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amwsnw wrote:

Lairdy wrote:

buster007 wrote:oh boy, now the mundine huggers r turning on each other, pmsl.

shows how hurt that they r of seeing their hero get smashed by a guy who was severely concussed for the whole fight, lol.

I can see why they r embarrassed alright.

You're embarrassing yourself champ. There are 6 people in the world, from what I've seen, that believe Fanny won that fight. You're one of them.

You don't need to vigorously defend him. Because unless they have the decision overturned, Fanny will have that "W" (albeit clearly paid for) in his column.

Fanny knows in his heart that he got well beaten by a boxer 6kg lighter than him in a ring with dimensions that suited his style. Let's be honest here, he knew that he just had to survive for the victory.

I'm sure he would really appreciate that you're still saying that he "won"... But at the same time, he would probably look at you as a massive nut hugger.

Be your own man champ.

Lairdy this is not a robbery. The fight was extremely close. I watched with others who were no doubt going for Green and immediately after thought Mundine edged it or it was a draw. After watching it again by myself i have Green by 2 points. Regardless of how the decision was reached (and I appreciate all of the points Choc is raising) i dont think its a travesty that Danny got the decision.....and I am not a Fanny fan or a choc nuthugger.

In close fights, on first watch most tend to side with the guy finishing stronger, having already forgotten how far ahead the other guy was from winning the majority of the earlier rounds.

Lairdy wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

When and was the money involved anywhere near what this fight generated because if it wasn't you should just keep your stupit comment to ya self because its silly when it was worth thousand's not million's of dollar's and you try to talk crap and say it wasn't worst robbery's now now what did I say that got up your nose was it the political view that I mentioned or was it religion/race word I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BIGGEST ROBBERY IN A MILLION DOLLAR FIGHT IN AUSSIE BOXING HISTORY.................NOW DA GOOSE WHO'S RIGHT SHOW ME THE FIGHT THAT BACKS UP YOUR CLAIM THAT I EXAGGERATING
AND PLEASE IF YOU CAN JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT UPSET YOU WITH MY POST WAS THE BIT ABOUT RACE/RELIGION OR WAS IT THE POLITICAL VIEW..............PS I DON'T REALLY GIVE A F.CK ANYMORE

There have been much worse decisions than this Clive. World wide Kovalev-Ward I didn't mention race or politics sorry to make you post in caps.

Kovalev vs Ward was a very, very close fight. I gave Ward the edge. I had Mundine winning by 4 rounds.

We will agree to disagree 4 rounds win to Mundine is a stretch IMO though I only watched a poor copy on you-tube(I think the same one Like a Boss has put up in another thread). Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

The refereeing and scoring in this fight was abysmal.

After Mundine was awarded a close fight against Geale in 2009 many thought Geale had won the fight. Clearly Geale did too because he lodged a protest with the IBO against the result.

The IBO reviewed the fight and had 3 independent judges watch the fight minus the sound. All three judges scored it for Geale and as a result the IBO ordered a rematch. History shows Mundine binned the IBO belt in preference to fighting Geale again.

Even if Mundine's appeal in the Green fight was upheld, what are they going to do, order two guys who have already said it was their last fight to fight again?

DA GOOSE wrote:

Lairdy wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: There have been much worse decisions than this Clive. World wide Kovalev-Ward I didn't mention race or politics sorry to make you post in caps.

Kovalev vs Ward was a very, very close fight. I gave Ward the edge. I had Mundine winning by 4 rounds.

We will agree to disagree 4 rounds win to Mundine is a stretch IMO though I only watched a poor copy on you-tube(I think the same one Like a Boss has put up in another thread). Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

The refereeing and scoring in this fight was abysmal.

People will say there's bias there on my part. But that's the only fight Choc has lost that was a poor decision imo. The first Geale fight could've gone either way. I gave that to Choc because of the knockdown in round 2.

Even if you were to take 2 rounds from my scoring, Choc wins well. This judging but. To call it a draw was a bad call. Any score favouring Green is simply wrong.

bogan whisperer wrote:

AntonS wrote:BTW, lovers, haters or whatever, FYI the fight was never intended to be anything but "International" contest over 10x3, and both teams requested International officials be allowed to officiate, which under ANBF S.A. rules is allowed, whereupon they themselves selected them.
At short notice, they approached ANBF Ltd to sanction Green's title defence, which was approved, albeit title was then never on the line, given agreed 83kgs limit, which supposedly ANBF Ltd was unaware such agreement existed.....so it claims
Naturally, at that stage it was too late to ditch Yank officials & therefore they officiated OZ title.
WTF is Mundine now crapping on & on with all the crap = why, why, were, were they, blah blah blah??

BOTH teams requested International officials, yet Mundine now complaining to the Australian National Boxing Federation because the referee didn't have an ANBF emblem on his shirt

Mundine also pressing the barrow as to whether all officials were financial with the ANBF

Mundine's propensity to complain about anything and everything is part of his makeup. Mundine has never been one to accept the decision of officialdom unless it suits him and is now absolutely desperate. Going as far as to question the size of the ring used in his protest

Not complaining ropes were too tight is touch unusual

Like a Boss wrote:After Mundine was awarded a close fight against Geale in 2009 many thought Geale had won the fight. Clearly Geale did too because he lodged a protest with the IBO against the result.

The IBO reviewed the fight and had 3 independent judges watch the fight minus the sound. All three judges scored it for Geale and as a result the IBO ordered a rematch. History shows Mundine binned the IBO belt in preference to fighting Geale again.

Even if Mundine's appeal in the Green fight was upheld, what are they going to do, order two guys who have already said it was their last fight to fight again?

Change the result to no contest.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:After Mundine was awarded a close fight against Geale in 2009 many thought Geale had won the fight. Clearly Geale did too because he lodged a protest with the IBO against the result.

The IBO reviewed the fight and had 3 independent judges watch the fight minus the sound. All three judges scored it for Geale and as a result the IBO ordered a rematch. History shows Mundine binned the IBO belt in preference to fighting Geale again.

Even if Mundine's appeal in the Green fight was upheld, what are they going to do, order two guys who have already said it was their last fight to fight again?

Change the result to no contest.

3 independent judges all scored Mundine vs Geale for Geale in the appeal afterward and the result still reads Mundine SD 12.

Why are you are making such a big deal out of it anyway? You thought Green won.

Lairdy wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

Lairdy wrote:Kovalev vs Ward was a very, very close fight. I gave Ward the edge. I had Mundine winning by 4 rounds.

We will agree to disagree 4 rounds win to Mundine is a stretch IMO though I only watched a poor copy on you-tube(I think the same one Like a Boss has put up in another thread). Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

The refereeing and scoring in this fight was abysmal.

People will say there's bias there on my part. But that's the only fight Choc has lost that was a poor decision imo. The first Geale fight could've gone either way. I gave that to Choc because of the knockdown in round 2.

Even if you were to take 2 rounds from my scoring, Choc wins well. This judging but. To call it a draw was a bad call. Any score favouring Green is simply wrong.

If you think a draw is a "bad call" you are clearly judging with great bias towards choc. Im not saying you have to agree with it, but its hardly a bad call.

amwsnw wrote:

Lairdy wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: We will agree to disagree 4 rounds win to Mundine is a stretch IMO though I only watched a poor copy on you-tube(I think the same one Like a Boss has put up in another thread). Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

The refereeing and scoring in this fight was abysmal.

People will say there's bias there on my part. But that's the only fight Choc has lost that was a poor decision imo. The first Geale fight could've gone either way. I gave that to Choc because of the knockdown in round 2.

Even if you were to take 2 rounds from my scoring, Choc wins well. This judging but. To call it a draw was a bad call. Any score favouring Green is simply wrong.

If you think a draw is a "bad call" you are clearly judging with great bias towards choc. Im not saying you have to agree with it, but its hardly a bad call.

I give the close rounds to the fighter that lands the crisper punches. I gave the fight to Mundine for the same reason i gave him the Rabchenko fight (which was much closer).

Having a look at the ANBF criteria for scoring even, and it's hard to believe ANYONE in their right mind could score that fight a draw or to Green.

amwsnw wrote:

Lairdy wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: We will agree to disagree 4 rounds win to Mundine is a stretch IMO though I only watched a poor copy on you-tube(I think the same one Like a Boss has put up in another thread). Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

The refereeing and scoring in this fight was abysmal.

People will say there's bias there on my part. But that's the only fight Choc has lost that was a poor decision imo. The first Geale fight could've gone either way. I gave that to Choc because of the knockdown in round 2.

Even if you were to take 2 rounds from my scoring, Choc wins well. This judging but. To call it a draw was a bad call. Any score favouring Green is simply wrong.

If you think a draw is a "bad call" you are clearly judging with great bias towards choc. Im not saying you have to agree with it, but its hardly a bad call.

Mundine winning the last couple of rounds seems to have clouded the judgement of some.

I had Green well ahead at the half way point. The three judges had it the same way. So Mundine was playing catch up the whole second half of the fight.

Not sure how anyone can be surprised one judge had it even. He basically had Green winning the first half of the fight and Mundine winning the second half and that was the trend of the fight.

That was how Jeff Horn saw it too:

“It was a close fight. Green dominated the first half even though he’d taken that heavy shot from the foul punch in round one. Mundine came home strong but there were two or three close rounds that could have gone either way.’’

Aussie Olympic great Athol McQueen who decked the great Joe Frazier at the Tokyo Olympics was more certain about the outcome:

“Mundine has to be kidding. Danny Green won the fight. He dominated it. He swept the first five rounds for starters.’’

“I want greatness. It’s about my legacy…”

An interesting read about things going on behind Mundine's scenes, but it is time him and Green sauntered off towards the setting sun:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 012f9a9cc4

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:After Mundine was awarded a close fight against Geale in 2009 many thought Geale had won the fight. Clearly Geale did too because he lodged a protest with the IBO against the result.

The IBO reviewed the fight and had 3 independent judges watch the fight minus the sound. All three judges scored it for Geale and as a result the IBO ordered a rematch. History shows Mundine binned the IBO belt in preference to fighting Geale again.

Even if Mundine's appeal in the Green fight was upheld, what are they going to do, order two guys who have already said it was their last fight to fight again?

Change the result to no contest.

3 independent judges all scored Mundine vs Geale for Geale in the appeal afterward and the result still reads Mundine SD 12.

Why are you are making such a big deal out of it anyway? You thought Green won.

Im not I don't care but Mundine does ( as illustrated by him crying at the end of the fight ) it obviously hurts him to have L on his record he feels he shouldn't so if the fight is ruled a NC the result is changed.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: Change the result to no contest.

3 independent judges all scored Mundine vs Geale for Geale in the appeal afterward and the result still reads Mundine SD 12.

Why are you are making such a big deal out of it anyway? You thought Green won.

Im not I don't care but Mundine does ( as illustrated by him crying at the end of the fight ) it obviously hurts him to have L on his record he feels he shouldn't so if the fight is ruled a NC the result is changed.

You felt Green won the fight and yet you are sympathetic to the idea of Mundine overturning the result? Makes no sense.

Rematch would be good

AntonS wrote:Rematch would be good

Uluru?

Like a Boss wrote:

AntonS wrote:Rematch would be good

Uluru?

Nah! Neutral location like Nth Korea

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
3 independent judges all scored Mundine vs Geale for Geale in the appeal afterward and the result still reads Mundine SD 12.

Why are you are making such a big deal out of it anyway? You thought Green won.

Im not I don't care but Mundine does ( as illustrated by him crying at the end of the fight ) it obviously hurts him to have L on his record he feels he shouldn't so if the fight is ruled a NC the result is changed.

You felt Green won the fight and yet you are sympathetic to the idea of Mundine overturning the result? Makes no sense.

No Im not you said ''both fighters are retired now so there won't be a rematch so why does Mundine care?'' and I answered it.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: Im not I don't care but Mundine does ( as illustrated by him crying at the end of the fight ) it obviously hurts him to have L on his record he feels he shouldn't so if the fight is ruled a NC the result is changed.

You felt Green won the fight and yet you are sympathetic to the idea of Mundine overturning the result? Makes no sense.

No Im not you said ''both fighters are retired now so there won't be a rematch so why does Mundine care?'' and I answered it.

Mundine hasn't officially retired, he said he will be still training in case something of interest pops up

Like WBS (World Boxing Society) belt??

The moment of impact >>>



It is plain to see the referee has already turned Green away from Mundine - look at the placement of the referee's arm inside Green's, and as a result Green's back is to Mundine when he loads up and hits him from behind.

Does anyone think that Open Scoring may have effected the result differently?
i.e crowd reaction etc

Redback Rasta wrote:The moment of impact >>>



It is plain to see the referee has already turned Green away from Mundine - look at the placement of the referee's arm inside Green's, and as a result Green's back is to Mundine when he loads up and hits him from behind.

Yes the referee made a massive mistake and both fighters paid the price for it.

Redback Rasta wrote:The moment of impact >>>



It is plain to see the referee has already turned Green away from Mundine - look at the placement of the referee's arm inside Green's, and as a result Green's back is to Mundine when he loads up and hits him from behind.

Yes the referee made a massive mistake and both fighters paid the price for it. From memory when he threw the shot Mundine had just ducked out of the headlock and then launched a shot. It wasn't so much the referee turning Green.

p4p1 wrote:

Redback Rasta wrote:The moment of impact >>>



It is plain to see the referee has already turned Green away from Mundine - look at the placement of the referee's arm inside Green's, and as a result Green's back is to Mundine when he loads up and hits him from behind.

Yes the referee made a massive mistake and both fighters paid the price for it. From memory when he threw the shot Mundine had just ducked out of the headlock and then launched a shot. It wasn't so much the referee turning Green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_gAZkEsdKQ