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Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 11:34
by SeanBrennan
My T Sharp wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 08:24 Herbie Hide vs Mindaugas Kulikauskas
and Hide v Chingangu was a big upset, I watched it on BBC, Hide beat him second time round though

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 11:36
by SeanBrennan
rio wrote: 30 Dec 2024, 22:27 Enzo Mac getting ice by a 7-9 Lee Swaby deserves a mention
great shout, that was on BBC too. Enzo was only 19 iirc, watched it as Lee was well known as a kickboxer before boxing. He did ok at Cruiser and fought for the British title but fully went into journeyman mode at HW, although he did get a win in one of the Prizefighter tournaments.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 11:37
by jameswilson
dookus wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 05:10
jameswilson wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 04:34
My T Sharp wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 08:24 Herbie Hide vs Mindaugas Kulikauskas
Had that not happened then Herbie Hide vs Danny Williams would have happened for the European Union title.
I think this was another accidental headbutt TKO. Why the hell didn't they change that rule decades before
Yeah it was. Looked like someone had taken a knife to Hide’s eyebrow.


I always laugh when I hear Herbie Hide’s name because I remember that famous rolling on the floor moment with Michael Bentt and the first time I saw the footage it had the initial face off for the cameras and it had sound and you could hear the chat between them both. Hide while they were staring each other down said ‘if you were as good as you looked Michael, you’d be knocking Tyson out, but your not.’

For some reason I’ve always found that line hilarious, I don’t know why.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 13:05
by SeanBrennan
jameswilson wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:37
dookus wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 05:10
jameswilson wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 04:34

Had that not happened then Herbie Hide vs Danny Williams would have happened for the European Union title.
I think this was another accidental headbutt TKO. Why the hell didn't they change that rule decades before
Yeah it was. Looked like someone had taken a knife to Hide’s eyebrow.


I always laugh when I hear Herbie Hide’s name because I remember that famous rolling on the floor moment with Michael Bentt and the first time I saw the footage it had the initial face off for the cameras and it had sound and you could hear the chat between them both. Hide while they were staring each other down said ‘if you were as good as you looked Michael, you’d be knocking Tyson out, but your not.’

For some reason I’ve always found that line hilarious, I don’t know why.
I do wonder what Hide is up to these days - is he still involved in the sport? I always found it funny he was from Norwich (via Nigeria I know) just cos of the Alan Partridge thing. I'd love to know what Hide though of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 13:52
by Deserter
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:05
jameswilson wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:37
dookus wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 05:10
I think this was another accidental headbutt TKO. Why the hell didn't they change that rule decades before
Yeah it was. Looked like someone had taken a knife to Hide’s eyebrow.


I always laugh when I hear Herbie Hide’s name because I remember that famous rolling on the floor moment with Michael Bentt and the first time I saw the footage it had the initial face off for the cameras and it had sound and you could hear the chat between them both. Hide while they were staring each other down said ‘if you were as good as you looked Michael, you’d be knocking Tyson out, but your not.’

For some reason I’ve always found that line hilarious, I don’t know why.
I do wonder what Hide is up to these days - is he still involved in the sport? I always found it funny he was from Norwich (via Nigeria I know) just cos of the Alan Partridge thing. I'd love to know what Hide though of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre.
I don't know about Hide, but his son Harrison is very switched-on and is the co-founder of what I believe is going to be an incredible wellness project called Long Lane.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 16:42
by mickey1975
I think Hide owns or works in a hotel in Nigeria. I've no idea where I heard that. Probably a podcast.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 01 Jan 2025, 05:44
by orbtastic
I remember SKY doing a feature on him and his Norwich mansion. He'd had a nightclub built in it. They showed him dancing by himself, in his empty club with lights/music on. I felt like it was making a sly point.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 01 Jan 2025, 11:51
by SeanBrennan
Deserter wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:52
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:05
jameswilson wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 11:37

Yeah it was. Looked like someone had taken a knife to Hide’s eyebrow.


I always laugh when I hear Herbie Hide’s name because I remember that famous rolling on the floor moment with Michael Bentt and the first time I saw the footage it had the initial face off for the cameras and it had sound and you could hear the chat between them both. Hide while they were staring each other down said ‘if you were as good as you looked Michael, you’d be knocking Tyson out, but your not.’

For some reason I’ve always found that line hilarious, I don’t know why.
I do wonder what Hide is up to these days - is he still involved in the sport? I always found it funny he was from Norwich (via Nigeria I know) just cos of the Alan Partridge thing. I'd love to know what Hide though of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre.
I don't know about Hide, but his son Harrison is very switched-on and is the co-founder of what I believe is going to be an incredible wellness project called Long Lane.
that's interesting Deserter, thanks for sharing. Good luck to his lad.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 11:20
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: 01 Jan 2025, 11:51
Deserter wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:52
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:05

I do wonder what Hide is up to these days - is he still involved in the sport? I always found it funny he was from Norwich (via Nigeria I know) just cos of the Alan Partridge thing. I'd love to know what Hide though of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre.
I don't know about Hide, but his son Harrison is very switched-on and is the co-founder of what I believe is going to be an incredible wellness project called Long Lane.
that's interesting Deserter, thanks for sharing. Good luck to his lad.
https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/23 ... h-norwich/

Wow. Interesting the guy was a trader on Wall Street too.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 16:21
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: 02 Jan 2025, 11:20
SeanBrennan wrote: 01 Jan 2025, 11:51
Deserter wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 13:52
I don't know about Hide, but his son Harrison is very switched-on and is the co-founder of what I believe is going to be an incredible wellness project called Long Lane.
that's interesting Deserter, thanks for sharing. Good luck to his lad.
https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/23 ... h-norwich/

Wow. Interesting the guy was a trader on Wall Street too.
Thanks for sharing that enjoyed reading that. I bet it is so much more personally rewarding focusing on wellbeing than financial markets!

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 03 Jan 2025, 08:41
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: 02 Jan 2025, 16:21
JamesPhilips wrote: 02 Jan 2025, 11:20
SeanBrennan wrote: 01 Jan 2025, 11:51

that's interesting Deserter, thanks for sharing. Good luck to his lad.
https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/23 ... h-norwich/

Wow. Interesting the guy was a trader on Wall Street too.
Thanks for sharing that enjoyed reading that. I bet it is so much more personally rewarding focusing on wellbeing than financial markets!
And less tough than boxing! Which unlike many sons of fighters Harrison didn’t get tempted by!

Who would’ve expected this from Herbie Hides son. Good work

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 03 Jan 2025, 08:55
by SeanBrennan
Definitely.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 03 Jan 2025, 09:24
by si7dog7
Tony Booth v Sheika comes to mind
Omar went on tho to challenge some good champs. So good learning.
Tony Booth is up there with Buckley for me. Of course % wise different. But a class, game guy.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 03 Jan 2025, 10:57
by THEBUTCH
Great shout ! When the mood took him Booth could be such a handful, even for top quality boxers.

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

Posted: 03 Jan 2025, 11:19
by JamesPhilips
David Jaco stopped Razor Ruddock in 7
John Westgarth stopped James Oyebola and an unbeaten Glenn McCrory
Gary Charlton stopping Scott Welch (cut eye)
Carl Gaffney beat unbeaten Keith Ferdinand
Michael Murray had a few - Kevin McBride, Markus Bott, Julius Francis, Derek Williams