dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 12:07
elbow punch (it was very unexpected punch that he didn't seen and wasn't ready for)
So he landed a deliberate rabbit punch after the break command and didn't expect retaliation? He shouldn't do professional boxing then.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 13:22
by oogiebe
I wonder what anyone thinks will come of this "discussion."
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 13:25
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 12:41
No. The ref did a poor job. Briedis and his team didn't deserve a DQ. Get over it. Briedis is just better.
maybe. this fight didn't answered this question.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 13:26
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 13:21
So he landed a deliberate rabbit punch after the break command and didn't expect retaliation? He shouldn't do professional boxing then.
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 13:22
I wonder what anyone thinks will come of this "discussion."
I am just curious when dagilechia runs out of tears.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 13:51
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 13:49
I am just curious when dagilechia runs out of tears.
The boy is passionate!
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 16:07
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 13:47
Of course. The assumption is that he is a saint
do you even watch boxing? Briedis was fouling himself, he hold Głowacki's hand, he dodge, Głowacki commited unintentional foul, Briedis commited deliberately one of the most brutal fouls i have ever seen. Stevie Wonder, is that you?
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 17:12
by boxing_rocks
dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 16:07
do you even watch boxing? Briedis was fouling himself, he hold Głowacki's hand, he dodge, Głowacki commited unintentional foul, Briedis commited deliberately one of the most brutal fouls i have ever seen. Stevie Wonder, is that you?
Do you even understand boxing? When Glowaki started throwing his punch, Briedis's head was already turned all the way away. How the hell was that punch unintentional?
Once again, you are completely blind because the Pole was destroyed.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 17:23
by jamamb
how much does 1 foul warrant though? what about then committing a ddt on glowacki, and then picking him up and choke slamming him, then between rounds pissing on him while hes on his stool, then lighting him on fire with his own piss, then lowblowing his charred body into a 10 count. all fair game cus of the first rabbit punch?
i mean, the fight was a 3rd round stoppage with a lot of stuff that went on other then the inital foul sequence. i havent really spent much time on it because i think briedis scored a legit kd to really start the road to the end, , but seems a bit strange to treat the rabbit punch as though it means everything then has gone out the window from there until the end.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:03
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 17:12
Do you even understand boxing? When Glowaki started throwing his punch, Briedis's head was already turned all the way away. How the hell was that punch unintentional?
Once again, you are completely blind because the Pole was destroyed.
no, i am more emotional because Głowacki is a Pole, but my opinion would be same if it was an Eskimo, Chukchi, Jew, Nigerian or Estonian.
This punch was thrown just in fighting fervor, not deliberately. btw, according to your logic, Briedis got what he deserved, he was holding Głowacki's hand and was using wrestling techniques.
Głowacki didn't landed with full power and it was more to the neck rather than back of the head:
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:05
by gilgamesh
Still dude? Your boy lost. Get over it
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:06
by jamamb
glowacki was already going down from the uppercut for the first kd, the shot on the way down was not really worse then what is seen very often when a boarderline shot lands as one guy falls over or bends low. i think that was a totally legit kd for brieidis, and that the uppercut is what really got glow so hurt in the first place and not able to recover well---not the elbow or shot around the head
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:08
by jamamb
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:05
Still dude? Your boy lost. Get over it
tbf, a lot of crazy shit did go down, i can understand his passion even though im not really bothered because i think the uppercut was the big factor
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:09
by boxing_rocks
dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:03
no, i am more emotional because Głowacki is a Pole, but my opinion would be same if it was an Eskimo, Chukchi, Jew, Nigerian or Estonian.
This punch was thrown just in fighting fervor, not deliberately. btw, according to your logic, Briedis got what he deserved, he was holding Głowacki's hand and was using wrestling techniques.
Głowacki didn't landed with full power and it was more to the neck rather than back of the head:
You are blind, both ophtalmologically and mentally but thank you for posting the video. Briedis combination looks great!
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:10
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:09
You are blind, both ophtalmologically and mentally.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:23
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:08
tbf, a lot of crazy poo did go down, i can understand his passion even though im not really bothered because i think the uppercut was the big factor
I mean I'll still mention that I think something was a robbery if it comes up again, but I don't insist on bumping threads on a subject for weeks on end just to keep talking about it.
I'll still mention that I think JLC deserved the decision over Mayweather in their 1st fight when it comes up. I'll still mention that Kovalev was unjustly DQ'd in the 2nd Ward fight when it comes up. But I don't feel the need to constantly harp on these things. I'll mention it when somebody brings it up and states the opposite opinion, but other than that, I move on. The result ultimately is what it is. You can debate it. You can be upset about it. You can voice your disagreement about it. But you can't change it.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:39
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:09
You are blind, both ophtalmologically and mentally but thank you for posting the video. Briedis combination looks great!
especially the rabbit punch on Glowacki's head
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:46
by gilgamesh
dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:39
especially the rabbit punch on Glowacki's head
The elbow was a peach I'll say that. I like both fighters, but if you wanna make a fight dirty don't cry when you get sand in your eyes.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:51
by dagilechia
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:46
The elbow was a peach I'll say that. I like both fighters, but if you wanna make a fight dirty don't cry when you get sand in your eyes.
yeah, that is right, but according to rules, what Głowacki did wasn't enough for DQ, while what Briedis (and his team) did was easily enough to DQ him + what referee did was enough to change the result to NC. i do not understand why people deny that fact. and that in someone's opinion Briedis would win anyway is irrelevant. imo Głowacki won the 1st, then, the elbow had a huge impact on what happened next, that's it. the rematch would be still 50/50 for me, but that's irrelevant too.
i understand the ''you fight dirty - expect your opponent to fight dirty too.'' but Briedis went way too far with his foul(s)
the B-side fighter would be dq'ed for sure.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:54
by gilgamesh
dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:51
yeah, that is right, but according to rules, what Głowacki did wasn't enough for DQ, while what Briedis (and his team) did was easily enough to DQ him + what referee did was enough to change the result to NC. i do not understand why people deny that fact. and that in someone's opinion Briedis would win anyway is irrelevant. imo Głowacki won the 1st, then, the elbow had a huge impact on what happened next, that's it. the rematch would be still 50/50 for me, but that's irrelevant too.
Breidis got a point deducted, and the fight went on, and he f*cking won. That's it.
I agree that if they had a rematch it'd be another close, competitive fight where either man could win, but that's never gonna change the fact that Glowacki didn't win now.
I would imagine if they were gonna overturn the result they would've done it by now. I don't recall a result ever being overturned several weeks after the fact, usually if a result is gonna be changed it's gonna be changed relatively quickly after the fight in question has ended.
Since that hasn't happened. Breidis wins via KO 3 is what you're gonna have to live with. You can always debate, should've been a DQ, should've been a NC, should've been, could've been...blah blah blah...What it IS is a Bredis KO victory.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:59
by dagilechia
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:54
Breidis got a point deducted, and the fight went on, and he f*cking won. That's it.
I agree that if they had a rematch it'd be another close, competitive fight where either man could win, but that's never gonna change the fact that Glowacki didn't win now.
I would imagine if they were gonna overturn the result they would've done it by now. I don't recall a result ever being overturned several weeks after the fact, usually if a result is gonna be changed it's gonna be changed relatively quickly after the fight in question has ended.
Since that hasn't happened. Breidis wins via KO 3 is what you're gonna have to live with. You can always debate, should've been a DQ, should've been a NC, should've been, could've been...blah blah blah...What it IS is a Bredis KO victory.
and Chisora lost to Helenius. most of fans think that it was a scandal and most of fans want rematch, Briedis should fight Dorticos then Głowacki, doesn't matter if he beats the Cuban or not. btw, i agree that Głowacki didn't win now, i'd prefer it to be a NC rather than DQ, i think that Głowacki would prefer that too.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 19:05
by gilgamesh
dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:59
and Chisora lost to Helenius. most of fans think that it was a scandal and most of fans want rematch, Briedis should fight Dorticos then Głowacki, doesn't matter if he beats the Cuban or not. btw, i agree that Głowacki didn't win now, i'd prefer it to be a NC rather than DQ, i think that Głowacki would prefer that too.
Glowacki should've kept it clean then. Maybe he would've given himself the chance not to lose.
I don't know that anybody still wants to see Chisora vs Helenius at this point, but yes people do acknowledge it was a robbery. You can always acknowledge something was unfair. You just can't change it.
That being said. IMO nothing was unfair about Breidis beating Glowacki. It got out of hand, without question, but ultimately one fighter wasn't shown any favoritism that the other wasn't. It was a wild brawl, and Breidis came out ahead in it. I'd love to see them rematch because it was a fun, wild ass fight. So I'm down to see that again for sure.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 19:45
by boxing_rocks
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 18:54
I would imagine if they were gonna overturn the result they would've done it by now. I don't recall a result ever being overturned several weeks after the fact, usually if a result is gonna be changed it's gonna be changed relatively quickly after the fight in question has ended.
Yep, since neither WBC, nor WBO sanctioned the fight, the only party which can declare it a NC is the Latvian Federation, and if they have't done it, they definitely won't. The only party which can declare a rematch is WBSS, but it is highly unlikely that they will do that, as they haven't even been publicly discussing that.
Re: Briedis-Glowacki should be NC, yes or no ?
Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 19:46
by gilgamesh
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019, 19:45
Yep, since neither WBC, nor WBO sanctioned the fight, the only party which can declare it a NC is the Latvian Federation, and if they have't done it, they definitely won't. The only party which can declare a rematch is WBSS, but it is highly unlikely that they will do that, as they haven't even been publicly discussing that.
Not to mention their Tournament is rife with scheduling snafu's, and people wanting to back out as is. They don't need to be holding it up any further.