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Re: May-Mac RBR

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x2x wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
x2x wrote:McGreggor could have won it, in fact won it easily, except he lacked one crucial thing - power in his punches, but that's something that cannot be taught.
He has punching power. His technique in Boxing is sh*t.


I think the exact opposite. His boxing ability looked great until he got exhausted but the punches he landed didn't really hurt Mayweather. He needed hurt him with hard punches but he just landed a lot of ineffective punches, especially the ones to the head. He was far ahead in punches thrown and landed in the early part of the fight.
You think his technique looked great? He looked awful!

Any noteworthy boxer tonight would've eaten him alive. Floyd was playing with him letting him hang around.
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x2x wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
x2x wrote:McGreggor could have won it, in fact won it easily, except he lacked one crucial thing - power in his punches, but that's something that cannot be taught.
He has punching power. His technique in Boxing is sh*t.


I think the exact opposite. His boxing ability looked great until he got exhausted but the punches he landed didn't really hurt Mayweather. He needed hurt him with hard punches but he just landed a lot of ineffective punches, especially the ones to the head. He was far ahead in punches thrown and landed in the early part of the fight.
So you really think that if Conor had power,his "great boxing ability" would have ensured an "easy victory"? :o

Seriously!?!? :brick:
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Enlightened-One wrote:
x2x wrote:McGreggor could have won it, in fact won it easily, except he lacked one crucial thing - power in his punches, but that's something that cannot be taught.
I can't believe you wrote that.

I assume you're primarily an MMA fan?

No I am not an MMA fan. Just look at the punch count in the first half of the fight, before McGreggor became exhausted. It wasn't even close, but he couldn't hurt him. His body punches looked good enough but his head punches were nothing. At one point Mayweather even turned his back on McGreggor. A ref can stop the fight if you turn your back! Then McG. got exhausted. Exhaustion will defeat anybody. If he was in better shape and didn't get tired it would have gone to the crooked Las Vegas mafia judges.
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Yeah and if my Aunt had a d*ck she'd be my Uncle.
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Let's be real. McGrgor won rounds because Floyd let him.

Floyd didn't leave first gear, fought completely opposite to how he spent his entire career and still landed around 60-70% of his punches. The fight wasn't close, Mayweather had no respect for McGregor and didn't need to.

I said that McGregor wouldn't have power and he didn't. His inside game was shockingly bad as well.
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gilgamesh wrote:Yeah and if my Aunt had a d*ck she'd be my Uncle.


Yes you can say that about a boxer - if he had a good punch he'd be good, same as your aunt. When I was boxing I was the opposite. I didn't know anything about technique - boring subject, defense and all that - but I could hit harder than the heavyweight champ according to my trainer. Combine me with someone who knew what they were doing and I'd have been dangerous. I coulda been a contenduh, Adrian!

Anyway, tonight was pretty interesting. I thought it was going to be a silly play act exhibition.
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p4p1 wrote:Let's be real. McGrgor won rounds because Floyd let him.

Floyd didn't leave first gear, fought completely opposite to how he spent his entire career and still landed around 60-70% of his punches. The fight wasn't close, Mayweather had no respect for McGregor and didn't need to.

I said that McGregor wouldn't have power and he didn't. His inside game was shockingly bad as well.


Good call then. If he could have kicked out his legs and brought him down his inside game would have been shockingly good. Different sports. And no he couldn't get Mayweather's respect because he couldn't hurt him.
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No opinion on this thread ever shocks me. Floyd wasn't playing in those first 3 rounds. This was McGregor's first ever professional boxing match. He looked a bit unorthodox at times but that piston jab that was snapping Mayweather's head back, isn't too bad a technique. And how about that head movement? Did that look terrible? He didn't sit down on his punches and he through hammer fists. Two techniques ingrained in his muscle memory from years of MMA. How would this fight look if McGregor had 10 years of experience? And 20 professional fights? I don't remember one single person on Earth who said or thought that McGregor would even be competitive, never mind win a few rounds convincingly. The consensus was what...this was a circus? a side show? And there isn't a boxing fan on the planet who didn't think "Oh oh!" after the first 3 rds. And the saving grace was "No worries, he'll gas out, he doesn't have the stamina to go 12 rounds." Far cry from the whitewash a good 99% of boxing fans predicted.
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thomasjkelley wrote: And there isn't a boxing fan on the planet who didn't think "Oh oh!" after the first 3 rds. And the saving grace was "No worries, he'll gas out, he doesn't have the stamina to go 12 rounds." Far cry from the whitewash a good 99% of boxing fans predicted.
You're pretending you can read the minds of the masses, but you can't!

I expressed my thoughts on a round by round basis to this forum in real time and Floyd's strategy was blatantly obvious.

There was never any cause for concern.

McGregor got carried and could have been stopped earlier if Mayweather wanted to.

Floyd allowed the UFC fighter to naively expend all his energy within the first few rounds. To believe the events didn't play out this way would be appallingly dishonest.
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I never really had much doubt that Mayweather would win. He always starts slow and I thought it was very clearly that he was taking it easy early on. At no point did it look to me like McG had stuff that Floyd couldn't deal with, and I think it was a whitewash after 3...
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gilgamesh wrote:Conor did exceptionally well in the fight. I thought he won the first 4 rounds. Floyd started to really turn it up in the 7th, and really started working him over in the 9th and 10th.

Floyd stopped him in the 10th.

Conor looked completely out of gas after the 6th or so.
Really? Absolute max Conor took first 3, on my card first 2, no way he got round 4 too!?

Mcgregor considering he's a boxer on his debut yes did well, but for elite level boxing level was awful, as was Floyd tbh. Floyd carried him early imo. Poor fight
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DrunkenBoxer wrote:If McGregor had better conditioning, he could have won.
And could box
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gilgamesh wrote:
Blodhemn wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Floyd looked like sh*t early, but the way he turned it up I think it was the plan. He was banking on Conor getting tired. Risky strategy, but it worked.
Risky? Conor doesn't even have good stamina in MMA.
For a guy that hasn't scored a knockout in 6 years it's risky to be banking on a KO victory. I don't care who you're fighting.
I think there was minimal risk in all this for Mayweather. Mcgregor clearly many levels below he could pretty much do what he wanted. Look at him walking forward throwing punches, with no concern of what mcgregor could do. He was never in danger of ever letting this fight get away
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Enlightened-One wrote:Floyd toyed with an overmatched ineffective featherfisted opponent.

It was a glorified sparring session, with Floyd smiling and talking to people sat ringside, whilst he was stalking his novice gassed-out clueless opponent "Mexican Style."

Floyd took the easy route and patiently allowed his opponent to gas out... and then casually took his time to close the show.

Mayweather could have stopped McGregor sooner, but he was simply enjoying the final few rounds of his career.

It's interesting to finally know that MMA fighters really aren't "fitter" than boxers, and their striking power is nowhere near comparable to a boxers.

I think that Floyd knew this and took it easy on an opponent that helped add at least $350m to his bank balance.

I guess Mayweather didn't want to obliterate McGregor, so he disposed of Conor in a manner that allowed the UFC fighter to save face.

Conor did really well tonight, but his boxing skills are pretty poor and he was toyed with. I'm not being disrespectful when I say that either.

Floyd could have done far better, but I don't think he really needed to make any effort tonight to win this fight.

It was simply an exhibition and I sincerely believe that every single one of Floyd's sparring partners were far better than Conor McGregor.
I agree with all this except the general fitter comment. If Mayweather suffered a take down in mma and had to grapple, he would be blowing too. Fitness is specific imo
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x2x wrote:McGreggor could have won it, in fact won it easily, except he lacked one crucial thing - power in his punches, but that's something that cannot be taught.
Sorry mate but mcgregor was some way from winning that fight. His technique and ring generalship in boxing is rookie. Mayweather took it easy and carried him early. Can you imagine what spence or Brook would have done to conor
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Re: May-Mac RBR

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Ossyrules wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Conor did exceptionally well in the fight. I thought he won the first 4 rounds. Floyd started to really turn it up in the 7th, and really started working him over in the 9th and 10th.

Floyd stopped him in the 10th.

Conor looked completely out of gas after the 6th or so.
Really? Absolute max Conor took first 3, on my card first 2, no way he got round 4 too!?

Mcgregor considering he's a boxer on his debut yes did well, but for elite level boxing level was awful, as was Floyd tbh. Floyd carried him early imo. Poor fight
I thought he got the 4th. 4th was close. Any close round went to Conor.
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gilgamesh wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Conor did exceptionally well in the fight. I thought he won the first 4 rounds. Floyd started to really turn it up in the 7th, and really started working him over in the 9th and 10th.

Floyd stopped him in the 10th.

Conor looked completely out of gas after the 6th or so.
Really? Absolute max Conor took first 3, on my card first 2, no way he got round 4 too!?

Mcgregor considering he's a boxer on his debut yes did well, but for elite level boxing level was awful, as was Floyd tbh. Floyd carried him early imo. Poor fight
I thought he got the 4th. 4th was close. Any close round went to Conor.
I just rewatched the 4th round. Very convincing round for Floyd. No way can anyone score the 4th for Connor
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tiny_acres wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Really? Absolute max Conor took first 3, on my card first 2, no way he got round 4 too!?

Mcgregor considering he's a boxer on his debut yes did well, but for elite level boxing level was awful, as was Floyd tbh. Floyd carried him early imo. Poor fight
I thought he got the 4th. 4th was close. Any close round went to Conor.
I just rewatched the 4th round. Very convincing round for Floyd. No way can anyone score the 4th for Connor
I'm someone. I scored it for Conor.
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Just frustrating to watch Floyd carry him throughout. Floyd was very flat footed.
Also frustrating was Conor's extremely weak arm punches. He sat down on the uppercut that caught Floyd early and that was about it.
I knew Floyd would do barely anything in the first round but I fully expected him to really turn it up in the second and third with hard, sharp counter right hands, check hooks, and lead right hands. Was Floyd trying to give us our money's worth by carrying Mac into the late rounds?!?! And also make it seem like a legitimate fight? It would have been much more satisfying for Floyd to end it early. But maybe it was sort of satisfying giving the MMA/Conor fanboys some hope with letting Mac win the first few rounds, lol.

Lol at all of the hammer fists.
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Let's be real... Mayweather was shot and/or didn't take this one seriously and/or the drug testing gave us a different version.

McGregor had 20 pounds on him. I don't think Mayweather had enough size and heart left to go toe-to-toe with McGregor early in the fight and do better than 50/50. Had McGregor had more stamina, this would've been an interesting fight.

Mayweather was banking on him getting fatigued and it worked out. Having said that, Floyd from 10-12 years ago would've ended this fight in 4-5 rounds.
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JCS wrote:Let's be real... Mayweather was shot and/or didn't take this one seriously and/or the drug testing gave us a different version.

McGregor had 20 pounds on him. I don't think Mayweather had enough size and heart left to go toe-to-toe with McGregor early in the fight and do better than 50/50. Had McGregor had more stamina, this would've been an interesting fight.

Mayweather was banking on him getting fatigued and it worked out. Having said that, Floyd from 10-12 years ago would've ended this fight in 4-5 rounds.
The most accurate statement of all the Press Conferences

Floyd: "I ain't the fighter I was 20 years, I ain't the fighter I was 10 years ago, hell I ain't even the fighter I was 2 years ago...(Looks at Conor) but I got enough to beat you"
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Re: May-Mac RBR

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gilgamesh wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
I thought he got the 4th. 4th was close. Any close round went to Conor.
I just rewatched the 4th round. Very convincing round for Floyd. No way can anyone score the 4th for Connor
I'm someone. I scored it for Conor.
Not really a point we need to cross swords with but I'm with tiny acres on this one. Don't see how Conor took 4
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Re: May-Mac RBR

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Ossyrules wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
I just rewatched the 4th round. Very convincing round for Floyd. No way can anyone score the 4th for Connor
I'm someone. I scored it for Conor.
Not really a point we need to cross swords with but I'm with tiny acres on this one. Don't see how Conor took 4
For me it was like this. Conor had no business being in there. Any round Floyd didn't win very clearly was a Conor round for me. Didn't wind up mattering anyhow.
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haha not much else needed to be said, was actually an entertaining fight, almost everyone here pretty much knew or expected this outcome and it was a good stoppage.

i hope floyd enjoys his retirement, and for some reason i will miss him.
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boxing_rocks wrote:I am not impressed. Expected more from Floyd than just waiting till his undertrained opponent gasses out.
Completely agree. Mayweather was, quite literally, cr*p. For boxings supposedly TBE, he struggled to get to grips with a 0-0-0 boxer. Even at 40, and retired for 2 years, i expected a lot more from him. Poor performance IMO.
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