Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 13 Oct 2019, 10:02
The last fleeting glimpse of brand AJ before he completely disappears up god own arsehole? He came across as someone whose heid is absolutely fucked trying to keep up the marketable image everyone has been telling him to peddle for the last seven years. A bizarre watch


He's obviously taking things seriously. Which is a positive on his part.
Why? Because Ruiz looks fitter than last time? I'd imagine he wants to maximise his speed advantage.stujones wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:48 Well I guess that is one way to stop the rumours that he is enjoying himself and partying.... although off course there are ways to burn off the calories and still party like bejesus.
Boxing is one of those funny sports in which sometimes it isn't a good thing (I say sometimes) to look the part. So many horror stories of "rounded" heavyweights cutting weight but losing something. I do actually fear that Ruiz might be one of those.
I'd certainly be more inclined to go to the bookies for a AJ by KO bet now.
It might adversely affect his own strength, snap and punch resistance. Has he done lost the weight correctly.ewenhay wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:50Why? Because Ruiz looks fitter than last time? I'd imagine he wants to maximise his speed advantage.stujones wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:48 Well I guess that is one way to stop the rumours that he is enjoying himself and partying.... although off course there are ways to burn off the calories and still party like bejesus.
Boxing is one of those funny sports in which sometimes it isn't a good thing (I say sometimes) to look the part. So many horror stories of "rounded" heavyweights cutting weight but losing something. I do actually fear that Ruiz might be one of those.
I'd certainly be more inclined to go to the bookies for a AJ by KO bet now.
This is a lot of what was in my mind when I posted concern on the weight loss. This is more in-depth than I had considered but I find myself nodding at it. I am not saying it is the case, but that it strikes me that it may well be the case.stujones wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 13:19It might adversely affect his own strength, snap and punch resistance. Has he done lost the weight correctly.
I just remember when small heavies tried to cut down the weight it just made them "rubbish" with no snap or authority - Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers being two recent examples. Danny Williams (whilst I disagree with him) was adamant that him cutting resulted in inferior performances - and yes we can remember that he just seemed to lose everything between Skelton 1 and Harrison 2 (where he was 20 lbs lighter) - his punch resistance seem to go with the extra weight loss and he had no snap. Roy Jones post John Ruiz another example. Even the discussion has been on Tyson Fury's last performance - did he cut for the sake of cutting.
I think people forget the first 3 rounds of fight 1. AJ was controlling it and he hurt Ruiz and then got careless. It wasn't a lucky shot but I am not sure AJ will be as careless again.
Fair enough Stu. Good reasoning there.stujones wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 13:19It might adversely affect his own strength, snap and punch resistance. Has he done lost the weight correctly.
I just remember when small heavies tried to cut down the weight it just made them "rubbish" with no snap or authority - Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers being two recent examples. Danny Williams (whilst I disagree with him) was adamant that him cutting resulted in inferior performances - and yes we can remember that he just seemed to lose everything between Skelton 1 and Harrison 2 (where he was 20 lbs lighter) - his punch resistance seem to go with the extra weight loss and he had no snap. Roy Jones post John Ruiz another example. Even the discussion has been on Tyson Fury's last performance - did he cut for the sake of cutting.
I think people forget the first 3 rounds of fight 1. AJ was controlling it and he hurt Ruiz and then got careless. It wasn't a lucky shot but I am not sure AJ will be as careless again.
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I believe that photo is from an ad campaign so don’t read too much into it. It may have been heavily photoshopped etc: defo looks like it has been on his face, or maybe it’s male-up. It’s also posed to make him look slimmer.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:20After:
Apparently Ruiz Jr. is hoping to face AJ around the 254lb mark, which is 14lbs less than what he weighed for their first fight, but this photo suggests that he might already be well below that target weight.
14lbs to a fatso like him is nothing, he carries that sort of weight around in his left tit. He could lose 30 lbs and would still have fat flabbing everywhere. If he was to get truely into shape with no flabby fat, maybe a bit of muscle on display around his trunk, he would be fighting at cruiserweight.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:20 Apologies if this is old news, since I’ve only just seen this, but Andy Ruiz Jr. appears to have lost a lot of weight:![]()
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Apparently Ruiz Jr. is hoping to face AJ around the 254lb mark, which is 14lbs less than what he weighed for their first fight, but this photo suggests that he might already be well below that target weight.![]()
Deceiving photo, baggy black t-shirt and arms up. Still packing some serious fat.ALI wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 00:1214lbs to a fatso like him is nothing, he carries that sort of weight around in his left tit. He could lose 30 lbs and would still have fat flabbing everywhere. If he was to get truely into shape with no flabby fat, maybe a bit of muscle on display around his trunk, he would be fighting at cruiserweight.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 11:20 Apologies if this is old news, since I’ve only just seen this, but Andy Ruiz Jr. appears to have lost a lot of weight:![]()
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Apparently Ruiz Jr. is hoping to face AJ around the 254lb mark, which is 14lbs less than what he weighed for their first fight, but this photo suggests that he might already be well below that target weight.![]()
I read it is a problem with the plane and they are chartering another flight.