Did Dominic Ingle make the correct decision ?

[BigDoofus]

The fight was bummed up as a super fight, which it wasn't even close to. While I agree Dom saved Kell, it hardly covers Kell in glory basically quitting. Take Carmen Basillio coming up in weight to fight the great Ray Robinson. Had his eye completely smashed early on and gutted it out to almost win (lots at ringside had him winning). There was no showing out in that fight. Carmen's eye was far far worse than Brooks.

It was if you consider bruising to be worse than a fractured eye socket.
Basilio never won a title fight after.

Basilios eye was shattered. Much worse than Brooks. Each to their own. I wasn't impressed with Kell in all honesty.

All the reports I've read say Basilio had a grossly swollen eye - I've not found one to say his eye was shattered. Basilio never won a major fight after.

[Tomasino]

It was if you consider bruising to be worse than a fractured eye socket.
Basilio never won a title fight after.

Basilios eye was shattered. Much worse than Brooks. Each to their own. I wasn't impressed with Kell in all honesty.

All the reports I've read say Basilio had a grossly swollen eye - I've not found one to say his eye was shattered. Basilio never won a major fight after.

Basillio himself stated it was shattered. Have you seen it yourself? Brooks is like a scratch in comparison.

[Monster-Killer-Gang1]

Hard to know. Actually. It did seem to me Brook KO,d soon enough but..as the man said himself he would of rather been KO'd boxers have comeback from worse.

[BigDoofus]

Basilios eye was shattered. Much worse than Brooks. Each to their own. I wasn't impressed with Kell in all honesty.

All the reports I've read say Basilio had a grossly swollen eye - I've not found one to say his eye was shattered. Basilio never won a major fight after.

Basillio himself stated it was shattered. Have you seen it yourself? Brooks is like a scratch in comparison.

No mate, I wasn't alive then. I did a "search" and couldn't find anything besides "swollen". He boxed 6 months later but I can't find evidence of surgery or lasting damage to his eye.
I'm sure in Basilio's time there were people about claiming that people were tougher 60 years before but to call a fractured eye socket a scratch is beyond stupid.

[Tomasino]

All the reports I've read say Basilio had a grossly swollen eye - I've not found one to say his eye was shattered. Basilio never won a major fight after.

Basillio himself stated it was shattered. Have you seen it yourself? Brooks is like a scratch in comparison.

No mate, I wasn't alive then. I did a "search" and couldn't find anything besides "swollen". He boxed 6 months later but I can't find evidence of surgery or lasting damage to his eye.
I'm sure in Basilio's time there were people about claiming that people were tougher 60 years before but to call a fractured eye socket a scratch is beyond stupid.

Lol! It's available on YouTube

[Autobarn]

The worst decision was taking the fight in the first place. One of the least well planned excursions up in weight you'd ever come across. The fight was improvised after the Golovkin-Eubank negotiations stalled. Kell took the sweet deal, payday at home and eat more during preparations. Now, the consequences.

To actually go in there aiming to be the bigger man, when he needed to be lean and fast and get out of the way of shots. To stay on the ropes against of all opponents, Golovkin.

Has Kell really becomes folk hero for the week, because he landed good shots early in the fight? That's what he was supposed to do, minimum.

Now he's out injured yet again. He's too big to get back down to 147 where he holds a title (a title he went to America to win).

HBO power brokers may have said to Eddie's face, yeah , agreed, we need to get Kell in the big mix. But we will see if that is delivered on. Because the winner gets in the big mix first.

[big lennox]

The worst decision was taking the fight in the first place. One of the least well planned excursions up in weight you'd ever come across. The fight was improvised after the Golovkin-Eubank negotiations stalled. Kell took the sweet deal, payday at home and eat more during preparations. Now, the consequences.

To actually go in there aiming to be the bigger man, when he needed to be lean and fast and get out of the way of shots. To stay on the ropes against of all opponents, Golovkin.

Has Kell really becomes folk hero for the week, because he landed good shots early in the fight? That's what he was supposed to do, minimum.

Now he's out injured yet again. He's too big to get back down to 147 where he holds a title (a title he went to America to win).

HBO power brokers may have said to Eddie's face, yeah , agreed, we need to get Kell in the big mix. But we will see if that is delivered on. Because the winner gets in the big mix first.

Completely disagree with this statement. If you are a prize fighter, surely it is your job and ambition to take on the biggest challenges for the most amount of money. Kell, it would seem, is naturally growing out of the Welterweight division and had an opportunity to take on the biggest name in boxing for one of the most prestigious prizes -the world middleweight title, at a weight that he is comfortable with. He clearly had a game plan and was boxing very well and gave Golovkin all sorts of problems and a real fight. His profile was raised, he wasn't brutally knocked out like Amir Khan, or wobbling all over the place, so it was worth it, and he should feel proud of his performance. He took on a potentially all time great fighter in a way that no one else has been able to.

[littlepug]

The worst decision was taking the fight in the first place. One of the least well planned excursions up in weight you'd ever come across. The fight was improvised after the Golovkin-Eubank negotiations stalled. Kell took the sweet deal, payday at home and eat more during preparations. Now, the consequences.

To actually go in there aiming to be the bigger man, when he needed to be lean and fast and get out of the way of shots. To stay on the ropes against of all opponents, Golovkin.

Has Kell really becomes folk hero for the week, because he landed good shots early in the fight? That's what he was supposed to do, minimum.

Now he's out injured yet again. He's too big to get back down to 147 where he holds a title (a title he went to America to win).

HBO power brokers may have said to Eddie's face, yeah , agreed, we need to get Kell in the big mix. But we will see if that is delivered on. Because the winner gets in the big mix first.

Completely disagree with this statement. If you are a prize fighter, surely it is your job and ambition to take on the biggest challenges for the most amount of money. Kell, it would seem, is naturally growing out of the Welterweight division and had an opportunity to take on the biggest name in boxing for one of the most prestigious prizes -the world middleweight title, at a weight that he is comfortable with. He clearly had a game plan and was boxing very well and gave Golovkin all sorts of problems and a real fight. His profile was raised, he wasn't brutally knocked out like Amir Khan, or wobbling all over the place, so it was worth it, and he should feel proud of his performance. He took on a potentially all time great fighter in a way that no one else has been able to.

Don't think hes naturally growing out of the division at all, hes bulked up too much with the weights, and that eye socket is gonna give him problems for the rest of his career, so wasn't that smart a move.

[BigDoofus]

Don't think hes naturally growing out of the division at all, hes bulked up too much with the weights, and that eye socket is gonna give him problems for the rest of his career, so wasn't that smart a move.

Brook was weighing in at 154 when he was 20 years old. Haters gonna hate.

[littlepug]

Don't think hes naturally growing out of the division at all, hes bulked up too much with the weights, and that eye socket is gonna give him problems for the rest of his career, so wasn't that smart a move.

Brook was weighing in at 154 when he was 20 years old. Haters gonna hate.

so ? I have absolutely no idea how brook was living his life when he was 20 do you ? oh and that "haters gonna hate " remark just confirmed to me what age group your in, converse with me like a man not a teenager and we might get somewhere

[BigDoofus]

Don't think hes naturally growing out of the division at all, hes bulked up too much with the weights, and that eye socket is gonna give him problems for the rest of his career, so wasn't that smart a move.

Brook was weighing in at 154 when he was 20 years old. Haters gonna hate.

so ? I have absolutely no idea how brook was living his life when he was 20 do you ? oh and that "haters gonna hate " remark just confirmed to me what age group your in, converse with me like a man not a teenager and we might get somewhere

His weight at 20 would suggest that your comment about him bulking up was nonsense. Anything positive to say about world champion multi-millionaire Kell Brook?

[mickey1975]

Wasn't he pissed up fighting in nightclubs at 20 getting Fwank to write to the judge so he didn't get jail?

[Counter-puncher]

Wasn't he pissed up fighting in nightclubs at 20 getting Fwank to write to the judge so he didn't get jail?

'allegedly'

[littlepug]

Brook was weighing in at 154 when he was 20 years old. Haters gonna hate.

so ? I have absolutely no idea how brook was living his life when he was 20 do you ? oh and that "haters gonna hate " remark just confirmed to me what age group your in, converse with me like a man not a teenager and we might get somewhere

His weight at 20 would suggest that your comment about him bulking up was nonsense. Anything positive to say about world champion multi-millionaire Kell Brook?

baby fat ? undisciplined ? anyone can put weight on at any age, means nothing, and seeing as ive only ever criticised him once so im not gonna start blowing smoke up his arse now, hes had a good career and achieved a lot but nothing that has made me go wow !

[BigDoofus]

so ? I have absolutely no idea how brook was living his life when he was 20 do you ? oh and that "haters gonna hate " remark just confirmed to me what age group your in, converse with me like a man not a teenager and we might get somewhere

His weight at 20 would suggest that your comment about him bulking up was nonsense. Anything positive to say about world champion multi-millionaire Kell Brook?

baby fat ? undisciplined ? anyone can put weight on at any age, means nothing, and seeing as ive only ever criticised him once so im not gonna start blowing smoke up his arse now, hes had a good career and achieved a lot but nothing that has made me go wow !

Weight means nothing? You were just telling us that Brook had bulked up from doing too much weights? How would you know that?

One of the first posts you made 4 years ago stated "most of the top welters won't see him as a major threat".

You're coming across as a very bitter man, Jason.

[stujones]

The worst decision was taking the fight in the first place. One of the least well planned excursions up in weight you'd ever come across. The fight was improvised after the Golovkin-Eubank negotiations stalled. Kell took the sweet deal, payday at home and eat more during preparations. Now, the consequences.

To actually go in there aiming to be the bigger man, when he needed to be lean and fast and get out of the way of shots. To stay on the ropes against of all opponents, Golovkin.

Has Kell really becomes folk hero for the week, because he landed good shots early in the fight? That's what he was supposed to do, minimum.

Now he's out injured yet again. He's too big to get back down to 147 where he holds a title (a title he went to America to win).

HBO power brokers may have said to Eddie's face, yeah , agreed, we need to get Kell in the big mix. But we will see if that is delivered on. Because the winner gets in the big mix first.

I can definitely see what you are saying. Was Brook really ahead on the cards, or was that Eddie spin... if he was - can we please suspend those judges. I think the timing of the stoppage was perfect for Kell's career - as you say he is a hero for a week because of the way it was stopped.... Ingle can be the "bad guy" for a period.... Had Kell been completely sparked out it would have done nothing for his marketability. Look at Khan, still mandatory for Garcia but is GBP going "mmmm Garcia vs Khan 2, lets make it a Autumn PPV blockbuster" - no, that's because Khan was KO'd heavily vs Canelo. Kell is still a hero, but as you say, in reality surely a Welterweight champion of his pedigree (lets not forget he won the title against a solid champion) was expected to land some shots vs GGG - ultimately he got stopped in the first half of the fight and everytime GGG landed clean, Brook was hurt. In reality the fight went as expected, but because of the stoppage Hearn now has a PPV star.

It is a bit like Groves vs Froch 1 - had Froch had those extra 20 seconds to KO Groves, then there would have been no rematch and it would have been considered a dissapointing Froch performance.

[littlepug]

His weight at 20 would suggest that your comment about him bulking up was nonsense. Anything positive to say about world champion multi-millionaire Kell Brook?

baby fat ? undisciplined ? anyone can put weight on at any age, means nothing, and seeing as ive only ever criticised him once so im not gonna start blowing smoke up his arse now, hes had a good career and achieved a lot but nothing that has made me go wow !

Weight means nothing? You were just telling us that Brook had bulked up from doing too much weights? How would you know that?

One of the first posts you made 4 years ago stated "most of the top welters won't see him as a major threat".

You're coming across as a very bitter man, Jason.

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

[Tomasino]

It's a sad day when you can't give an honest opinion about a fight without being labelled a 'hater'

[BigDoofus]

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

You seem rattled Jason. I would have expected you of all people to remain poker faced at all times.

[littlepug]

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

You seem rattled Jason. I would have expected you of all people to remain poker faced at all times.

ha ha well aren't we a creepy little fellow ! aint rattled mate, although I am slightly perplexed at what you think your trying to achieve by using my name on a forum when I obviously haven't given it to you, yes I know you've been digging around my posts for some reason and must of been some dig cos ive only named myself once on here, your motives are unclear and more than a little strange care to enlighten me ?

[mike john]

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

You seem rattled Jason. I would have expected you of all people to remain poker faced at all times.

freaky.

[Tomasino]

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

You seem rattled Jason. I would have expected you of all people to remain poker faced at all times.

ha ha well aren't we a creepy little fellow ! aint rattled mate, although I am slightly perplexed at what you think your trying to achieve by using my name on a forum when I obviously haven't given it to you, yes I know you've been digging around my posts for some reason and must of been some dig cos ive only named myself once on here, your motives are unclear and more than a little strange care to enlighten me ?

I've had this kind of crap on here before too,recently actually. Weirdos!

[Boxerbeetle]

The worst decision was taking the fight in the first place. One of the least well planned excursions up in weight you'd ever come across. The fight was improvised after the Golovkin-Eubank negotiations stalled. Kell took the sweet deal, payday at home and eat more during preparations. Now, the consequences.

To actually go in there aiming to be the bigger man, when he needed to be lean and fast and get out of the way of shots. To stay on the ropes against of all opponents, Golovkin.

Has Kell really becomes folk hero for the week, because he landed good shots early in the fight? That's what he was supposed to do, minimum.

Now he's out injured yet again. He's too big to get back down to 147 where he holds a title (a title he went to America to win).

HBO power brokers may have said to Eddie's face, yeah , agreed, we need to get Kell in the big mix. But we will see if that is delivered on. Because the winner gets in the big mix first.

Whilst much of that is true, Brook will have made enough from Saturday night to never have to worry about money again, so he might not even be too bothered about his injury.

Also, it's all very well saying the 'minimum' Brook was supposed to do was land some good shots early, but seasoned middleweights like Geale/Macklin/Rubio etc didn't manage it.

[coneye]

Take the x rays away ,, that eye did not look bad enough to stop the fight , you see worse lumps on many cards ,,, What was a good enough reason to stop it, was Kell was visibly distressed , he was looking to his corner , constantly touching the lump , and basicly getting battered around the ring , he got hit with one body shot they could hear in Blackpool .
, fair or unfair , depends how you look at things
Any coach who knows how to read a fight could see he wanted out of there , and Ingle done his job , he pulled him out before he got seriously hurt , simple has that .

Theres a lot of critism on other forums about them taking the fight when they only plan seemed to be do your best , and then we'll stop it , fair or unfair , depends how you look at things ,, If your an avid fan of british boxing or Kells second cousoin from Sheffield , your obviuosly going to say it was a ballsy effort to get in there and reap praise on Kell , then again you probably agree with the judges who had him winning .

But on the other hand if your a American who paid $60 to watch it ,Or English with only a casual interest in boxing , you might feel cheated, and take the attitude Kell won the lottery getting given and paid millions for that fight ... Sort of like being one of the thousands who i Tysons hey day , who used to say ,, I'd get in with Tyson for 2 million quid ,, let him hoit me twice and go to sleep well worth it .

Myself i think everyone was a winner , Kell got a nice payday ,,, GGG got a nice payday , and some more notoriety , Hearn got a nice payday , and above all his PPV which he needs to keep the bosses happy ,, I got to see an entertaining couple of rnds on u tube BECAUSE I WILL NOT BUY NON COMPETETIVE FIGHTS .

[Tuan_Jim]

don't twist my words, you know what I mean, I didn't say weight means nothing, its the kind of weight your carrying and how you got it that matters, I cant fecking believe you've been dredging through my posts from years ago, right little columbo aren't we ? you make out like ive been on an anti-brook mission or somethimg when in fact I made a comment 4 years ago and then one the other day, I take it you have never levelled any kind of criticism toward a boxer then ? oh and play nice Doofus ya clever little sod

You seem rattled Jason. I would have expected you of all people to remain poker faced at all times.

freaky.

Some very spooky jingos here on the British boxing forum. Every time you critique a boxer you run the risk of some loose psycho sifting through your posts hoping to get your name or some autobiography, or having them make a record of your statement and recycling it literally years after you wrote it. Vaginal behaviour, to say the least.