never seem to understand the real story.

YOU are calling someone else retarded? Bigman, you are wasting your time with this clown.

He entertains me than I'm bored waitingfor flights in airports-)))

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If he wins, Povetkin will probably try to milk the interim belt and avoid Wilder.

Nope, "povetkin" is not a commercial venue...it's part of gov propaganda....

x2x wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Wlad also landed 139 punches (Povetkin only 59) and controlled his chubby opponent completely. All the Russians were embarrased by Povetkin's bullish and lame show. And 4 KD, not one...another 3 times he just was humiliated and thrown on the canvas like a ragdoll

This post is so nuts I shouldn't even bother responding to it.

Chubby?

"Russians were embarrassed"

"Povetkin's bullish show"

GTF outa here! You never even watched the fight. I'm a fan of Wlad but I've never seen him fight as dirty as that before. He should have been warned and then disqualified, but Pabon put on one of the worst referee exhibitions I ever saw. Wlad kept wrestling P to the floor and once P slipped and every time it was a knockdown according to Pabon! Wlad was hanging on to the back of P like an ape. He was holding and hitting and elbowing him and continually wrestling. Finally Pabon took a point away from him but that's all.

And look at you guys getting so self righteous about some mild drug like meldonium while athletes in the US are doped to the gills starting in elementary school!

Actually I watched this disgrace live on large screen in one of "kolbasoff" restaurants in Moscow, full of Russian fans, steamed from patriotic hooplah that was built pre fight.

From round 4 all the croud was silent and embarassed..half left after round 7.

Those who left till the end called their vitiaz Armpitkin and claimed he is the same bum he was vs Huck...

bigman1968 wrote: Actually I watched this disgrace live on large screen in one of "kolbasoff" restaurants in Moscow, full of Russian fans, steamed from patriotic hooplah that was built pre fight.

From round 4 all the croud was silent and embarassed..half left after round 7.

Those who left till the end called their vitiaz Armpitkin and claimed he is the same bum he was vs Huck...

What were u doing in Moscow?

What is "ampitkin"?

I find it hard to believe what u r saying. I would think that the people in that restaurant would have been very angry at the behavior of Wlad and the so called referee. Vityaz man gave it everything he had, but Wlad - who I am otherwise a big fan of - should have been disqualified. I stand by everything I said above.

x2x wrote:

bigman1968 wrote: Actually I watched this disgrace live on large screen in one of "kolbasoff" restaurants in Moscow, full of Russian fans, steamed from patriotic hooplah that was built pre fight.

From round 4 all the croud was silent and embarassed..half left after round 7.

Those who left till the end called their vitiaz Armpitkin and claimed he is the same bum he was vs Huck...

What were u doing in Moscow?

What is "ampitkin"?

I find it hard to believe what u r saying. I would think that the people in that restaurant would have been very angry at the behavior of Wlad and the so called referee. Vityaz man gave it everything he had, but Wlad - who I am otherwise a big fan of - should have been disqualified. I stand by everything I said above.

What were u doing in Moscow? - Business...at least did, before rouble collapsed.

What is "ampitkin"? - Armpitkin(Подмышкин)...becouse Povetkin sniffed Vlad's and Huck's armpits during his fights

I find it hard to believe what u r saying. - So don't, who cares?

I would think that the people in that restaurant would have been very angry at the behavior of Wlad and the so called referee. Vityaz man gave it everything he had, but Wlad - who I am otherwise a big fan of - should have been disqualified. I stand by everything I said abo

Povetkin indeed gave all he had, not too much obviously. He proved his durability, mostly. Wlad showed that he's aging and don't have legs to move.
The referee should have reduce points from Povetkin for low head. Povetkin lowered his head to avoid punches, like he did against Huck. Huck tried to hit him anyway and was worn for hitting back of the head at his fight...so Vlad didn't tried to punch and received Sasha's head under his armpits And I'm not any boxer fan, btw...Vlad's style is boring and frastrating

I stand by everything I said above. - Whatever. If all of us here will agree on everything - no need to this forum

bigman1968 wrote:...
I stand by everything I said above. - Whatever. If all of us here will agree on everything - no need to this forum

Quite so!

Enlightened-One wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's typical that most of you here choose to target the powerless Wilder in this situation.
He is just a worker like you. Why can't people understand that?
imo, it shows a weakness. You are willing to point your anger at the easy scapegoat target...

FYI - All I did was list the facts.

I don't have any control over what actually transpired in the real world and nor did I make any derogatory remarks about Wilder.

I only commented on the bizarrely unfair treatment of Povetkin and my bullet-pointed list of facts wasn't intended to offend anyone.

While omitting other important facts. Stop acting like fighting for the interim title is a bad thing compared to sitting out for a year or so while the champ is injured.

p4p1 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's typical that most of you here choose to target the powerless Wilder in this situation.
He is just a worker like you. Why can't people understand that?
imo, it shows a weakness. You are willing to point your anger at the easy scapegoat target...

FYI - All I did was list the facts.

I don't have any control over what actually transpired in the real world and nor did I make any derogatory remarks about Wilder.

I only commented on the bizarrely unfair treatment of Povetkin and my bullet-pointed list of facts wasn't intended to offend anyone.

While omitting other important facts. Stop acting like fighting for the interim title is a bad thing compared to sitting out for a year or so while the champ is injured.

In fact Wilder should become champion in recess and the winner of Povetkin/Stiverne should become the real champion again.

p4p1 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's typical that most of you here choose to target the powerless Wilder in this situation.
He is just a worker like you. Why can't people understand that?
imo, it shows a weakness. You are willing to point your anger at the easy scapegoat target...

FYI - All I did was list the facts.

I don't have any control over what actually transpired in the real world and nor did I make any derogatory remarks about Wilder.

I only commented on the bizarrely unfair treatment of Povetkin and my bullet-pointed list of facts wasn't intended to offend anyone.

While omitting other important facts. Stop acting like fighting for the interim title is a bad thing compared to sitting out for a year or so while the champ is injured.

What important facts have I omitted, considering I've even quoted the lawsuit notes from Wilder's very own legal representatives?

I've even provided those notes for other people's perusal, to help educate themselves on the reality of the situation.

And how have you contributed to this discussion, apart from expressing criticism?

bigman1968 wrote:

x2x wrote:

bigman1968 wrote: Actually I watched this disgrace live on large screen in one of "kolbasoff" restaurants in Moscow, full of Russian fans, steamed from patriotic hooplah that was built pre fight.

From round 4 all the croud was silent and embarassed..half left after round 7.

Those who left till the end called their vitiaz Armpitkin and claimed he is the same bum he was vs Huck...

What were u doing in Moscow?

What is "ampitkin"?

I find it hard to believe what u r saying. I would think that the people in that restaurant would have been very angry at the behavior of Wlad and the so called referee. Vityaz man gave it everything he had, but Wlad - who I am otherwise a big fan of - should have been disqualified. I stand by everything I said above.

What were u doing in Moscow? - Business...at least did, before rouble collapsed.

What is "ampitkin"? - Armpitkin(Подмышкин)...becouse Povetkin sniffed Vlad's and Huck's armpits during his fights

I find it hard to believe what u r saying. - So don't, who cares?

I would think that the people in that restaurant would have been very angry at the behavior of Wlad and the so called referee. Vityaz man gave it everything he had, but Wlad - who I am otherwise a big fan of - should have been disqualified. I stand by everything I said abo

Povetkin indeed gave all he had, not too much obviously. He proved his durability, mostly. Wlad showed that he's aging and don't have legs to move.
The referee should have reduce points from Povetkin for low head. Povetkin lowered his head to avoid punches, like he did against Huck. Huck tried to hit him anyway and was worn for hitting back of the head at his fight...so Vlad didn't tried to punch and received Sasha's head under his armpits And I'm not any boxer fan, btw...Vlad's style is boring and frastrating

I stand by everything I said above. - Whatever. If all of us here will agree on everything - no need to this forum

Huck never tried to hit Povetkin at all? Just used his hands to defend himself, have you even seen the fight at all? This is THE reason Povetkin won, despite hitting the wall for 5 rounds! Something I've never seen being done by anyone, it killed Wlad in no time when he had it.

Also note that Russians see Ukraine as a part of Russia, so see the fight as between two Russians.

Povetkin-Stiverne will likely be on December 17 in Russia

https://twitter.com/garnekmedia/status/ ... 7514807296

This fight gets a zero on the interest meter.

StrapMeUp wrote:If Povetkin KO's Stiverne that'd be INSANE, BWARE is tough

Stiverne has never been legitimately stopped, his only stoppage was way too premature Bermane was Pounding his chest like King Kong and then the ref stopped the fight

this could be a FOTY candidate

Stiverne is done, Rossy had him on the canvas.

Povetkin stopped Wach who has a better chin.

Povetkin by KO.

Ricky_ wrote:

StrapMeUp wrote:If Povetkin KO's Stiverne that'd be INSANE, BWARE is tough

Stiverne has never been legitimately stopped, his only stoppage was way too premature Bermane was Pounding his chest like King Kong and then the ref stopped the fight

this could be a FOTY candidate

Stiverne is done, Rossy had him on the canvas.

Povetkin stopped Wach who has a better chin.

Povetkin by KO.

He stopped Wach on cuts, he didn't kncok him dow or hurt him. But Stierne has has the tendency to come in fights out of shape and stay on the ropes a lot. So I can see Povetkin stopping him, on winning by wide UD.

Boxing Writer wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

StrapMeUp wrote:If Povetkin KO's Stiverne that'd be INSANE, BWARE is tough

Stiverne has never been legitimately stopped, his only stoppage was way too premature Bermane was Pounding his chest like King Kong and then the ref stopped the fight

this could be a FOTY candidate

Stiverne is done, Rossy had him on the canvas.

Povetkin stopped Wach who has a better chin.

Povetkin by KO.

He stopped Wach on cuts, he didn't kncok him dow or hurt him. But Stierne has has the tendency to come in fights out of shape and stay on the ropes a lot. So I can see Povetkin stopping him, on winning by wide UD.

Everything you said can be said about Povetkin. This could be for a World Title it's that good of a fight.

Povetkin is not invincible, Povetkin's worst moments have looked a lot worse than Stievernes. How about getting dropped about a dozen times vs Wlad or the Huck fight.

Povetkin should be favored but Steiverne is STEEL. This is a fight between two top 5-10 Heavys. 1 punch can change everything and BOTH fighters have their weaknesses. Povetkin can throw beautiful combinations, Stevirne can be slick with his catch and counter. This is going to be a war, both fighters want a slugfest.

StrapMeUp wrote:

Boxing Writer wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Stiverne is done, Rossy had him on the canvas.

Povetkin stopped Wach who has a better chin.

Povetkin by KO.

He stopped Wach on cuts, he didn't kncok him dow or hurt him. But Stierne has has the tendency to come in fights out of shape and stay on the ropes a lot. So I can see Povetkin stopping him, on winning by wide UD.

Everything you said can be said about Povetkin. This could be for a World Title it's that good of a fight.

Povetkin is not invincible, Povetkin's worst moments have looked a lot worse than Stievernes. How about getting dropped about a dozen times vs Wlad or the Huck fight.

Povetkin should be favored but Steiverne is STEEL. This is a fight between two top 5-10 Heavys. 1 punch can change everything and BOTH fighters have their weaknesses. Povetkin can throw beautiful combinations, Stevirne can be slick with his catch and counter. This is going to be a war, both fighters want a slugfest.

Povetkin is 10x better than he was in the Huck fight. I wrote Povetkin off as a serious contender after the Huck fight. But you can't deny he's inproved significantly.

On the other hand, since the win vs Arreola, Stiverne has regressed significantly. To be expected I guess given his age.

Ricky_ wrote:

StrapMeUp wrote:

Boxing Writer wrote: He stopped Wach on cuts, he didn't kncok him dow or hurt him. But Stierne has has the tendency to come in fights out of shape and stay on the ropes a lot. So I can see Povetkin stopping him, on winning by wide UD.

Everything you said can be said about Povetkin. This could be for a World Title it's that good of a fight.

Povetkin is not invincible, Povetkin's worst moments have looked a lot worse than Stievernes. How about getting dropped about a dozen times vs Wlad or the Huck fight.

Povetkin should be favored but Steiverne is STEEL. This is a fight between two top 5-10 Heavys. 1 punch can change everything and BOTH fighters have their weaknesses. Povetkin can throw beautiful combinations, Stevirne can be slick with his catch and counter. This is going to be a war, both fighters want a slugfest.

Povetkin is 10x better than he was in the Huck fight. I wrote Povetkin off as a serious contender after the Huck fight. But you can't deny he's inproved significantly.

On the other hand, since the win vs Arreola, Stiverne has regressed significantly. To be expected I guess given his age.

I agree Stevierne has been on the decline but he could show up for potentially his last shot.
Povetkin is no Arrerola, Stiverne is no Perez as well. Both preform better against fighters similar to their height. I'm interested to see Povetkin after getting popped. I without a doubt favor Povetkin but I wouldn't be shocked at all if Stevirne got the W.

All I know is as a boxing Fan I would much rather see this for a World title than Contender Joesph Parker vs Prospect Andy Ruiz. Do you agree with that?

StrapMeUp wrote:All I know is as a boxing Fan I would much rather see this for a World title than Contender Joesph Parker vs Prospect Andy Ruiz.

Myself as well.

Andy Ruiz shouldn't be fighting for a world title, it should be Parker vs. someone decent like Ortiz.

Stiverne vs. Povetkin isn't a bad HW match up, and it's not for the real title anyway.

The WBC is just wasting time to help Wilder in as much ways as possible and face Povetkin once Povetkin is 139 years old or so.