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Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 05:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 04:21
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:27
Ilya Muromets wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 22:38


I told you the fix was in had it gone to the judges. Fi!thy sport. I know how they work it. Crooked ref didn't call the clear knockdown in rd 2 or 3 whatecer it was. Filthy boxing. So predictable.
Yes but the ref missed a knockdown later when Stevenson caught him with a great hook and the ropes kept him up..so the missed knockdown calls went both ways.

Getting knocked into the ropes isn't a knockdown.
It is when the ropes is what helped you stay up.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54
by Duran1970
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 04:21
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:27
Ilya Muromets wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 22:38


I told you the fix was in had it gone to the judges. Fi!thy sport. I know how they work it. Crooked ref didn't call the clear knockdown in rd 2 or 3 whatecer it was. Filthy boxing. So predictable.
Yes but the ref missed a knockdown later when Stevenson caught him with a great hook and the ropes kept him up..so the missed knockdown calls went both ways.

Getting knocked into the ropes isn't a knockdown.
If the ropes saves you from going down then yes it's called a knockdown...learn the rules...that refs been shit for years

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 12:57
by gilgamesh
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 04:21
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:27
Yes but the ref missed a knockdown later when Stevenson caught him with a great hook and the ropes kept him up..so the missed knockdown calls went both ways.

Getting knocked into the ropes isn't a knockdown.
If the ropes saves you from going down then yes it's called a knockdown...learn the rules...that refs been poo for years
The worse call was in the 3rd when Gvozdyk CLEARLY dropped Stevenson with a right hand counter flush on the chin, but for whatever reason wasn't credited with a knockdown.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 13:02
by jujigatame
The LHW division is really opening up. I hope we get Alvarez/Gvozdyk which would finally unify the Stevenson and Kovalev lineages. Hell, maybe we can finally get Kovalev/Stevenson now that they're both damaged goods.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 13:04
by gilgamesh
jujigatame wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 13:02 The LHW division is really opening up. I hope we get Alvarez/Gvozdyk which would finally unify the Stevenson and Kovalev lineages. Hell, maybe we can finally get Kovalev/Stevenson now that they're both damaged goods.
Stevenson almost certainly will never fight again. He's in critical condition apparently as a result of last night's fight.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 13:18
by Duran1970
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:57
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 04:21


Getting knocked into the ropes isn't a knockdown.
If the ropes saves you from going down then yes it's called a knockdown...learn the rules...that refs been poo for years
The worse call was in the 3rd when Gvozdyk CLEARLY dropped Stevenson with a right hand counter flush on the chin, but for whatever reason wasn't credited with a knockdown.
I agree...was a fishy "miss" favoring the home fighter..but missed the other one as well...seen so many mistakes by this ref up here and he's still Canada's#1 go to ref.. especially in Quebec.. although I don't think he's responsible for Stevenson s injuries (maybe could've stopped it one shot before the last one but very hard to say) he's a very poor official.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 15:24
by Ilya Muromets
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:57
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 04:21


Getting knocked into the ropes isn't a knockdown.
If the ropes saves you from going down then yes it's called a knockdown...learn the rules...that refs been poo for years
The worse call was in the 3rd when Gvozdyk CLEARLY dropped Stevenson with a right hand counter flush on the chin, but for whatever reason wasn't credited with a knockdown.

Of course. That's the one I was talking about. One of the worst calls ever. Then, of course, the judges were all set to fix the decision. Boxing is so corrupt now that t is almost 100% predictable. In Las Vegas make that 100% even. As for ropes, fighters are always getting banged into ropes and held up by ropes. That's not a knockdown.

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 15:26
by jamamb
a lot of refs dont seem to call knock downs when a guy stay up with the ropes. i guess in part theres the added subjectivity of wether the ropes actually did keep the fighter up, but almost wonder if some have it as a principle thing where they dont see it as a true knockdown?

that 3rd round though....almost wondering if ref hadnt been paying full attention because it happened so fast at the start of the round,....because that was clearly a landed counter right hand that dropped stevenson

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 15:44
by Duran1970
Ilya Muromets wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 15:24
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:57
Duran1970 wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54

If the ropes saves you from going down then yes it's called a knockdown...learn the rules...that refs been poo for years
The worse call was in the 3rd when Gvozdyk CLEARLY dropped Stevenson with a right hand counter flush on the chin, but for whatever reason wasn't credited with a knockdown.

Of course. That's the one I was talking about. One of the worst calls ever. Then, of course, the judges were all set to fix the decision. Boxing is so corrupt now that t is almost 100% predictable. In Las Vegas make that 100% even. As for ropes, fighters are always getting banged into ropes and held up by ropes. That's not a knockdown.
Clearly would've went down if not for the ropes...I don't think your aware of the one I'm talking about..watch the replay

Re: Adonis Stevenson vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - December 1, 2018

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 21:03
by jujigatame
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 13:04
jujigatame wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 13:02 The LHW division is really opening up. I hope we get Alvarez/Gvozdyk which would finally unify the Stevenson and Kovalev lineages. Hell, maybe we can finally get Kovalev/Stevenson now that they're both damaged goods.
Stevenson almost certainly will never fight again. He's in critical condition apparently as a result of last night's fight.
God I had no idea. That's awful.