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Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 03:38 I don't know why people are saying Ali could have won if he had not got himself DQ'd. Price had him hurt to the body and then almost KO'd him. Its a shame that that idiot cheated Price out of a legitimate KO.

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:14

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 03:38 I don't know why people are saying Ali could have won if he had not got himself DQ'd. Price had him hurt to the body and then almost KO'd him. Its a shame that that idiot cheated Price out of a legitimate KO.

agree, its like they werent actually watching the fight and just automatically run with the 'price trainwreck' stuff....ali was badly hurt and they tumbled because he had no legs and needed to hold on. it was so obvious why the tackle came when it did, right after ali had been shaken to dem boots

and its true price was starting to get hit more , but whats the most hurt or tired he ever looked? i think its been really exaggerated with the trouble ppl are saying he was in. he had won pretty much every round and then badly hurt ali

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:34

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

very likely nervous energy.

Its not just Price it happens too, I was speaking with a pro who said that on occasions they are fit as eff and really looking forward to the fight, then when the first bell goes there seems to be a leakage in the fuel tank. Its almost like the energy has gone before they fight, even though they have trained so hard. Maybe too before the fight on the pads etc in the changing room. Maybe putting too much in before the fight especially if you are due on at a certain time but maybe a hour late to get on.

We all get nervous or excited and once adrenaline starts flowing thats sapping up your energy bank.

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:28

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:14

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 03:38 I don't know why people are saying Ali could have won if he had not got himself DQ'd. Price had him hurt to the body and then almost KO'd him. Its a shame that that idiot cheated Price out of a legitimate KO.

agree, its like they werent actually watching the fight and just automatically run with the 'price trainwreck' stuff....ali was badly hurt and they tumbled because he had no legs and needed to hold on. it was so obvious why the tackle came when it did, right after ali had been shaken to dem boots

and its true price was starting to get hit more , but whats the most hurt or tired he ever looked? i think its been really exaggerated with the trouble ppl are saying he was in. he had won pretty much every round and then badly hurt ali

Price had the fight under control, but the last round ali was hitting him more than any other round. No one knows for sure but that could have been the turning point. I'm very surprised Ali didnt have a game plan knowing that Price tires after 3 or 4 rounds. Ali could have taken the shots like he did until Price started to be less effective. Price is leagues ahead of Ali but Price is very suspect around the chin area, Ali should have used his head rather than his mouth and thought about a game plan to use. He was lacking in experience but im very surprised his team hadnt worked out a strategy for Ali to follow. Its simple really, 'keep hands up for 3 or 4 rounds, let Price tire, and have a go after 4 or 5 rounds.' All Ali needed to do is keep away from a big right hand and frustrate Price by just moving around and trying to get the jab in while avoiding his big right.

Ali obviously thought he was better than he was beating 15 poor rated fighters before. He went into the fight acting like a pudendum and ended the fight like a pudendum too.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 11:46 I'm not saying Price wasn't in control at the time of the DQ, I'm saying he looked terrible against a terrible fighter. He is so very vulnerable in there that I can't say I'd favor him over Browne and/or Allan at this point.

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 11:51

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 11:46 I'm not saying Price wasn't in control at the time of the DQ, I'm saying he looked terrible against a terrible fighter. He is so very vulnerable in there that I can't say I'd favor him over Browne and/or Allan at this point.

I think against Browne its either Price early or Browne after 4 rounds.

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:16 i mean price may well lose to them, but stuff that him fighting either is out of line or shouldnt be allowed is pure madness

you cant just focus on his limitations......look at theres too. browne beat soko by 1 point (price shut him out) and is 40 and maybe not on his drugs anymore, and allen couldnt even beat a clubfighter chinnier then price and his best win is over a guy no better then ali

i would hardly be shocked if for example crude old open browne got caught and stopped

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:25 maybe he will but i dont know why people only focus on his limitations, browne and allen are pretty mediocre . price has never lost to anyone as bad as lenny thomson for example and browne couldve easily lost that decision vs soko and has been knocked out worse then price ever has

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:30

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:25 maybe he will but i dont know why people only focus on his limitations, browne and allen are pretty mediocre . price has never lost to anyone as bad as lenny thomson for example and browne couldve easily lost that decision vs soko and has been knocked out worse then price ever has

It seems to me that Pricey is a faded fighter. He is more vulnerable than ever. I really thought he was going to take out Ali cleanly and earlier than four rounds. He just looked so gassed and unable to turn it up. I do believe he would have won regardless of the DQ, but man, it was painful to watch.

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 14:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:30

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:25 maybe he will but i dont know why people only focus on his limitations, browne and allen are pretty mediocre . price has never lost to anyone as bad as lenny thomson for example and browne couldve easily lost that decision vs soko and has been knocked out worse then price ever has

It seems to me that Pricey is a faded fighter. He is more vulnerable than ever. I really thought he was going to take out Ali cleanly and earlier than four rounds. He just looked so gassed and unable to turn it up. I do believe he would have won regardless of the DQ, but man, it was painful to watch.

I managed to watch this today and i have a feeling that Price was going to get stopped again as he was fading and against the ropes taking shots at times,the same old story again

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:34

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

very likely nervous energy.

Its not just Price it happens too, I was speaking with a pro who said that on occasions they are fit as eff and really looking forward to the fight, then when the first bell goes there seems to be a leakage in the fuel tank. Its almost like the energy has gone before they fight, even though they have trained so hard. Maybe too before the fight on the pads etc in the changing room. Maybe putting too much in before the fight especially if you are due on at a certain time but maybe a hour late to get on.

We all get nervous or excited and once adrenaline starts flowing thats sapping up your energy bank.

rubberneck wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 16:48

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:34

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

very likely nervous energy.

Its not just Price it happens too, I was speaking with a pro who said that on occasions they are fit as eff and really looking forward to the fight, then when the first bell goes there seems to be a leakage in the fuel tank. Its almost like the energy has gone before they fight, even though they have trained so hard. Maybe too before the fight on the pads etc in the changing room. Maybe putting too much in before the fight especially if you are due on at a certain time but maybe a hour late to get on.

We all get nervous or excited and once adrenaline starts flowing thats sapping up your energy bank.

Great reply!
Maybe the nervousness/anxiety is exaggerated now because perhaps he is aware of just how more vulnerable he gets as the rounds go by.
It really is a shame that he seems to have lost the self belief and confidence he had when he was the British champ. He seldom throws the straight right with any conviction anymore, even though that punch would level 95% of heavyweights around.

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 17:16

rubberneck wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 16:48

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:34

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

very likely nervous energy.

Its not just Price it happens too, I was speaking with a pro who said that on occasions they are fit as eff and really looking forward to the fight, then when the first bell goes there seems to be a leakage in the fuel tank. Its almost like the energy has gone before they fight, even though they have trained so hard. Maybe too before the fight on the pads etc in the changing room. Maybe putting too much in before the fight especially if you are due on at a certain time but maybe a hour late to get on.

We all get nervous or excited and once adrenaline starts flowing thats sapping up your energy bank.

Great reply!
Maybe the nervousness/anxiety is exaggerated now because perhaps he is aware of just how more vulnerable he gets as the rounds go by.
It really is a shame that he seems to have lost the self belief and confidence he had when he was the British champ. He seldom throws the straight right with any conviction anymore, even though that punch would level 95% of heavyweights around.

In reality anyone in a street fight lasts around 2 minutes then they are buggered. 2 minutes does not seem a great length of time but in a fight or flight situation your body uses more energy as more blood is flowing to the muscles to make you stronger, to defend your life, in an animalistic way. Ive also come across this in people who have had an epileptic fit. They tend to fit for about 2 or 3 minutes then have to sleep or relax to recover. They have used so much energy in that fit im not an expert on that fact so cannot give an explanation.

rubberneck wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 18:14

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 17:16

rubberneck wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 16:48

MasterG wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 10:34

rubberneck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 16:04

rhino222 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 13:00 kash had price going a bit in the previous round too, he was just coming into the fight, as planned, as price started to gas.

Any idea why Price gasses so quickly? He was blowing by the third round and was hardly fighting at a brisk pace. It appeared that he was on the point of unravelling.
Ali will be kicking himself for losing his head like that.

very likely nervous energy.

Its not just Price it happens too, I was speaking with a pro who said that on occasions they are fit as eff and really looking forward to the fight, then when the first bell goes there seems to be a leakage in the fuel tank. Its almost like the energy has gone before they fight, even though they have trained so hard. Maybe too before the fight on the pads etc in the changing room. Maybe putting too much in before the fight especially if you are due on at a certain time but maybe a hour late to get on.

We all get nervous or excited and once adrenaline starts flowing thats sapping up your energy bank.

Great reply!
Maybe the nervousness/anxiety is exaggerated now because perhaps he is aware of just how more vulnerable he gets as the rounds go by.
It really is a shame that he seems to have lost the self belief and confidence he had when he was the British champ. He seldom throws the straight right with any conviction anymore, even though that punch would level 95% of heavyweights around.

In reality anyone in a street fight lasts around 2 minutes then they are buggered. 2 minutes does not seem a great length of time but in a fight or flight situation your body uses more energy as more blood is flowing to the muscles to make you stronger, to defend your life, in an animalistic way. Ive also come across this in people who have had an epileptic fit. They tend to fit for about 2 or 3 minutes then have to sleep or relax to recover. They have used so much energy in that fit im not an expert on that fact so cannot give an explanation.

When I boxed amateur (admittedly briefly) I found that no matter how fit I was I would gas in sparring after only the first round. However in actual bouts this didn’t happen. I was always more nervous for sparring than for bouts. I must be an oddball.

jamamb wrote: ↑31 Mar 2019, 23:15 ya, dave allen is such a murderous puncher that he couldnt even drop lenroy 'fine china' thomas. price has actually never lost to anyone as bad as that!

browne looked just as bad vs soko as price did vs ali, hes open and crude and could be caught . hes like 40 and got iced worse then price ever has. maybe no good without loads of drugs

im not sure why your talking up browne and allen like they are way better then they are. neither has been beating anyone at prices level and allen even lost to thomas, a glass chin clubfighter

OMG PRICES GONNA DIE!! ITS A TRAINWRECK (that ppl secretly love). NO OVERREACTION. DAVE ALLENS A MONSTER.

#SAVE POOR PRICEY

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:30

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 12:25 maybe he will but i dont know why people only focus on his limitations, browne and allen are pretty mediocre . price has never lost to anyone as bad as lenny thomson for example and browne couldve easily lost that decision vs soko and has been knocked out worse then price ever has

It seems to me that Pricey is a faded fighter. He is more vulnerable than ever. I really thought he was going to take out Ali cleanly and earlier than four rounds. He just looked so gassed and unable to turn it up. I do believe he would have won regardless of the DQ, but man, it was painful to watch.