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Shhhh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 18:29 I would prefer andy Ruiz

Not me. Ruiz would get blathered worse than Hunter.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 18:43 Not me. Ruiz would get blathered worse than Hunter.

No he wouldn't.
I'd pick Ruiz all day every day over Hunter

tiny_acres wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 18:44 No he wouldn't.
I'd pick Ruiz all day every day over Hunter

I wouldn't. I think Hunter can outbox and out punch Ruiz.

skanksta wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 17:41 I think everyone is convinced he would...., until he got hit.
15kg weight advantage slams the skill gap shut for me.

15kg difference is significant as you point and it could indeed be a bridge to far for Usyk but I think he has the boxing savvy to avoid the early artillery and turn the weight into a disadvantage for Joshua who is not known for his stamina.

Shhhh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 18:59 Well at least we know ruiz is fit as he just boxed and won by ko

Ruiz is very fun to watch, he moves so well for a 260+lb man!

Rumour going round that it's Ruiz Jr.

MasterG wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 04:56 Rumour going round that it's Ruiz Jr.

hallelujah

Ruiz or Hunter would both be good options. Both would make it interesting fight. Both would loose 9 times out of 10.

I don't think that it will be Ortiz. Not enough time to cycle off.

I really hope it will not be Charr. It could be him.

I wonder if Rivas could be option?

Chisora would be decent short notice opponent. Well known and probably could sell the fight. I am not hating it.

I guess Helenius would take the fight. I hope they don't need to tip that low on the rankings.

ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-26582708

Coco wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 04:28 I think with Fury, he failed a drug test but it never played our. Then because he had time out they just backdated the ban

What I mean is...how certain can they be he won't test positive again? Wilder and AJ too.

Not only could these guys lose and devalue their fights...they can easily test positive and mess it up.

Out of the realistic (seemingly) contenders.

Want - Ortiz
Accept - Ruiz
Don't want - Hunter (way too small).

I know others have put their names in the hat - Joyce, Chisora etc - but I think it will be one of the three above and that's the order I have them in terms of preference.

Will this still be PPV?

Terminator666 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 08:37 Will this still be PPV?

In the UK yes.

Terminator666 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 08:37 Will this still be PPV?

Joshua could fight an obese pensioner with a wooden leg and it would still be PPV

Stuarty wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 10:18 Joshua could fight an obese pensioner with a wooden leg and it would still be PPV

That’s what I was pretty much thinking- but the reality it’s not going to be a ppv worthy contest now ( if it ever was) maybe if they’d got Ortiz but that was never going to happen either

Terminator666 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 10:47 That’s what I was pretty much thinking- but the reality it’s not going to be a ppv worthy contest now ( if it ever was) maybe if they’d got Ortiz but that was never going to happen either

Can't see a lot of hardcore fans shelling out for it considering it'll be on at daft o'clock in the morning. Be interesting to see how it does numbers wise over here. As things stand they only fight I'd pay for if he was fighting in the US would be Wilder or Fury but Fury would probably be over here.

Ortiz' people have said no.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:33 Ortiz' people have said no.

i read they said no to 5m, and asked for 10m, and that hearn is expected to make a counteroffer

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:33 Ortiz' people have said no.

Apparently a counteroffer is expected from Hearn. So it's not over yet. Still can't get over Ortiz turning down $5 million, but this is a better fight with Ortiz.

I’m not as high as some still seem to be on Ortiz but he certainly makes for a bigger name/occasion

Not sure he makes for a better fight. I think Joshua would get him out before round 5

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:37 I’m not as high as some still seem to be on Ortiz but he certainly makes for a bigger name/occasion

Not sure he makes for a better fight. I think Joshua would get him out before round 5

Who makes a better fight outside Fury or Wilder? Or even on who's available for an upcoming date?

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:38 Who makes a better fight outside Fury or Wilder? Or even on who's available for an upcoming date?

I think Whyte, also Povetkin gave Joshua more questions than Ortiz would too. Not saying he should rematch either by the way. He won conclusively both times.

I’m not against Ortiz getting it I just think Joshua beats him easily. Then again, who doesn’t he beat easily! I include at least one of the two you mention as well.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:43 I think Whyte, also Povetkin gave Joshua more questions than Ortiz would too. Not saying he should rematch either by the way. He won conclusively both times.

I’m not against Ortiz getting it I just think Joshua beats him easily. Then again, who doesn’t he beat easily! I include at least one of the two you mention as well.

Oh yeah, AJ wins this fight, but Whyte said no too and has taken absolutely no flack like Ortiz is. No one is mentioning that.

i give ortiz some flack because him and his ppl/fans have gone on endlessly for years about being ducked, its been his whole scthick, and so if he turns down 5m or whatever is offered on top of that he can go f@ck himself. and at least whyte is consistently fighting solid contenders and not the likes of cojanu, kauffman etc....i have more patience for him

I can see this getting shelved , would it sell ok with a grade B opposition ? I don't think so