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Badhusker wrote:I wish Kovalev would do whatever it takes to get the rematch so we can all see it. Maybe it will end up a trilogy? It looks like Ward has limited choices; rematch, Stevenson fight, retire, or move up. If he fights and beats Stevenson, it may make the rematch even bigger, so that would be my guess.

Badhusker wrote:I wish Kovalev would do whatever it takes to get the rematch so we can all see it. Maybe it will end up a trilogy? It looks like Ward has limited choices; rematch, Stevenson fight, retire, or move up. If he fights and beats Stevenson, it may make the rematch even bigger, so that would be my guess.

Riddick Blowe wrote:So nobody has actually talked about the terms of this rematch clause yet. How long does ward have before he agrees to the terms of the rematch or gets stripped?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In a forum that can be full of nonsense I think faulting kovalev for not telling ward he won and getting on his knees to beg him to honor a contract has to be all time dumb worthy.

Kalan wrote:Figuratively they want him to do that... They want him to say the fight could have gone either way and Ward won it legitimately... That’s total BS and Kovalev is not going to do that in a million years... Ward had to STFU and do the rematch... It’s a fight everyone wants to see.

Kalan wrote:Figuratively they want him to do that... They want him to say the fight could have gone either way and Ward won it legitimately... That’s total BS and Kovalev is not going to do that in a million years... Ward had to STFU and do the rematch... It’s a fight everyone wants to see.

Badhusker wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In a forum that can be full of nonsense I think faulting kovalev for not telling ward he won and getting on his knees to beg him to honor a contract has to be all time dumb worthy.

Unless I missed something, no one has faulted Kovalev for not getting on his knees.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:- Gonna make it simple so even the resident village idiots can follow it. Of course those with political agendas don't care about the rules.

Per ABC Unified rules of judging:

Judges are to score each round using the following scoring criteria:

1. Clean punching (power versus quantity).

2. Effective aggressiveness.

3. Ring generalship.

4. Defense.

Clearly in much of the US, judges ignore the first, most important directive to prop up select fighters, ie Son of Plop who has to be the poorest P4Per since Boner graced Ring ratings. I would rank him as #1 Plop4Plop however. All he ever did is run his noggin under Kov's left armpit and land a few sissy body punches for the Kellermans to moan in ecstasy. This guy ducked huge money fights with undefeated then P4Per Lucien Bute and the Froch rematch in England to fight the likes of Brand who could only command $30,000 purse. He won't be missed.

Badhusker wrote:

lazboy wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

I am talking about reality. Is that so hard to understand? I used the May/Pac example before, and Pac blew a rematch by citing a shoulder excuse, and not admitting he lost. Yes, a diva like Floyd, Ward, etc, needs to be fed, like it or not. It may seem stupid to you if you are a big fan of Kovalev, but it is pretty simple. Ward can retire or move up. Already beat Kovalev. His legacy years from now if they don't rematch will tell the story. To some boxers legacy is more important than money. The "L" may haunt Kovalev and his closest fans for years to come.

I don't know what your reality is. If you think that Mayweather pulled the plug on a rematch with Pac because Pac cited a shoulder injury and didn't admit defeat than thats seriously simple thinking. Why would Mayweather care what Pac thought? Maidana said he won their first fight (which he didn't) and was granted a rematch and then said he won the second fight.

Why should Ward care what Kovalev thinks? Why is Ward concerned Kovalev is "making himself look bad" to the public by not admitting defeat. I think he's insecure. He wants Kovalev to admit defeat then he will retire and he will always be able to say, even Kovalev said I won. Ward is an exploiter. His actual boxing styles exploits traditional boxing. Holding and hitting is the prime example.

It makes no sense for Kovalev to "admit defeat". It will make no difference to whether there's an rematch on not. Bigger things are in play, no some school yard manipulation by Ward.

Floyd publicly said he would give Pacquiao a rematch but changed his mind after hearing the excuses. Here is a quote from ESPN:

"Did I text Stephen A. Smith and say I will fight him again? Yeah, but I change my mind. At this particular time, no, because he's a sore loser and he's a coward," Mayweather told Showtime in an interview taped this week that will air Saturday night (9 ET) during the network's replay of last Saturday night's megafight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

"If you lost, accept the loss and say, 'Mayweather, you were the better fighter,'" Mayweather continued.

My seriously simple thinking is right on the money. I try to base my reality on facts, and not make stuff up. My opinion may seem off base, but whatever.
I agree the May/Pac fight score-wise is a poor comparison. I understand if Kovalev thinks he won the fight he probably isn't going to give props to Ward. I didn't think it was a total domination like quite a few here do, so in my opinion the sportsmanlike thing to do would be to at least congratulate the winner.