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Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:51
by Andrew
Neil Gee wrote:I remember watching Edward's IBF title shot. He was completely out of his depth that night. No idea how he landed that fight. This looks much more like his level.
Back to my point about matchmaking too often it's just about taking shortcuts to rankings and picking up an easy belt without being testing which means not learning.

They saw Casimero as an easy belt to get. STUPID matchmaking he smashed Reunrong and had fought all over the world in hostile places and still got results.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:52
by ThereByTheGrace
Edwards is winning clearly after 3

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:52
by lefty
Im not watching currently. How long till Burns-Indongo, gents?

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:53
by Boxing Prospect
Naandrew wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:If there isn't much talent in the lower weights in the UK...send them overseas for some bloody high quality sparring!

I've said this for ages. I know you are the lower weight guy but the likes of Edwards even Selby should be going to Japan or Thailand for a solid month.
Exactly, or Mexico, Argentina and the Philippines. They'd learn more in one of those gyms for a month than they would in a year over here. Get them off to the Ohashi, Teiken or Ioka gym and they'd learn so much. Conlan could well do with some time over there too.

Had they done that they'd have been fully aware of the gulf in class between Louis Norman and Casimero

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:54
by ThereByTheGrace
IT wrote:Im not watching currently. How long till Burns-Indongo, gents?
Probably half an hour in rd 4 of edwards fight this will go to pts

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:54
by lefty
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
IT wrote:Im not watching currently. How long till Burns-Indongo, gents?
Probably half an hour in rd 4 of edwards fight this will go to pts
Cheers mate :TU:

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:56
by rossij8
I do enjoy the speed and skills, but at this weight, its all a bit round robin

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 16:59
by Andrew
Boxing Prospect wrote:
Naandrew wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:If there isn't much talent in the lower weights in the UK...send them overseas for some bloody high quality sparring!

I've said this for ages. I know you are the lower weight guy but the likes of Edwards even Selby should be going to Japan or Thailand for a solid month.
Exactly, or Mexico, Argentina and the Philippines. They'd learn more in one of those gyms for a month than they would in a year over here. Get them off to the Ohashi, Teiken or Ioka gym and they'd learn so much. Conlan could well do with some time over there too.

Had they done that they'd have been fully aware of the gulf in class between Louis Norman and Casimero
Don't think they will do the same at super flyweight red hot right now. Chocolatito, Cuadras and Estrada don't have belts !!

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:00
by Neil Gee
Edwards is cruising here.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:01
by dookus
Edwards clearly needs better sparring - he looks good because of his speed advantage, but at a higher level will be clobbered for these defensive lapses.

A bit more power wouldn't hurt either. Well, not him anyway.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:03
by no1man
Is that Anthony yarde on the maxi muscle ads?

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:03
by Andrew
no1man wrote:Is that Anthony yarde on the maxi muscle ads?
Yes :TU:

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:09
by Neil Gee
Hmm...getting tediously one-sided.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:11
by Boxing Prospect
Butcher has a second gear...right?

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:12
by skanksta
Neil Gee wrote:Hmm...getting tediously one-sided.
The only way Butcher has won a round is if a judge gave him one where it was close-ish after losing 5 in a row.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:12
by skanksta
Boxing Prospect wrote:Butcher has a second gear...right?
Doubtful with the weight issues.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:17
by Neil Gee
But Butcher has his best round in 9th

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:22
by ThereByTheGrace
Butcher has been worse than awful. Too slow and outclassed

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:25
by ShadrachSimmo
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Butcher has been worse than awful. Too slow and outclassed
Pretty shocking. Could be the end for him.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:26
by ThereByTheGrace
ShadrachSimmo wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Butcher has been worse than awful. Too slow and outclassed
Pretty shocking. Could be the end for him.
Didnt want to say that. But where do u go after this mate especially at that weight class

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:29
by Neil Gee
I would struggle to give Butcher 2 rounds. Won't argue with a shutout here.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:33
by ShadrachSimmo
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
ShadrachSimmo wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Butcher has been worse than awful. Too slow and outclassed
Pretty shocking. Could be the end for him.
Didnt want to say that. But where do u go after this mate especially at that weight class
It's hard to say. These divisions at this level are a lot more competitive now. Chris Edwards showed it could be done through sheer determination a while back. I hope he can bounce back.

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:33
by handsofstone
I was expecting a close competitive fight but it was anything but, i had Edwards winning every round, Butcher just couldn't get to grips with his speed, it was by far the best ive seen Edwards box, it was a mature performance and he never switched off once, fought at a high pace and was always on his toes shooting out the jabs and hooks, he hasn't got the power but his speed and footwork are dangerous, Butcher for his part was flat from the off, feet were too slow to close the gap and he was very predictable for Edwards by just marching forward, i don't know if it was the weight or Edwards style but he was giving a lesson tonight

I liked Edwards though

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:33
by samwbr
Not keen on Crolla's whistle

Re: Round-By-Round - Ricky Burns (WBA) vs. Julius Indongo (IBF/IBO) - April 15th 2017

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:36
by Neil Gee
Why do I get the feeling that Burns-Crolla is going to be touted if Ricky comes through tonight?