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Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:32
by handsofstone
davie wrote:veriton wrote:wesshaw1985 wrote:
its the same with most of W@rrens fighters, there is no personality. Nobody knows anything about them so they are hard to relate to.
For starters why is W@rren not dedicating a half hour documentary to him for the channel and his youtube page? His past, where he grew up, what he likes etc.
Flanagan is a Man City fan, why is he not being paraded on the pitch before title defences? Why is W@rren not handing out flyers to fans on match day? Its 40 or so thousand mancunians in one spot surely he can grab a couple of thousand for his show to support one of there own.
I see building a profile as a 50/50 thing some blames on W@rren but some blame also has to go on Terrys shoulders aswell...
have you heard flanagan speak? it's hard to see him carving a career out on the after dinner circuit when he hangs the gloves up. love him as a boxer but some people just dont/cant express themselves verbally. maybe im wrong and he's at home reading dostoevsky every night but he sounds like he is as thick as pig sh1t and trying to make documentaries out of him will only draw focus to that.
Hearn manages to promote Scott "2 planks" Quigg no bother

Finally a nickname for Quigg, those in favour say "Aye"
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:38
by boxingknockout
handsofstone wrote:davie wrote:veriton wrote:
have you heard flanagan speak? it's hard to see him carving a career out on the after dinner circuit when he hangs the gloves up. love him as a boxer but some people just dont/cant express themselves verbally. maybe im wrong and he's at home reading dostoevsky every night but he sounds like he is as thick as pig sh1t and trying to make documentaries out of him will only draw focus to that.
Hearn manages to promote Scott "2 planks" Quigg no bother

Finally a nickname for Quigg, those in favour say "Aye"
Good nickname,but I feel like an adult pulling wings off flies by taking the piss out of him...
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:42
by handsofstone
boxingknockout wrote:handsofstone wrote:davie wrote:
Hearn manages to promote Scott "2 planks" Quigg no bother

Finally a nickname for Quigg, those in favour say "Aye"
Good nickname,but I feel like an adult pulling wings off flies by taking the piss out of him...

Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:00
by expe
davie wrote:veriton wrote:wesshaw1985 wrote:
its the same with most of W@rrens fighters, there is no personality. Nobody knows anything about them so they are hard to relate to.
For starters why is W@rren not dedicating a half hour documentary to him for the channel and his youtube page? His past, where he grew up, what he likes etc.
Flanagan is a Man City fan, why is he not being paraded on the pitch before title defences? Why is W@rren not handing out flyers to fans on match day? Its 40 or so thousand mancunians in one spot surely he can grab a couple of thousand for his show to support one of there own.
I see building a profile as a 50/50 thing some blames on W@rren but some blame also has to go on Terrys shoulders aswell...
have you heard flanagan speak? it's hard to see him carving a career out on the after dinner circuit when he hangs the gloves up. love him as a boxer but some people just dont/cant express themselves verbally. maybe im wrong and he's at home reading dostoevsky every night but he sounds like he is as thick as pig sh1t and trying to make documentaries out of him will only draw focus to that.
Hearn manages to promote Scott "2 planks" Quigg no bother
He doesn't though. He fought shite opponents on undercards mostly bar a couple of 'defences' in Manchester in front of 4k while they begged for the Frampton fight. They got that, in his own backyard his fans were outnumbered at least 2 to 1, he got beat and is now back to the undercards again while they beg for a Frampton rematch.
Flanagan has followed a very similar path, except that Gallagher and Hearn don't want him anywhere near Crolla, whereas Shane and Barry were happy to put Frampton in with Quigg because they were confident he would win the fight.
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:02
by expe
gilgamesh wrote:handsofstone wrote:Flanagan was poor again tonight,Cruz brought nothing to the table but Terry should've got him out of there sooner, he was a midget,there was no snap on Flanagan's punches and he was easy to tie up,still at least he finally got the KO, Cruz was dire
Langford/Sheedy was close I had it a draw,Langford's work rate seeing him through, he did fade badly though I thought,especially seeing as he's known for his engine, he looked the more relieved to hear the final bell,Sheedy should be kicking himself for not getting to work sooner,far too many times he went walkabout, if he'd started a round or 2 earlier he might have got Langford out of there
Flanagan is only ranked in the Top 10 because he got a title handed to him. If not for that he wouldn't even be Top 10, and he won't be Top 10 as soon as he fights an actual Top 10 contender and gets his ass handed to him.
He fought a top 10 contender last year and blasted him out in two rounds, he's more than capable of beating anyone in the division if he performs like that, even on his recent performances there's only 3 or 4 that would beat him.
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 07:31
by afcmarshall
davie wrote:wesshaw1985 wrote:rd350lc wrote:
Looking at his interview after he seems happy with this standard of fight
I'd have thought if he wasn't happy with the low key opposition and pay he'd be kicking up a bit by now .
You've only got to look at how many people have posted on this thread tonight , it makes you wonder if the public really are that bothered about him.
Don't think he'll ever be a big draw ,which is a shame and I think has more to do with how he's promoted .
its the same with most of W@rrens fighters, there is no personality. Nobody knows anything about them so they are hard to relate to.
For starters why is W@rren not dedicating a half hour documentary to him for the channel and his youtube page? His past, where he grew up, what he likes etc.
Flanagan is a Man City fan, why is he not being paraded on the pitch before title defences? Why is W@rren not handing out flyers to fans on match day? Its 40 or so thousand mancunians in one spot surely he can grab a couple of thousand for his show to support one of there own.
I see building a profile as a 50/50 thing some blames on W@rren but some blame also has to go on Terrys shoulders aswell...
He could learn from Hearn/matchroom/skys hype factory.
They are a platform for all sports yet they find space on the schedule for documentaries, the gloves are off type things, weigh ins on SSN.
Warren has a dedicated boxing channel. Ok it's not accessible to all fans but there's surely more ge can do to push a guy that's now an established champion
More people know about Luke Campbell, Britains 3rd best lightweight, at best
I never get why more press conferences weigh ins ect aren't shown live on allegedly
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 12:27
by wesshaw1985
afcmarshall wrote:davie wrote:wesshaw1985 wrote:
its the same with most of W@rrens fighters, there is no personality. Nobody knows anything about them so they are hard to relate to.
For starters why is W@rren not dedicating a half hour documentary to him for the channel and his youtube page? His past, where he grew up, what he likes etc.
Flanagan is a Man City fan, why is he not being paraded on the pitch before title defences? Why is W@rren not handing out flyers to fans on match day? Its 40 or so thousand mancunians in one spot surely he can grab a couple of thousand for his show to support one of there own.
I see building a profile as a 50/50 thing some blames on W@rren but some blame also has to go on Terrys shoulders aswell...
He could learn from Hearn/matchroom/skys hype factory.
They are a platform for all sports yet they find space on the schedule for documentaries, the gloves are off type things, weigh ins on SSN.
Warren has a dedicated boxing channel. Ok it's not accessible to all fans but there's surely more ge can do to push a guy that's now an established champion
More people know about Luke Campbell, Britains 3rd best lightweight, at best
I never get why more press conferences weigh ins ect aren't shown live on allegedly
baffling isn't it? documentarys, build up, face-offs, press conferences, weigh ins, review shows. They should cover the whole lot. Its only 1 or 2 cameras on a cheap set.
they pay the IFL lads to do stuff they could do in house...
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 12:31
by Stuffs
Flanagan does get to City matches.
I recall a League Cup game last season (or maybe the year before) v Everton they had him and Bellew on the sideline to discuss the game, and Flanagan v someone that got probably cancelled.
Re: Round-By-Round - Terry Flanagan (c) vs. Orlando Cruz - November 26th 2016
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 13:45
by wesshaw1985
Stuffs wrote:Flanagan does get to City matches.
I recall a League Cup game last season (or maybe the year before) v Everton they had him and Bellew on the sideline to discuss the game, and Flanagan v someone that got probably cancelled.
haha typical B0xNati0n luck.
Well hopefully he gets there more.
Get a van out with his picture on the side, 3/4 good looking girls handing out flyers for his next fight to fans heading to the ground, Terry taking pictures with fans and the belt with his City shirt on.
2 hours before a game could get him in touch with thousands of fans one way or another.
The Hatton fans of yesteryear are still there, they just need someone to get behind...